oh, snowbunny, so sorry!! The glass flowers have been my downfall, too! My friend and I even thought about using the plate hangers and attaching them that way too, but the hangers were too small to hold the plate, guess we could of went back and got some bigger ones, but we were just about tired of them and had to back away. I had trouble with the GEII, but after posting here, I think I just got a bad tube. I dont think they are supposed to spin, but I agree with luna, I think some of the plates can be very weakened by the drilling. Good luck next time, dont give up, maybe just walk away for awhile! blessings-sherri

Nat, I do indeed grow Pope John Paul II and a few other hybrid teas. All hybrid teas in our climate will die back to only a few inches (or to the mulch line if you mound the base with soil or mulch). I used to grow more hybrid teas but have gotten tired of the winter dieback so I only kept a few, and PJP is one that I just had to keep because of the fragrance and sheer beauty of those pristine white blooms. Even though it gets pruned back to only a few inches tall in the spring, it rallys and will come back to bloom and be lovely all summer. My advice is to mound up some soil around the base of it to about a foot in the late fall. Next spring you will find that the top of it will be all brown and dead, but once you remove the soil from around it in the spring you should find some green, live cane. Prune it back to that green cane and it will sprout new growth that will produce flowers later. Most of my roses, with the exception of the old once-bloomers and rugosas (and a few Canadian-bred roses) will have quite a bit of dieback, but so long as there is some green cane, no matter how little, your rose will come back. Make sure you don't remove the winter protection until the ground and temps warm up fairly consistently (usually late April to early May here). Ownroot roses will come back even if the plant appears brown to the ground, because they come back from their roots. But I grow mostly grafted here because ownroots struggle in our climate, and I haven't lost a rose to winter yet. I've learned to accept the fact that in zone 4, most roses have to be pruned back fairly drastically in the spring. But no one would think by looking at them all in bloom in June that they ever had a 'haircut'....they grow rapidly and the pruning really stimulates blooming. Take care, Celeste

Auntyara, there is also an open invite here. I'd be more than happy to trade anything I have available when you are ready. I'm so glad you were able to post an honest review. Many have been afraid to post the truth due to past issues. I'm so proud of you for having the courage to move forward and post the truth. It's so sad to see a member prey on new GW members. Well, I was also new when I started in with the one I posted for. I believe this member keeps the good stuff for her friends and takes from the new users. I so hope that the other member returns who was also a new GW member. As I stated before, there are SO many honest, friendly and generous traders here on GW. If my trade with the individual had been my first, I may not have come back, but I had many good trades first. If you have a question, please know that the door is open for an honest answer. Blessings, Toni

"If I could only loose this sparetire !!! " OMG!! Now I have to wipe off the monitor!! The keyboard too!! I HAVE A THEME!! I HAVE A THEME!! I looked WWWAAAYYY back on an old thread and a little something my swapper posted about 3 years ago caught my eye and it has nothing to do with mice, frogs, crocs or the feet of any animal LOL!! I know where to buy the main item and the rest I will leave up to chance when I go out shopping this weekend. The 3 item rule is one I have trouble following (my bad) but I promise to do my best-scouts honor!! LOL Cheers! Susie