Wow-- scary! Yes, you and he definitely have my positive, best, get-better-fast-and-stay-that-way thoughts.

Raymond is kinda hot (in the va va voom sense). Nice pic.

Seriously, hope he is back on his feet soon and that you two can take your not-last trip to Europe as planned.

Oh, dear, Cathy, that's very worrisome. I'm glad he's home, but not knowing what caused it is scary.

You know that you have all my prayers and good wishes for Raymond and for you and the family, hoping that The Coach is on his feet and ready for your trip to Europe, just one of many trips to come.

Annei

Oh, Cathy, am so sorry to hear that Raymond has been sick. What an awful episode and a bad head concrete meetup (ouch ouch!). He sounds like a tough cookie who doesn't want any sympathy and also has a pretty good sense of humor. He sounds like a person I would like a lot, and he is kind of hunky, too. But then from brief cf posts, I really would like you, too.

I do wish you both lots of good health and a speedy recovery so you guys can go back to Europe. Lotta ball games are waiting for you. Best regards,

Beverly

My heart sank when I saw the title of your post. Just tell hunky Raymond to mind his nurse, his doctors and his pharmacist so he can get back on his feet and stay there! Beau and Lily have more games to cheer and certainly more vacations to enjoy. I am assuming that the trip is heading to Italy, but no matter the destination, I'm sending loads of healing thoughts, prayers and juju his way!

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Sending prayers and good thoughts your way. I know how the unknown can be very scary. Hoping they find the cause and can prevent it happening again.
Kat

Thanks to each of you for your support. I came here to share as not too many people are aware of the incident. While the Patient doesn't have a big ego, he doesn't want to be seen as weak for his players' sake. And BeauLily still don't know Pa is sick.

He is home and has been bed-ridden and walking with a cane when he does get up. But still no feedback from 3 doctors as to the cause.

Yup Ellen, we are flying into Rome with a side trip to Spain.

Maddie, we are overdue for lunch.

I'm so sorry that happened to him, Cathy, and to you. Maybe he stood up too fast. I get light headed sometimes when I stand up too fast, or if I'm bending over for some reason, then straighten up quickly. With him not feeling well, it could have been exaggerated. I don't know, though, just guessing.

I hope he gets better soon, so y'all can go on your trip.

Sally

(((Cathy and Ray))) I am sorry to hear this. He needs to be 100% well so you can have a honeymoon. Aw. I will be thinking about you both.

So sorry to hear this, Cathy. Without a clear diagnosis it must be very scary for you both. Best wishes for his speedy recovery so you can both relax on your European trip.

Oh Cathy I am so sorry to hear of Raymond's episode. I can't imagine how cranky he must be is being bedridden. Also could not imagine a better nurse. Maybe is you got a
" little uniform" it might perk him up.....but be careful with that too ;)

Give him a big hug from me and a high five from Clive....and a great big hug to you from both of us.

PS: We are back in Florida from Jan1 to April 1...so tell him he better be ready for a visit our way!

My sweet Cathy I am so sorry that you and Raymond are going through this.... I'll send my bestest thoughts of healing and love your way...

Is he following orders or being stubborn? I bet you're a pretty no nonsense kind of nurse. How are the cats responding to him being in bed?

Hope you get answers sooner than soon and remember I'm only an hour away if you need anything!

Hugz

Sally, He does get a little lightheaded when he gets up but nothing like this.

Robin, Thanks for the honeymoon suggestion. He did remind me that we had a milestone anniversary last week (I told him not to tell me which one).

Colleen, I will tell Ray that he has best wishes from Australia!!

Sharon, I'll pass on the high 5 but he could probably only manage a fist bump. Great, I look forward to meeting up with you both!

Oh my sweet Bobby, thanks for the thoughts. Kitties are avoiding Raymond; too much drama.

Love you all, you have really helped.

Thanks for the emails.

I am so sorry to hear of all Ray's health problems. I am sure you are a wonderful nurse. Keep you both in my thoughts and prayers.

Cathy, how's the patient doing? I know it must be frustrating for such a strong guy to be stuck in bed and dependent on someone else fore care... still thinking of both of you... hopefully, soon, he will return to being the HG and depending on you once again for things like how to run the microwave!

How's his appetite by the way?

More hugs....

Cathy, I'm glad I read this...well, you know what I mean, I'm certainly not glad to read that Raymond is having a bad time! My best to you both and I'll put you in my prayers. I'm sure they will be able to figure out what is going on and be able to fix it.

Nancy

I'm checking back in to lend more support. Please continue to keep us posted-- we are all very concerned and wish Raymond well.
I hope that he will begin to heal and regain his normal strength. Italy awaits!
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Thanks all. Two doctors' appointments today, neither offered relief or prognosis. He forbid me from going into the doctor's office fearing that I wouldn't be civil. So I wrote a snarky note on his list of meds, knowing that Raymond wouldn't notice it.

At this point it's a toss up over who is worse, the patient or the caregiver!

*I had to sneak a walker into the house today offered by a neighbor.

Sneak a walker into the house?? Vanity, thy name is Raymond. Maybe if he takes another tumble, he'll give the walker a try.

I have a friend with a very bad hip. She is undergoing chemo and cannot have hip replaced yet. The docs have warned her the hip could go at any time -- use a walker! Does she? Noooo.

Hope he is soon steady on his feet and you two are off to Italy.

I also just came to check in, darn it I was hoping there was some good news, or at least the news that something had been identified and treatment was scheduled.

Tell Raymond to just use the blasted walker, sheesh. As for the docs, nope, I wouldn't have been civil either. Not that I would have cared what they thought.

Annie

Cathy I am late to the party as usual, but I did want to add my healing thoughts to the long list of those of us that care very much for both you and Raymond.

I hope you get a DX soon, I think that is the hardest part....not knowing what or why.

I am confident he will be well and in fine form for your upcoming trip. How exciting!

Linda

I haven't checked Conversations lately.

Cathy, I'm so sorry to hear that Raymond is having health issues. Hope the doctors figure out soon what the cause of the problem is and that Raymond is well enough in time for your trip to Italy. Sending good thoughts your way.

~Ann

Cathy, I'm just back from being away. I was hoping you had some answers by now. Maybe the thought of your trip to Italy will make Raymond behave and rest up. I'll be thinking of you both.

They should make walkers look cool, like put racing stripes on them or something. I guess it's hard to figure out how to make a walker look cool, but there's got to be some way.

I sure hope they figure out what's wrong.

Sally

After the doctors rule out all the other possible causes, they may come to the same conclusion that Sally suggested--positional hypotension (temporary low blood pressure from getting up too quickly)--or low blood pressure due to one of his other meds. It's good, though, that they aren't jumping to that conclusion without checking for and eliminating the other possibilities.

In any case, I wish Raymond a speedy recovery, and I hope he'll get the "all-clear" soon, so he can travel. A trip to Italy must certainly be a wonderful incentive to follow doctor's orders and heal quickly. Hang in there, Nurse Ratchit! ;-)

Sue

Cathy, I know you will take good care of our boy. Please give him hugs and kisses from me and...well, perhaps a handshake from Roger, LOL. He will be in our prayers. We love both of you, so take care.

Cathy, I just found your post. I've not been over to Conversations in a bit, feeling really awful and have only managed 10-15 minutes on the other side every couple days.

Gosh, so sorry to read about the HG. It's not fun to not know the cause. Your mind wanders to every conceivable thing and that's not good.

Something very similar happened this summer to a marina friend of mine and it was positional hypotension. It was a hot, humid day and she was sitting in her lounge chair on deck reading...right in the sun. When she got up - over she went and scared the beezeesums out of everybody near. She went to ER by ambulance and they had her rest for a couple days at home and out of the sun. She's fine. Hopefully, it will be something simple like that for Ray. Ray and you both will be in my prayers and thoughts.

Hopefully, you soon be off on your Italian trip taking lots of pictures to share with us.

Take care and sure hope you hear something from the doctors this week.

/tricia

Cathy, I know you will take good care of our boy. Please give him hugs and kisses from me and...well, perhaps a handshake from Roger, LOL. He will be in our prayers. We love both of you, so take care.

Sherry, you have been on my mind lately. You said you wanted to go back to Europe and to let you know if I ever went. Well, if Raymond isn't getting around any better than he is today, then I don't know how he will go on the trip. So I might...well, I'm not going there now.

Update, he went to his wound care doctor today. I asked Raymond to please ask the doctor for some guidance e.g. What would you do doc? Here is the doctor's response, with a cock of the head and a hummmm "I have heard of gout." Are you kidding me??

Anyway, we think since his kidneys are at 30%, he isn't flushing out the uric acid that would ease the gout attack. Our EMT friend suggested that he suggest to his doctor to have dialysis to rid him of the acid among other things.

Cathy, are these problems all diabetes related?

If so, shoot me an email please. My DS is Type I and his career is in assisting other diabetics. Have a couple thoughts I'd like to share.

/tricia

((((Cathy)))). I am just now catching up. How scary! All good thoughts for Raymond and for you.

Sending prayers Raymond's way.

Sending you my best, and wishing for a speedy recovery.

AM

I'm so sorry to read about Raymond and will send you both positive thoughts.

Lee

Lee, I'm glad to see you here too, I hope you and Max are both doing well.

Annie

Yeah, it's good to see you around the CF, I know you've got a lot to deal with too. We saw the list of the top 10 sights in the US and have you and Max to thank for taking us to one of them (Garden of the Gods).

Update, Ray is doing better, he even went to his team's practice-he supervised but he is a long way from hitting BP.

Thank you all for your support.

I'm thrilled to hear that Raymond's health is improving! I hope he's minding Nurse Ratched too! LOL

Oh, good news! So glad to hear Ray is up and (almost) at 'em. Supervising is fun -- sit on a stool, point your finger and tell everyone else what to do.

Lee, not sure what is going on and I feel as if I should know. No matter, I'm thinking of you.

Cathy, that is wonderful news! I'm so glad Raymond has improved enough to supervise a practice.

Hooray, Cathy, I'm happy that Raymond is doing better. Now, if he just does what you tell him.....

Yeah, like THAT'S going to happen, LOL. I do hope he just continues to improve and your trip is wonderful.

Annie

Cathy, Nice to hear that Raymond is on the mend.

~Ann

Glad to hear that Raymond is improving! I haven't been over to Conversations in a long time. I'll keep good thoughts and prayers coming at you both!

Hugs,
Teresa

I missed this but I am glad the HG is doing better.

Wow Cathy, so sorry the HG has been going through all this.. and you too. Not easy being Nurse Ratched. Glad things are improving. So scary. Sending you all the best energy.

I'm catching up on this just now thanks to a good CF friend and her private message to me. Cathy, you know I am praying that Raymond behaves himself. He needs all these prayers! :-) Really, I'm thinking of you and Raymond and hoping all is well. What a scary incident! And please tell Ray to stop it! ;-)

Cathy do you have any updates for us? I just wanted to let you know I am still thinking about you guys and hope things have improved greatly since this post was created.

Just back from the trip, thanks for checking in. Yea, Coach was a trouper, he did well walking 2 to 3 miles each day.

I'll report later--I haven't bought ANY Christmas presents, so that's my focus right now.

Thanks again!

Yay!...I hope you had way too much fun on your trip. Have fun last minute Christmas shopping (ha).

Wow, Cathy, I'm so glad you got to take your trip and Raymond was really well for it.
Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas Cathy, I'm so glad you and Raymond got to take that trip and that Raymond was well enough to really enjoy it.

Now get that shopping done! (grin) Merry Christmas.

Annie

I'm so happy you were able to take your trip and I'm really impressed by the amount of walking Raymond was able to do.

Happy New Year to both of you.

Lee