Petra, this recipe for hard rolls/ brat buns has been in my To Try file for about a year but I've not yet made it because I hadn't been able to find malt extract. Found it last week & just waiting for a break in the weather for grilling some brats. Maybe what you're looking for?? Semmel Rolls In Sheboygan, if you talk brats, you'll also be talking about the Semmel; a substantial, chewy roll with a delicately crispy crust. The Semmel is a close cousin to the Kaiser, but with a distinctive cleavage across the top. The baked Semmel is large -- about 4 inches in diameter and rises to about 2 inches in height. To make the single brat bun, shape the rolls like a hot dog bun before final rising and baking. The genuine Sheboygan Semmel is baked in a brick oven. In your home oven, your results may vary. A baking stone helps. 4 1/2 cups bread flour (approximate) 1 package dry yeast 1 Tablespoon sugar 1 teaspoon salt 1 1/2 cups hot water (120-130 degrees) 1 teaspoon malt extract 1 egg 1 egg white 1 Tablespoon shortening Rye flour for dusting Measure 3 1/2 cups of flour into a mixing or mixer bowl and add the yeast, sugar, and salt. Stir to blend well. Pour in the warm water and malt extract. Mix for 1 minute with a wooden spoon or mixer flat beater until a smooth but heavy batter forms. Add the egg, egg white, and shortening. Beat together until the mixture is smooth. If with the electric mixer, remove the flat beater and continue with a dough hook. Add flour -- 1/4 cup at a time -- until the dough is a solid but soft mass that can be lifted from the bowl, or left under the dough hook. Knead the dough with a strong push-turn-fold motion for 10 minutes, adding liberal sprinkles of flour if the dough is wet. If in the mixer, the dough will clean the sides of the bowl and form a ball around the dough hook. If, however, it continues to cling to the sides, add sprinkles of flour. Place the dough in a greased bowl, cover tightly with plastic wrap, and set aside to double in bulk, about 1 hour. Uncover the bowl and punch down the dough with your fingers. Cover the bowl again and allow the dough to double in volume again, about 45 minutes. Place the dough on a floured work surface, roll it into a 12-inch long cylinder. With a sharp knife cut 12 pieces from the length (at every inch on the ruler). Shape the pieces under a cupped palm into smooth rounds. Cover and allow to relax for 5 minutes. Flatten each roll with your hand to about 1/2 inch thick. Dust lightly with rye flour. With a length of wooden dowel, a round wooden spoon handle, or a pencil, press a deep vertical indentation into the top of each roll. Press firmly and deeply, almost to the bottom (omit this procedure if shaping rolls into single-brat buns). As each roll is shaped, place it face down on a greased baking sheet. Cover the rolls with a length of wax or parchment paper, and leave them at room temperature to rise -- slightly less than double in size, about 40 minutes. In the meantime, prepare the oven by placing a pan under the middle shelf. Twenty minutes before the bake period preheat the oven to 450 degrees, quite hot. Five minutes before the rolls are to go into the oven, pour 1 cup of hot water in the pan to form steam and provide a moist environment for the rolls. Be certain hot water is in the pan. Uncover the rolls, carefully turn them right side up, brush them with water or spray lightly with an atomizer of water. Place the pan on the middle shelf of the hot oven. Three minutes later lightly spray the interior of the oven -- not directly on the rolls. Midway through the bake period turn the sheet around so that the rolls are exposed equally to temperature variations in the oven. They are done when crispy brown all over, in about 25 minutes. Remove the rolls from the oven. If, after the rolls have cooled, they are not as crisp and crusty as you like, put them back into a hot oven for 10 minutes.

vaccumfreak-- I made it this weekend to try it out. I'm making the 4 loaves for the Girl Scout's Thinking Day on Thurs. Our troop is representing Sweden. I googled and chose this recipe as most of them are braided and I figured this was easier to slice in small samples (they expect over 300 girls!) This is not really sweet at all--I actually threw in another T of sugar for the next few batches. the first batch seemed a little dry as it kneaded, so I threw in an extra T of water (actually I "rinsed" out my measuring cup with the T of water, so it picked up a little milk, a little egg...) It's a nice firm bread, good for toasting--I like it plain or with a little butter. My Swedish friend said it needs lingonberry jam--not something I have in my pantry!

Well, if it wasn't a doctor or nutritionist who put you off beans, please do some more investigation. I saw a warning against black eyed peas, but most people I've read online seem to think that beans are okay for gout even though they have that chemical which I think starts with "p". I've never had chili with lima beans. Are those the dried ones? I can't imagine that fresh would survive a long cook. I love that kind of thing, though not so much the salt and butter. I don't use much of either. So I read something that said that potassium was good for gout, and that lima beans are good for potassium. Vitamin C is also supposed to help. Is the B12 helping with the fatigue? I recently got Bragg nutritional yeast to try because several here said it was great to use as a seasoning and it has added B vitamins. I'm going to try it in vegan snacks. Even though there's not enough sodium to earn a mention on the label, it has an almost salty taste, and also umami. Plus nutritional yeast is supposed to have complete proteins. Maybe something like that would be a good alternative to some of the salt?

It's in the oven...I actually did ONE more substitution...I used whole wheat flour instead of regular flour...(a balance in health to offset the cream cheese, butter and sugar ;) I also ended up using one whole mango and 3 bananas lemon cream cheese frosting...YUMMMY I have a bundt cake recipe that my nephew made recently that was to die for....I'll have to post that one later too. It was a Paula ? (the southern chef lady...recipe) He also made some substitutions and it was yummmmy