when you read ANYTHING ... book.. web... whatever ... look at the experience of the writers ... IMHO ... grenfell is a premier plantswoman ... in britain ... she has never been to my garden ... in my zone.. with my winter ... so i am careful about her suggestions ... way back when.. i had a database going .... all kinds of info ... and one was sun suggestions... 650 entries... hosta ... so i start adding her sun tolerance suggestions... somewhere around the 350th entry.. i realize i am changing all the entries to FULL SUN .... and .. maybe a little late... i start to wonder.. why she grows them all in the sun... and if i do the same.. they burn to a crisp ... so i look at a map ... mid MI is the 45th parallel ... where is london ... from memory ... 60th plus??? if i lay out in the sun in my yard.. i will be as pink as a lobster in an hour in mid summer... if i laid out in London on the same day .. it might take me a week to get a sun burn ... apply such logic to hosta ... then there is their 10 million inches of rain and fog ... and there lack of snow or freeze in winter .. since they are zone 7 ... 8...9... can you really believe they are that much closer to the north pole.. and significant zones higher than all of us .... go figure ... so one must relate the GROWING INFO to where it comes from... know thy source ... in a recent post... in the perennial forum.. a zone 5 person was getting lectured from a z7 person... how easy it is to winter over roses ... trust me... zones matter ... do you see what i am getting at ... other than cultural info ... grenfell is cutting edge on everything else ... shadrack is a nut.. a personal friend... they go hand in hand lol ... visited a couple weeks ago ... wanting to take pix of hosta for the new book ... unfortunately ... hail and all ... i was bummed ... he is a native Brit .... recently ensconced in buffalo of all places .... for the most part.. he is the photographer .... ken

Thanks RC for the Kindle book links...just to let you know, there were a couple in the 27 free list that were $4 or so (not free)..but I did manage tosnag a couple...lol

Click on them and then go to the Kindle App on your iPad and you will find them. Click on the book cover to open the book.

Yes, sometimes with a library's Overdrive subscription there's a waiting list. Especially for best sellers and recent releases. A wait list is the opposite of "free" in a sense - free books are ones that few want to read. Socks, if you're in California, you may be able to get library cards for neighboring communities. Each library system's Overdrive subscription is for a small subset of what Overdrive has to offer and each is different from the other. By having a few cards, you'll have access to more and different titles. Some library systems share their Overdrive subscriptions with others, so for some, getting another card may just provide access to the same subscription choices. You can check this on Overdrive. The best cards to have are the ones from the bigger cities. (California gives state funding to libraries IF they wish to receive it. In return, participating libraries must allow any California resident to get a library card, even if they live out of their service area. I've accumulated a few from travels in the state and it permits a much broader range of choice for Overdrive use).