A a pool drowning could be an actual accident because it does not require any intent to abuse the child. She could have wandered into the pool while the adults were sleeping or making breakfast. In the case of an actual accident the response is to call 911 and report it. In the case of a death as a result of child abuse the response to hide it so no one finds out what you've done. Leaving a child in the car can also be an accident such as when stupid parents forget they've left the kid in the car and the child dies. They then call 911. Once again the proof is in the fact that no one covers up an accident to make it look like murder.

GardenWeb does give us a conversation page to discuss things of local interest that are not gardening related and may not attract national or international attention. Quite nice of them to offer this service in my opinion. "Conversations" is linked on the main page and clicking on it is optional. I do find it odd that there are no pepper threads on "Hot Topics" :)

Les - It's 3 am out here, and whereas you have probably awakened for the day, I've not yet gone to sleep! Which I'm going to do right now. If you like, I'll email you at the addy in your profile, as I'm not sure that this subject is suitable for the forum. There are many places to go on the Net for information. E.g. http://www.hrc.arg/doc/?t=mideast&c=bahrai -- I'm not saying that CC itself, as a company operating in the US, torments women. It fully complies with our laws, and therefore has at least the legally mandated number of WESTERN women in the company, here. However, anyone proclaming adherence to Sharia acquiesces in the prevailing conditions in countries of that religion, and those conditions are intolerable. Arcapita states on CC's website that it fully complies with Sharia in the running of the company, under the FAQ section. Beyond that I don't want to go on this forum, as it's completely off-topic. If this were moved to Conversations, we could. If you don't mind my emailing you, let me know, and I'll do it tomorrow. My brain must now get some sleep. Threegrad - So sorry! This is such an informative thread. I'm afraid that when I saw fair-trade and CC both mentioned here, the irony simply hit me. Nighty-night...

Sorry for not posting more yesterday.. I got busy and then had too many plates spinning. So, today.. I stopped at 7-11 and got coffee. It was sorta my "I need coffee and I will not have to 'buy' it after today!.. lol I am actually not grumpy if I do not get coffee, but I talk about cappuccinos so much at work people are getting to be like, "well? where's this cappuccino nectar of the gods you speak of all the time?" so.. time to make the coffee! Yesterday, I decided to bring in chips and salsa to share. My wife can LIVE off chips and salsa.. 2 cans of Rotel 2 Jalapenos 1 lg can of peeled tomatoes 1 clove of garlic a lot of Cilantro 1 lg or 2 normal limes 1/2 a lg onion salt to taste mulch it all together in a blender... add a little Cumin... She made 3 batches and we grabbed some chips and took some into both our places of work. We ate nothing but chips and salsa all day.. lol So, thanks for all the comments! Talk Coffee or salsa all ya like! Whomever got me on a kick a while back about making my own hot sauce.. I am HOOKED!.. but I have to wait till the kitchen is done to really kick it into gear. I bought 48 of the hot sauce bottles and cannot wait to fill them in the new kitchen! They are adding the plumbing to the slab formation this week. Russ