Hi Scottfsmith Good that you said you are not sure what i am looking for. Sorry if i wrote it little hard way it. I have found shop which sell peaches. Red heaven was variety as i said earlier. So i started to look information about peach varieties. We here Finland do not have a lot of peach varieties available, i think this is quite new thing this Peach growing here. I have found shop in Italy which sells peach trees. In it internet site it says any plant anywhere on title and registration page has place to choose country. So i think they might ship it to here. On that site i saw peach varieties. Glohaven, Redhaven, Cardinal, Babygold 6, Springcrest, Springtime varieties was listed which are from U.S.A. (Many of them). Those varieties which i posted describtions above. So i did to search peach variety describtions english and then also italy language, which i translated to english using Google translate. I tried to get information about them, where they grow, how hardy they are, what they taste, when they bloom, oh and yes maturity timeline. Not much information available from mine country, but something. I asked some way does someone have own growing experiences. I have seen some post here about people growing peaches, i remember your old variety post, one people from Colorado asking peach varieties, i think she onemilehighgirl, sorry if i wrote id wrong (I think that came from woman) has Cresthaven peach and also that North Dakota people having peaches, altought he, Troman1973 id if i do not remember wrong last time i remember thought moving into blueberries. I found it hard to find some variety describtion on internet, especially Cardinal. Frost is little easier, but some hard finding there too. Cardinal variety From Georgia U.S.A. if i remember right. But found this on it : Cardinal medium fruit with bright red over yellow skin; flesh is yellow, firm with a melting texture; freestone from Georgia. Early midseason harvest. Springtime is white flesh peach. As i said i haven't tasted white flesh peach so i asked what is taste like. I have found now on internet they are sweet. Yellow flesh are more acidic. Can you tell me what "acidic" exactly mean? Is that same kind of flavor than red currants? Sour, no i think. What kind of acidicidy they are referring? Here is some peach variety describtions : http://www.harvestwizard.com/2007/06/peach_varieties_there_are_more.html I looked that Italy site, because they have more peach varieties, which are not available (I think so) here. Springtime, Springcrest varieties seems to be earlier than Red haven. I think it might cost more to buy trees from Italy, but if there is some good peach varieties it might be worth a try. Other choice would be just stay here and buy peach here. What you think about Peach hardiness? I have seen USDA zones and chilling units on internet. I have read that post on peaches here in Gardenweb, i think it make sense many ways. I have feeling that it is important peach to have enough time to ripens fruits and hardening to winter. As that post says hardiness is more than zone. Springcrest has 650 chilling units requirement and i have seen it to grow on the following places : Alto, Georgia, U.S.A (Ripens 5.6.-12.6. when i wrote that down, but looks like this information is no longer available.) . Brentwood, California, U.S.A. Also saw picture from Australia. This variety is for sell in New Zealand. I found Springcrest also to be in recommendations list in Georgia peach and nectarines for home use in different Georgia zones. Zones 4 and 5 says page, which is southern Georgia, U.S.A. for example Tifton, Geogia U.S.A. Here is the link : http://pubs.caes.uga.edu/caespubs/pubcd/C741-W.HTMl Cresthaven was for zone 1,2,3 on the list. So looks like things are not as simply. Above i mentioned just that there is many things to consider, if you have something lack, maybe you can justify it by another thing. What firmness means in peaches? http://www.caes.uga.edu/commodities/fruits/gapeach/varieties.html Says Springcrest is high firmness. I think it means peach do not go soft and holds it's form good way. Did i got it right? Correction to mine message, i wrote New Zealand has opposite season (Altought i do not see at this moment orginal message.), i meant opposite season compared northern hemishphere. New Zealand is located in southern hermishphere. Thanks of book name but i looked in it google and you seemed to be quite right about that it is hard to find. Eskota hi Thanks of book name. I looked little bit in it and found 1 peach variety describtion.

ARS 2010 OFFICIAL ROSE LIST SUPPLEMENT, MARCH 31, 2011 By Ronald Schwerdt 3-31-2011 A Partial list of registered / unregistered roses with Approved Exhibition Names (AEN�s), missing from ARS 2010 Official List and /or Modern Roses 12 and Recent Rose Registrant website. Lists are posted on the last day of each month, remaining valid until ARS publically publishes something contrary, to ARS members. 1) ARS Approved Exhibition Name (AEN), or temporary (AEN). 2) Color Classification. 3) ICRA-Recent Rose Registrant website/ Rose magazine registration date. 4) Date of latest change. NOTE: Roses (X) Yellow, new, and/or changed this month. (XX) Red requires a correction in ARS documents. Many are listed in the Combined Rose List (CRL), with temp AEN�s. THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL ARS PUBLICATION HYBRIDTEA (HT) Almost Heaven pb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 Always And Forever dr, 1-17-2011 Amelia (X) HT, 4-20-2010>>>3-22-2011 Arjuna HT, mr, 3/12/2010, 5/2010 Ayumi HT, my, 2010 Brenda Marlene HT, pb, 1-21-2011 Baqi Billah Maulama Shaykh Nazim Betty Knight Scripps HT, m, 2010 Betty�s Smile HT, lp, 2/9/2011 Black Berry HT, dr, 2009 Big Hearted HT, m, 1-21-2011 Bloom of Ruth lp, 2010, 7-31-2010 Bold and Beautiful pb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 Brother Jack HT, pb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 Brumildavan Rensburg HT, lp, 2009 Buckwheat HT, ob, 2009>>>(M/F) Carolina Pride HT, mr, 3-12-2010, 5/2010 Casey Alexandra HT, ob, 7-7-2010, Champagne Celebration HT, ab, 2010 Cool as Ice HT, m, 1-21-2011 Colour Buffet pb, 2008>>>>(S) Crescendo HT, pb, 2011, 1-17-2011 Dalen�s Delight mp, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Deepwater HT, m, 2009 Delray HT, pb, 7-10-2010, Delightful Blessings HT, w, 7-9-2010, Desert Magic HT, pb, 3-2011 Diane�s Delight HT, rb, 7-7-2010, Domina (HT, w, 2/9/2011 Double Exposure HT, yb, 7-7-2010, Ducat Ht, my, 2009 East Park HT, lp, 7-31-2010 Every Good Gift HT, mr, 7-7-2010, Fairest One rb, 2010, 1-17-2011 Father�s Love HT, 2009 First Lady A ly, 4-20-2010 Fortitude HT, dp, 2/9/2011 Garden Director Bartje Miller rb, 4-20-10 Gem Star HT, pb, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Grandma Dee HT, rb, 7-7-2010, Heavenly Touch yb, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Hey Jack HT, yb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 His Redeeming Love HT, yb, 2/9/2011 Honley Male Voice Choir 10-13-2010 Ireta Ellis HT, dp, 2/9/2011 J&P Cabernet HT, 2011, 1-17-2011 J&P Chardonnay w, 2011, 1-17-2011 J&P Sangria HT, w, 2011, 1-17-2011 Jim-Z HT, rb, 4-20-2010 Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe HT, dp, Joy Unspeakable HT, w, 7-7-2010, Julischka HT, ob, 2010 Jycinda Maree HT, LP, 7-7-2010, Kabookie dp, 2/9/2011 Katie Louise Ray HT, r, 7-10-2010, Koishi Hama mr, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 La Rose Des 4 Vents HT, lp, 2008 Lady Nefer Guinevere HT, dr, 3-12-2010 Laetitia Casta HT, pb, 2010 Laura V. HT, pb, 7-7-2010, Lemon Lexie HT, yb, 4-20-2010 Let�s Dance mp, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Love Everlasting HT, pb, 7-7-2010 Love�s Kiss HT, pb, 1-17-2011 Loveable HT, yb, 7-26-2010 Ludwig HT, 7-28-2010>>>S, 9-2-2010 Loving You HT, w, 2/9/2011 Ma Normandie HT, pb, 2010 Madeline HT, yb, 2/9/2011 Maid of Dignity HT, op, 1997 Magical Moment HT, ab, 2/9/2011 Martina Mondadori HT, pb, 2007 Mon Petit Chou HT, dp, 2010 Marylou Whitney HT, lp, 2/9/2011 Mr Caleb HT, mr, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 My Lady Barbara HT, pb, 3-1-2010 Mysterieuse HT, m, 2010 Natali HT, dp, 2010 Pacific Celebration HT, yb, 7-7-2010, Natalie Ann HT, m, 2/9/2011 Party Dress HT, mp, 2009 Passionate Gardener pb, 9-2-2010 Patience HT, pb, 2010 Precious Promises HT, rb, 10-13-2010 Prime Minister Nakasone 10-13-2010 Prof Piet Hoek HT, w, 2009 Raspberry Ice HT w, 2009 Red Headed Stranger HT , mr, 2/9/2011 Rosarian Madame Hideko rb, 7-9-10, S Pandey HT, pb, 2004 Sanctuary 2007 HT, w, 2007 Secret Lady HT, pb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 Scently Devine HT, w, 2/9/2011 Shield of Ruby HT, pb, 2/9/2011 Silver Mascara HT, m, 2006 Sister Jane HT, 7-2010, Sister Ruby HT, pb, 2/9/2011 Smoothie HT, Ob, 2010 Snow Star HT, >>>(S), 1/2011 Society Belle 1-2008, 9-2-2010 Souv De Baden-Baden HT, pb, Sparkle HT, ob, 2010 St Mary�s School HT, mr, 2009 Sugar Moon HT, w, 7-26-2010 Sunday Evening HT, w, 2/9/2011 Sunny Sky HT, my, 2010 Super N-Joy HT, pb, 2009 Sweet Lissie m HT, dy, 2/9/2011 T. H. Coop HT, rb, 7-7-2010, Takiginou HT, mr, 7-26-2010, Tblbeta pb, 3-5-07, 4/2007 The Great White HT, w, 3-12-2010 The 9/11 Flight 93 Rose dr, 7-26-10 Top Gun m HT, pb, 2/9/2011 Toplesse HT, w, Tsarina Ritorto HT, Ly, 2009 Twizzle HT, m, 4-20-20110 View Beauty HT, mp, 2010 Wakana HT, w, 2009 Whirling Waves HT, pb, 7-7-2010, Xavier Maguire HT, pb, 4-20-2010 Young Rita HT, yb, 2007 GRANDIFLORAS: (Gr.) Amelia (X) (Gr), 3-22-2011 Apricot Angel Gr, ab,, 2010 Dancing Lady Gr, m, 1-21-2011 David Lowing Gr, yb, 2-9-2010 Dick Clark Gr, AARS 2010 High Flying Playboy Gr, yb, 2/9/2011 Mister Z Gr, op, 2/9/2011 Montauk Gr, mr, 7-10-2010, Natural Blonde Gr, w, 2/9/2011 Southern Gal Gr, ly, 2/9/2011 Sweet Sarah Gr, dp, 4-20-2010 The Duchess Gr, mp, 2/9/2011 Tombob 8-2008>>>>9-2-2010 Vanilla Twilight Gr, w, 2/9/2011 Vic�s Refrain Gr, w, >>>>>>>>>(S) FLORIBUNDAS: (F) Adobe Sunrise F, op, 11-5-2010 Anne Henderson F, ob, 2003 Antique Pink F, mp, 1-21-2011 Art Nouveau F, rb, 2010 Audrey and Bob F, ab, 2/9/2011 Bass Tone F, lp, 1-21-2011 Be Dont F, ab, 2005 Berlingot F, pb, 2010, 9-8-2010 Bordure Apricot F, ab, 2010 Bossa Nova F, mp, 4-8-2010 Breathe F, ab, 2010 Bridal Tiara F, w, 2010 Captain Jack F, m, 1-21-2011 Castle Howard m, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Cholan F, pb, 3-12-2010 Chou Chou F, ab, 2009 Claire Marshall 2010, 7-31-2010 Dame Elegant F, yb, 1-21-2011 David Dugdale w, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Day Dream F, My, 2009 Disco Lemonade F, lp, 1-21-2011 Elsina Dean F, dr, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Estart F, Dy, 2010 Famosa F , 2008 Fem�s Rose F, dy, 2007 Fields of Fromelles 7-2010, 9-2-2010 Flame F, ob 2010 Flaming Phoenix F, mp, 1-21-2011 Gladys Quine (X) ob,>>>M/F, 3/2006 Girlguiding UK Centenary Rose rb Groovy Thangy F, mp, 2/9/2011 Hans Gonewein Rose F, M, 2010 Harold�s Pride F, ob, 7-9-2010, Harquest F, ab, 2009 Herbert Maurice Vary F, pb, 4-20-2010 Hermann-Hesse-Rose F, w, 2010 High Summer Skies F, mp, 3-12-2010 Hilda Sophia Lehmann my, 2/9/2010 Huddersfield Choral Society F, 2/9/11 Hypnotic F, lp, 2/9/2011 Ichiyoh F, ly, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Jolene Adams rb, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Kandi Kisses F, pb, 7-7-2010, Kathryn F, m, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Ketchup & Mustard F , rb, 2/9/2011 Kiss the Sun F, lp, 2/9/2011 Koko Loko F, m, 7-26-2010, Land of Oz (X) F, op, 2/9/2011 Lemon Veranda F, mp, 2010 Loretta Lynn Van Lear ab, 10-13-2010 Lovely Jessie op, >>>>>>(17/25) Marguerita F, lp, 2/9/2011 Mogul F, mr, 3-12-2010 Monkey Business F, ly, 1-17-2011 Moon Child F, ly, 3-12-2010 Mutant Charisma F, ob, 1997 Parbo F, ob, 2009 Peeky Boo F, ly, 2/9/2011 Pianist Hiroko F, yb, 7-9-2010, Pink Explosion F, lp, 2/9/2011 Pink Medley F, mp, 2007 Planet Earth F, ly, 2/9/2011 Princess Tenko F, pb, 2010 Raspberry Ice rb->>>>10-5-2006, Red Hat Lady F, Mr, 2010 Riko F, dr, 10-13-2010 Robert Winston F, lr, 2010 San Diego Sweetheart F, ab, 9-2010 Sandra Lorraine op, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Shakira Folies F, dp, 2006 Shino m, 10-13-2010 Solero F, my, 2009 Sonic Boom F, mp, 2/9/2011 Starry Eyed F, lp, 2/9/2011 Striped Frau Astrid Spath F, rb, Susan�s Sister F, yb, 2010 Super Trouper F, ob, 8-30-2010 Sweet Dream Cream F, w, 2009 Tahlia F, yb, 4-20-2010 TeJoe m, 7-9-2010, The Last Dance my, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Tomblu 8-2008>>>>9-2-2010 Thanksgiving Rose F, ob, 2010 Vanilla Skies F, w, 2/9/2011 Victoria Pendleton ly, 7-31-2010 Walking on Sunshine my, 11-5-2010 Zen F, r, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 MINIATURES: (Min) All a�Twitter Min, ob, 2012 Be My Baby Min, 2011 AOE BENomen Min, 2011 AOE Bill Zumbar m, 5-26-2010, Bridal Shower Cl. Min, w, 2010 Chelsea Belle Min, 2010 Hall of Fame Fancy Pants Min, 2010 Hall of Fame Feisty Min, mr, 2002, 1-17-2011 Festa Min, 2000 Free Power Min, ob, Flower Power? Giggles Min, rb, 2010 Grace Seward Min, 2010 Hall of Fame Harpeep Min, 2009 Hello Georgous! Min, ob, 2/9/2011 Holly Tred Min, 1990 Intimidator Min, my, 7-9-2010, Kamakura Komachi Cl rb, 7-26-10 Lainey Marie Min, yb, 2/9/2011 L�etranhe Min, r, 1996 La Belle Carmen Min, mp, 1999 Minnie the Moocher op, 2/9/2011 Mr Gavin Min, dr, 2005 Ms Rhonda Louise Min, dp, 4-20-2010 Neon Balconia Min, dp, 2010 Pattie Coles (X) Min, ob, 2/9/2011 Quantum Min, mr, 2009 Renegade Min, 4/8 petals, 2010 HB Renegade Min, 4/8, 2011 HB Renegade (XX) Min, >>>17/25 petals Robin�s Rose Min, mr, 7-26-2010 Rose Tutu Min, w, 4-20-2010 Sans Parents Min, lp, 7-7-2010, Saxilb Belle Min, mp, 2009 Striped Delight Min, pb, 2009 Sweet Harriette (X) Min, dp, 10-13-2010 Teenie Genie Min, pb, 7-9-2010, Toscana Balconia Min, op, 2010 White Babyflow Min, w, 2010 White but Nice Min, w, >>>>>yb Zwergenfee 09 Min, or, 2010 MINIFLORA: (MinFl) Always On My Mind m, 2/9/2011 Anna Mae M/F, pb, 4-20-2010 Anne Paul M/F, op, 7-7-2010, Apricot Ingrid M/F, 2007 Apricot Ingrid M/F, rb, 2007 Awesomeness M/F, dr, 9-22-2010 Behind Closed Doors F, pb, 2/9/2011 Buckwheat M/F, >>-6-17-2010 Colour Scheme M/F, ab, 3-12-2010 Dr. Jim Hering M/F, w, 2/9/2011 Dream Catcher M/F, pb, 3-12-2010 Elspeth M/F, pb, 4-20-2010 Eternity M/F, mp, 7-9-2010, Fading Love M/F, 2009 For Mickey M/F, 10-2009, For Mickey>>>>Vonna Mae, 9-2010 Forgiveness mr, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Ghostzapper M/F, 7-9-2010, Glowing Sunset yb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 Isabel Hit M/F, w, 5-30-2010 Kilmeny M/F, mp, 3-12-2010 Lunar Eclipse M/F, m, 7-9-2010, Mary Alice M/F, yb, 9-22-2010, 1/2011 Mary Pickersgill 4/8>>>10-13-2010 Mary Pickersgill (XX) 4/8, Jan 2011 Rose Mary Pickersgill (X) my,>>>>> 26/40 Melanie Dowe M/F, dr, 2/9/2011 Minnelli 2007 Hit M/F, 5-30-2010 Miss Karen M/F, m. 2/9/2011 Nova Hit M/F, mp, 5-30-2010 Otomegokoro M/F, m, 2/9/2011 Pale Pink Sky lp, 10-13-2010, 1/2011 Patron M/F, dr, 1-21-2011 Plum Sauce M/F, m, 2009 Point of Grace M/F, pb, 10-13-2010 Powerhouse M/F, >>>, rb, Raspberry Ice rb->>>> (F), 10-5-2006, Remembering Margie rb, 7-26-2010, San 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Greetings from Virginia Beach! Here are the details about the upcoming 2006 Southeast Citrus Expo. It should be a great time and all those in the surrounding areas are encouraged to attend. SOUTHEAST CITRUS EXPO 2006 The Southeast Citrus Exposition is now into its fourth year. Its purpose is to encourage citrus growing outside the commercial citrus belt for both the home gardener and the serious enthusiast. This years Expo will feature expert speakers who will provide information on growing cold-hardy citrus in the Southeast United States. Topics that will be discussed will be: in ground or container culture, advice on choosing citrus, cold protection, grafting and selection of root stock, as well as other topics. The Expo will include a citrus fruit contest, plant sale, and tours of citrus trees growing in Virginia Beach, Virginia. When: Saturday November 18th 2006 from 10:00AM to 4:30PM (entries of fruit for the contest must be received between 9:00AM and 10:00AM ( NO LATER) Where: Virginia Aquarium & Marine Science Center Virginia Beach, VA. 717 General Booth Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA. 23451 (757) 425-FISH www.virginiaaquarium.com Directions: From I-95 North 11 miles above the VA./NC. State Line take RT# 58 East to Norfolk/Virginia Beach. Stay on RT#58 until Bowers Hill Intersection. At Bowers Hill, bear right onto I-64 East. Take a right on to I-264 East, stay on I-264 until Atlantic Ave at the Virginia Beach Ocean Front. Take a right on Atlantic Ave, go over the Rudee Inlet Bridge, continue approximately ¾ miles and you will see the Virginia Aquarium on the right. 2006 Expo Agenda 7:30  9:00AM Early Bird Plant Sale at Pungo Palms Nursery Plant Sale promptly ends at 9:00AM ( Note: Vendors can setup at 7:00AM) 9:00  10:00AM Registration and Admission ( Make sure you participate in the drawing for afternoon tour groups A or B) Admission to the Citrus Expo will be FREE for those attending. Admission to the Aquarium will be at a reduced group rate. Raffle tickets for the Expo plant giveaway will be available before the lectures and during the display of the fruit in the competition. Tickets will be $1.00 and will benefit the Citrus Expo. Plants for Raffle will be donated by the Expo coordinators & vendors. These will include: cold-hardy citrus, cold-hardy palms, and other rare plants. 10:00  1045AM Presentation by Bob Koch, "Citrus Grown in Containers", Located in the March Pavilion Auditorium. 11:00  11:45AM Presentation by Stan McKenzie and Ned Rahn, " In Ground Citrus Culture", Located in the Marsh Pavilion Auditorium. 12:00  1:00PM Fruit Competition Awards, Fruit Display, and Raffle in the Chesapeake Bay and the Atlantic Ocean PavilionÂs Promenade Room Note: all fruit entered in the competition will be on display 1:15  2:15PM (Lunch on your own) a list and location of restaurants within three miles Of the Aquarium will be provided. Expo Afternoon Tours and Plant Sale For afternoon tours, all participants will be gathered into two groups. Group A Group B 2:20  3:15PM Group A Will tour Robert MotycaÂs Citrus located in his back yard Robert will give a talk on approach grafting. 3:15  4:00PM Group B Will tour Robert MotycaÂs Citrus located in his back yard Robert will give a talk on approach grafting. 3:40  4:30PM+?? "ALL" End of the day plant sale at Pungo Palms Nursery and tour Of in ground citrus The Southeast Citrus Expo is sponsored by: *GaryÂs Nursery, New Bern, North Carolina Wholesale and retail grower of cold hardy palms, Bananas, citrus, and other plants in eastern North Carolina since 1975. Gary will have plants available for purchase at the Plant sale. Visit GaryÂs Nursery online at www.garysnursery.com *McKenzie Farms Nursery, Scranton, South Carolina Stan "The Citrusman" McKenzie sells many varieties of cold hardy citrus trees, palms, traditional fruit trees, vegetables and other plants. Stan will bring citrus for the plant sale. Visit McKenzie Farms online at www.mckenzie-farms.com or email at citrusman99@hotmail.com *RahnÂs Plant Connection, Port Royal, South Carolina Ned and Faye Rahn sell a large variety of citrus trees and other rare plants and flowers not found at garden centers. They will bring plants for the plant sale. Email Ned and Faye at plantfolks@yahoo.com *Virginia Greenhouse Association, Hampton Roads Chapter Members are greenhouse owners, who love plants and want to share their knowledge and experiences with other plant lovers. *The Southeastern Palm Society The Southeast Palm Society is a chapter of the International Palm Society, Members are devoted to growing hardy palms and other extraordinary plants, including hardy citrus. Visit the Southeastern Palm Society online at www.sepalms.org. *Southern Fruit Fellowship The Southern Fruit Fellowship is an informal organization of amateur fruit growing enthusiasts throughout the Southern United States. Membership is open to all interested parties. The fellowship has a quarterly newsletter and has meetings at different locations In the Southeast. Membership and dues: contact Retta Davis (318)686-4249 or email: DAVISD_R@Hotmail.com *Flying Dragon Citrus Nursery, Jacksonville, FL. Flying Dragon Citrus Nursery specializes in many varieties of citrus which are grafted on Flying Dragon rootstock. Any questions or requests, call: (904)880-5026 or email: www.flyingdragoncitrusnursery.com *The Artist in the Garden, Virginia Beach, VA. Scott Dilatash is the artist in the garden. He is the purveyor of unusual custom landscapes In the Southeast Virginia and Northeast North Carolina area. Call (757) 696-7263 *The Virginia Beach Master Gardeners, Virginia Beach, VA. A fellowship of Certified Master Gardeners in the City of Virginia Beach, sponsored by the Virginia Polytechnic Extension Service. *Pungo Palms Nursery, Virginia Beach, VA. Growers of rare and unusual cold hardy palms, desert plants, citrus, bananas, and other sub tropical plants. The nursery is located in the Back Bay area of Virginia Beach , both Ralph and Kathy Denton will participate in the Expo plant sale. Contact us at: Pungo Palmsfreeserver.com\ or call: (757) 426-3677. The Forth Southeastern Citrus Exposition Fruit Competition Rules and Procedures Fruit Preparation All fruit entered must be grown by the entrant, either in a container or in the ground. Before submission, fruit should be washed and prepared for eating. Remove any pesticide residue. Judges may have to taste fruit in case of a tie. A minimum of three fruit of a specific cultivar must be donated per entry: for example, three Satsuma fruit are required to qualify as one entry. One of the fruit must be cut in half "against the grain (as you would cut a grapefruit) to show the inside of the fruit. (See the illustration above for an example.) Fruit can be returned at the request of the entrant. Fruit must contain at least ½" of stem attached. One fruit should have at least leaf attached to the stem. Check the category sheet to determine proper entry. At the Expo Entries must be submitted between 9:00AM and 10:00 AM. After 10:00AM entries will not be accepted. At registration, you will be given an entry number to ensure anonymity. Make sure that you keep this number with you until the award ceremony. An entry card must be filled out for each entry. Be sure that you put your entry number on each card. Viewing of the fruit will take place from 12:00 to 1:00PM Blue, red, and white ribbons will be awarded for each category. In addition, there will be a "Best in Show, "Honorable Mention", and "Most Unusual" award. Citrus Categories for the Contest There will be a grown-in-ground category and a container-grown category. Any cultivar not listed here will be assigned to a category by the judging coordinator. Sweet Orange Ambersweet Cara Cara Hamlin Naval Parson Brown Pineapple Sour Orange Abers Narrowleaf Bergamot Bigaradier Apepu Boquet des Fleurs Chinotto Citrus neoaurantium Gou Tou Nansho Daidai ( Citrus Tiawanica) Sauvage Seville Smooth Flat Seville Willowleaf Zhu Luan Mandarin Changsha Clementine Clem-Yuz 2-2 Clem-Yuz 3-3 Dancy Juanita Keraji Minneola Tangelo Nasnaran Orlando Tangelo Ponkan Satsuma Shekwasha Kumquat & Hybrids Chang Shou Fukushu Hong Kong Lemonquat Limequat ( Eustis, Lakeland, Tavares) Marmaladequat Meiwa Nagami Nippon Orangequat Procimequat Sunquat Marumi Lemon Lisbon Meyer Ponderosa Sanbokan Ujukitsu Lime Bearss Persian Grapefruit Bloomsweet Duncan Golden Marsh Oroblanco Pink Marsh Ruby Red Thompson Ichangensis Hybrids Ichang Papeda Ichang Lemon Sudachi Yuzu Yuzuquat Yuzvange Trifoliate Orange Standard Flying Dragon Rubidoux Trifoliate Hybrids Citrange (Morton, Troyer, Carizzo, Benton, Rusk, and etc.) Citrumello (Dunstan, Swingle, Changsha x English Large, USDA 80-5, and etc. Citradia Citrandarin (CiClem#10, Citsuma, and etc. Dragon Lime Complex Hybrids Citrangequat ( Thomasville, Sinton, etc.) Glen Citrangedin Razzlequat SancitChang US 119 2006 Citrus Exposition organizers and contacts: Ralph or Kathy Denton, Phone (757) 426-3677 e-mail at: palmlady@cox.net G. Ventura: e-mail ggvm30@aol.com

Snidely - good point about not removing things if they're not causing trouble - lest they turn out to have been needed. So I have left some things that I have no idea about. I did delete Dell Stage - bc. it's a real pain - gets in the way all the time (my daughter who's had this on her laptop for 2 years confirmed that it's just in the way). I did all the microsoft updates, ran a few antivirus, got rid of what I want to get rid of, and it's mostly good to go. Here's the trouble that remains: I can't get the printer working. It's a Canon Pixma MX850 - on the home network. I did not want to install the Canon disk bc. it has a ton of it's own bloatware. So I went to Canon and downloaded the driver - as well as the IJ utility software (I think that helps the computer find a printer on the network). Went to devices and printers, added the printer and made it the default printer. It shows up in printers and devices, but when I go to print something, it fails. Troubleshooting says the test page didn't print bc. something else is in the queue. But there is nothing else in the queue. I opened the queue from my pain desktop (that's connected to the printer) - and there's no documents in the queue. Went to the printer queue on DH's lapto; - it also shows nothing in the queue. I can print from other computers. Don't know what else to do. And I just remembered that I did not see Java. It didnt come up as needing updating when I ran the Secunia scan. I am not sure which programs need it, but can imagine my husband being stumped if he tries to do something that needs Java and asks him to install. I'd like to install it for him. Got to remember that. I also have a question about Microsoft Security Essentials. Twice now it found something bad - and I selected to remove the couple of files. Does this AV just run in the background or do I also need to run scans? Thank you. Lynn.