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oak cabinets covered with grease and dirt

jollyrd
13 years ago

We were given oak cabinets in very good condition - solid, not much surface damage. But they are covered with years worth of layer of grease and dirt/dust -- sort of black greasy coat all over - the doors, the under and over cabinet, all over. There are about 10-15 cabinets. What is a good way to clean them? Soap water? Krud Cutter? any other?

We plan to use them as is - not going to pain or reface. After I manage to clean them I plan to just use proper wood oil treatment to bring the look back to life.

Comments (18)

  • lazy_gardens
    13 years ago

    Start with dishwashing soap, warm water and a stiff nylon brush ... scrub the heck out of them. If any grunge remains, mineral spirits and 0000 Steel woll will get it off.

    Then scuff up the cabinets with 0000 steel wool, wipe them with a rag dampened in mineral spirits and re-stain or put on a coat of gel polyurethane to make then easy to keep clean. That grunge usually dissolved the old finish.

    Look into General Finishes Gel Stain and clear Urethane Gel ... super easy to use and durable.

  • marlingardener
    13 years ago

    Lazygardens gave you good advice. Please don't use a "proper wood oil treatment" because that will leave a surface that will attract grunge and grease. You may want to try Murphy's Oil Soap instead of dishwashing soap. It is formulated for wood surfaces and smells great, too!

  • oilpainter
    13 years ago

    I use lemon oil on my solid oak cabinets. Twice a year I wash using soap and water. I dip my cloth in and wring it out and wash them down. Then I apply the lemon oil, or sometimes teak oil. I start at one end, do them all and then go back and wipe off the excess. Oil conditions the wood which drys out when there is a lack of humidity. I use oil on all my wooden furniture too.

    I disagree with marlingardener It does not attract grunge and grease unless you leave a thick coat on that becomes sticky--which I would never do. I have tried Murphy's oil soap and did not like it at all--I guess to each his own.

  • clt3
    13 years ago

    I wouldn't use a scrub brush, I'd use the Scotchbrite scrubber pads. The lighter the color the less abrasive they are. My mom, a heavy smoker, once cleaned her dining room set with a combination of equal parts of turpentine, boiled linseed oil, and vinegar and it really worked well. It conditioned as well as cleaned.

  • jollyrd
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    Great to know there are people who try things and then share! Thank you. I dont feel like doing too much scratching/sanding/refinishing at this point. Right now I just want to clean them and see what they look under all that dirt. If the condition is fare, I will be happy. I have minimum expectations. They are not for show. They are just a working furniture. One thing I did not mention is that these cabinets will be used in the basement office/kitchen only -- would you suggest any different treatment for maintenance? They are midium color oak - sort of deep honey

  • arkansas girl
    13 years ago

    Murphy's Oil Soap, someone just asked me this same question and I suggested she try this first and it got it off and didn't hurt the cabinets.

  • rozilla
    13 years ago

    I'm with the Murphy's Oil Soap coalition, but your cabinets sound like they need some industrial-strength cleaning. I'd invest in some magic erasers to use with that Murphy's and scrub the heck out of them.

  • jollyrd
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    oh, you have to see THESE cabinets. The only clean side is the side that faces the wall. I started on two short wall cabinets - the smallest of the batch. Purely rhetorical question came to mind "how does anyone LIVE with this mess?" The sticker inside said 1988. First few minutes I thought something half-dead half-alive will jump at me from the dirt. There was about 1/2 inch thick layer of pure "yack!" on what was the top horizontal surface. Murphy's Oil worked good on flat surface, but I ended up using A LOT of it. The grease has turned into a glue over time and is hard to break down. I had to use Krud Kutter and green scotch pad to get the grime out of the crevices in the doors. Some areas appear as if the dirt is burned into the wood and I might have to scatch them a bit, but nothing major. I took the hardware off and washed it and all screws in soapy solution. I am taking pictures, will post before and after later. The only thing that keeps me optimistic is that they are darn strong and solid and it would be a shame to have to send them to trash. The contractor who gave them to me did a great job removing them without too much physical damage. I think I will tackle two long wall cabinets tonight.

  • jollyrd
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    peanutmom - did the steam make "bubles" on the finishing coat or caused a loss of shine of the finish? I dont have steam cleaner but I have steam iron (the one you can use to get rid of wrinkles on curtains and clothes) - I might try that too.

  • peanutmom
    13 years ago

    Sorry to take so long to get back to you. I didn't have any trouble with the finish. I don't think it stays hot long enough to do any damage. It just liquifies the mess, so you have to wipe it right away, but it is worth it. And the best part is that there is no residue to attract any more yuck.

  • jollyrd
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    I will try the small ironing steamer or get me the steam cleaner.

    So far, I am half way done, the biggest cabinets are next to be cleaned. "Enjoy" the show:


    this is what I get in just one scoop

    yes, I think they actually kept their glasses in those cabinets, I wonder if they drank out of them?

    ahh, finally , nice oak

  • Pat z6 MI
    13 years ago

    Wow. How nice. Good for you.

  • covingtoncat
    13 years ago

    Oh barf, I think I just threw up a little! They actually look like nice wood in the last picture. Kudos to you for being willing to take on the job.

  • arkansas girl
    13 years ago

    So what are you actually using that cut through that gunk? Besides the scraper? BTW...that's just crazy how dirty those are! I've never seen such! I start freaking when I see a coating of dust on my furniture!

  • jollyrd
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    DONE! I am happy to be done with this, seriously. I hope you never have to do this. One great find and perfect timing -- bunch of wooden clothes line pins. We just installed simple clothes line to save on dryer use of electricity. There were things in every cabinet - trash, some individual packets of various food and flavorings, individual size bottle of tonic water, - the water color was yellow so I decided not to taste it; mold mold mold, spiderwebs inside and out, under and over, scary! But among that trash there were couple great finds -- old fashion popcorn maker (the one you put on stove and it has lid that flips up on both sides) and hand-crank masher.

    The guy who is re-doing the house says that it takes him longer to work on this house b.c of all the dirt that is attached to the walls and ceiling. Everything has to be cleaned or gutted. I also got the old pane windows from this house -- you cant tell which side was facing inside and which was outside -- they are equally dirty.

    I ended up using various products. I never ended up using the steamer as suggested above. At first I would scrape (gently) the large amounts of that gunk off the plywood surfaces. Then spray everything with grease remover (Krud Kutter or Lysol 4-in-1) and wipe with blue towel what dirt would come off. The tough spots would then get attacked (gently) with a blue spounge (they are not as abbrasive as green) soaked in luke-warm water with all-purpose Green Works soap. Then dry it all out, quick spray of Murphy Oil soap, and wipe, and small rub with Lemon Oil product. I had to wash all hardware - first spray with degreaser then in soapy warm water.

    I think I used one bottle of Krud Kutter, one Lyson, one of Green Works soap concentrate bottle, one of Murpy Oil, about 3-4 spounges and countless number of blue towels on this entire project. Did I mention lots of sweating and sneezing? The wood under all the dirt was actually pretty good so I am glad I dont have to do refinishing - that would be too much to ask of me. The hardest parts were the details on the doors - I had to go over them over and over.
    The hardest cabinet ended up being the last one -- lazy susan. People - clean your lazy susan cabinets regularly - so that the next person after you won't get cuts on their fingers - trying to get under the buttom tray to clean 20 yrs worth of grease.... Yes, I could have took out the entire l-susan assembly but I was so tired at 10 pm on Sunday that I just wanted to get it done and over with. I wrapped all trash in the plastic sheet that was protecting the basement floor and washed the floor. But when that was over, I took a long deserved shower and felt great accomplishment.

    And I got the use of the dry line with the pins found in the cabinets - had to wash the pins first before I could use them, LOL

  • arkansas girl
    13 years ago

    Sheeeeeew...thanks for all the information! Wow! I hope you get some good use from those cabinets, they look really good now!

    Sounds like maybe that steam cleaner would have been the answer.

    It's funny you got some old clothes pins out of it, I ended up having to buy old ones off ebay just to find any good ones that would hold anything. The new ones are SOOOOOORRY!!!!!! They just fall apart! UGH! Made in China junk!

  • ykindschi
    8 years ago

    I wish I would have taken before pictures, and unfortunately I am not done with the project. I am attacking my parent's home. My dad is a smoker, they heat with wood, and have a kitchen without decent exhaust. Forty-six years of living, 2 kids, and my mom is not "housekeeper of the year" by any means, means the cabinets are holding a layer of "who knows what"

    I spent the better part of today taking each door off. The best method I found was taking the Krud Kutter and pouring just enough on the door, spreading it around to "lay" on the top evenly - yes it's a liquid - but it's possible - and letting it sit for 10 minutes before using Magic Eraser and a scrubby (that was way too harsh) to melt away years of grime. I did the two small doors above the range twice. Now they are several shades lighter than the rest. I replaced all the hinges as I rehung them.

    I'm stuck. I don't know what to do to finish. I have 7 more doors and 2 more drawers to clean. Nothing matches. The door scuffs show more. The dings show more. I will wander around Menards or Home Depot and try to find products to finish and restore/unify, but several things come to mind. I wish I had used the Krud Kutter degreaser formula, but they didn't have it at my only hardware store stop that day. I also wish I would have had steel wool, I might have wanted to try Greased Lightning instead. The above references to Mineral Spirits all sound good. The Murphy's Oil Soap people live in a bubble - cuz that stuff would have never even dented the grime I saw today. Plus that stuff has such an off smell, I can't stand it and have never like it in any cleaning project. I avoid like the plague. If I come up with a better plan in the remaining stretch, I will update. Sticking these doors thru a planer and restaining would be the best option - but I'm not seeing that happening. They are solid oak, built by a local carpenter in the 70's, but I absolutely love my IKEA cabinets with the easy to wipe melamine interiors and soft close drawers. I'm hoping at some point these get ripped out and a new kitchen goes in place that can be cleaned with industrial cleaners!!!