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doraville - I did an estimate online and it quoted me at $460 for cellular. That's a bit expensive, especially since I'm buying 8 for the windows. I'd rather the sliding panels, I would imagine they are not as bulky as the cellular would be. I think 3/4" is just right, though you're right if you have cabinets there the panels won't work. I have 8" to the right of my sliders so panels won't work if I want them to open to the right, I could open to the left but I will have a credenza of some sort there. UGH! So many decisions, which is why I think the panels like momof3kids would work and they look really nice. momof3- do you have privacy panels?

The wood looked like it was probably unstained, and it is gorgeous. I would prefer it over most oak, but white oak is much more appealing to me than the red oak that is more common here. I talked to a couple of guys today -- one about the materials and one about the installation -- both about finishes. One likes the oil finishes but says a lot of folks think they are too much upkeep. Our discussion reminded me of my marble counters -- in a good way. The other guy said the oil finishes show dirt and most people are happier with a polyurethane finish -- also reminded me of the marble, but more of the nay sayers. He did suggest getting a large enough piece of something to treat with the oil and set on the floor where we can walk on it and the dogs track across it. I do have some smooth finish plywood in the garage that I could do that with. I am still making inquiries on the availability and checking out the finishes. I'm looking for smaller quantities of the stuff to sample, but it's not easy to find so far. I did have 2 people say it would be feasible to lay the flooring, sand and then finish room by room at least with the oil finishes. That may help us get it all done. Moving out for a mooth or more is not an option with 2 dogs, a 19 year old cat and one in high school with lots of activities, but I'd like to get it done before the holidays begin. I didn't think that would be a problem, but it's looking a bit tight.

Here's a piece on rootstocks written by Dr. Van Fleet, whom you may know from his rose hybrids... "Hybrid Stock for Rose Propagation" [Paper read before the American Rose Society by Dr. W. Van Fleet] But little effort has been made to ascertain the Rose stocks best suited for American use. Rose growers here mainly propagate cuttings, and “own root” Roses of all varieties that may be increased in that manner have, until very lately, been much preferred for culture both under glass and in the open. Recent successful commercial trials, however, have shown the advantage of grafting certain forcing Roses on stocks resistant to the “eel worm,” as well as to supply a root system of greater vigor than is inherent in the variety wanted. Then, too, a considerable number of the most desirable hardy Roses propagate very sparingly, if at all, by cuttings. The increase by root cuttings and clump division is slow and precarious, so that budding and grafting on congenial stocks remain the only practicable methods. We have hitherto accepted the stocks most approved by European growers as without question the most available, and for greenhouse commercial work the Manetti Rose of Hybrid China parentage, may always be most useful; but for outside planting both Manetti and Dog Brier have proven dismal failures under our climatic conditions. The latter does not thrive at all, and the former, while vigorous enough, suckers badly and ceases growing too early after dry summers to encourage late blooms in those varieties disposed to autumnal flowering. Manetti roots are very fibrous, forming a perfect mat in rich, moist soil; but they run shallow and are quickly affected by drought. They drink greedily soluble nourishment, but seem unable to extract much plant food from dry soil. The common experience with Roses worked on Manetti is that they are troublesome and short-lived, unless so planted as eventually to throw out an adequate root system of their own. The great majority of the imported budded Roses are discarded after blooming a season or two, and the remaining plants seldom develop into the strong, vigorous specimens we have a right to expect. These defects in European stocks have been long known, though but little effort has been made to find more useful substitutes. One nursery in the West claimed some years ago to use Mme. Plantier, a vigorous and very hardy Rose of much-mixed parentage, but of the Hybrid China type, with great success; but we have not heard much about it since. Our native Prairie Rose, Rosa setigera, has been used in an experimental way by the writer and others with much success, both as a stock for budding and for root grafting. It is exceedingly hardy, the foliage is resistant to most diseases, and the root system is strong and penetrates the soil deeply. Buds or grafts unite readily, and the union seems very permanent, but time has not tested the latter claim. All varieties tried grow well on this stock, which may be easily increased by seeds or cuttings. It is of a climbing habit, and the canes are not suitable for high budding for tree or standard effects. The roots seldom sucker, all the new growth starting from the crown. For high budding we have found nothing better than the Penzance Hybrid Sweetbriers, Rose Bradwardine, Amy Robsart, and Anne of Gierstein. They grow here more upright and vigorous than the type species, and are not subject to sun-scald like standard Manetti. Other hybrids of the Sweetbrier, with General Jacqueminot, and with various Hybrid Perpetuals, of our own raising, have the same characteristics. There is no suckering, and they are easily increased by cuttings. Lord Penzance and other Sweetbrier Hybrids, containing blood of the Persian Yellow class, should be avoided for this purpose. The canes are more slender, and propagation is less certain. The most suitable stocks for low or dwarf budding and root grafting appear to be hybrids of Rosa multiflora and R. Luciae, more widely known as R. Wichuraiana. Seedlings of Clothilde Soupert crossed with Crimson Rambler furnish the best example of the former class. Some are thornless, or nearly so, strong, rapid growers and deep rooters. They work very easily, and the buds or grafts soon make a firm union. They can be increased by cuttings of green and hard wood with the greatest facility. Crosses between Crimson Rambler and R. Wichuraiana, to use the name best known, are still more vigorous, but less upright in habit and quite thorny. They strike readily from cuttings, and also root as freely from the tips as a dewberry, when allowed to trail. The roots penetrate the soil deeply, and the bark works with the greatest ease when ready for budding. Crosses between R. Wichuraiana and China Roses sometimes possess great vigor. One plant two years from the seed, planted in poor, gravelly upland, threw a trailing cane 26 feet long last summer. They all seem very easy of propagation and are more upright and less thorny than R. Wichuraiana itself, which trails as flat as a melon vine. The roots of R. Wichuraiana and its hybrids go deep down in the soil, and if there is any moisture or fertility they will find it. They will thrive on the most barren slope when established and the plants look as if they would endure for all time. The long, smooth roots are admirable for grafting, and they can be worked as easily and certainly as apple roots if good wood is fitted to them. The grafts may be tied with twine or lightly waxed and packed in damp moss, and kept rather warm until union is effected. Neither Rosa multiflora nor R. Wichuraiana hybrids sucker, but buds start freely from the crown, which should be set rather deeply in budded plants. There is no trouble with suckering from the root grafts. Plants of the above hybrids grown from cuttings of good-sized wood are very manageable and would seem to be preferable to Manetti for most purposes. R. multiflora seedlings are being used to some extent by commercial Rose growers, and they seem to be growing in favor; but we think hybrids of the Rambler series would be more satisfactory. Helene, a very vigorous and almost thornless seedling of Crimson Rambler, is now in commerce, and looks as if it would answer the purpose admirably, though we have not tried it. While rather off the subject the writer would mention that Perle des Jardins, budded on an established plant of Cherokee Rose, Rosa laevigata, is giving splendid blooms of almost exhibition quality, in a cold, damp house where five years' effort with potted Perles on own roots and Manetti only resulted in a chance “bullhead” once or twice a year. Further trials will be made with Teas and Hybrid Teas on this stock. There is a growing conviction among propagators that the stock is as important as the scion, and grand commercial results have come from the proper selection of resistant and congenial stocks in the culture of grapes. plums and other fruits. The breeding of stocks by hybridization and selection may become as essential as the production of new varieties, if American Rose cul,ture is ever to reach its proper development in the horticultural world. From 'American Gardening', 15 Mar 1902, pp.168-9