2004 FLORIBUNDA ROSE LIST PART 1 Listed below is a very comprehensive up to date listing of Floribunda roses, eligible to be exhibited in a rose show. All are registered with ARS, or assigned an approved exhibition name, "AEN". Many are varieties, which are not listed in the latest "AEN", or other ARS publications. Its a handy reference of information for judges and exhibitors, or anyone just interested in roses that will perform well in their garden, based on reports from people who have grown them over the years. Corrections / Additions / Deletions will be posted, as official information becomes available. Any help in making this list more accurate and beneficial to the user is always welcome. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KEY INFORMATION(1)-ARS "Approved Exhibition Name", AEN. (2)-ARS awards received. (3)-Blooming Habit: P, patio rose of adequate bloom and growth for container growing; CL, climbing variety; HB, hanging basket; G/D, garden / decorative. (4)-Petal age: single 4-11; semi-dbl 12-16; double 17-25; full 26-40; very full 41+ petals. (5)-Bloom Form: HT hybrid teas (exhibition); OGR old garden rose; open; flat; cupped. (6)-Bloom Size Open: Small, under 4cms 1.5"; Medium, 4 to 7 cms 1.5" to 2.75"; Large, 7+ cms 2.75+". (7)-Blooming Habit: BIC, borne in clusters; S, solitary. (8)-Color Classification. (9)-Year the rose was registered. (10)-The latest average national garden & exhibiting ratings: 9.3-10 one of the best; 8.8-9.2 outstanding; 8.3-8.7 excellent; 7.8-8.2 very good; 7.3-7.7 good; 6.8-7.2 average; 6.1-6.7 below average; 0.0-6.0 not recommended. (11)-Growth Habit: SG, spreading / ground cover, BG bushy; CG compact;,UG upright. (12)- Fragrance: A, fragrant or slightly fragrant; B, very fragrant.(13)- Plant Heights: L, under 24"; M, 24 to 36"; T, 36+". *************BY: Ronald Sshwerdt 5-14-04************* A.J. 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Thanks for responding! 1)why flushing? I suppose it's cost savings but I'd have to ask. I'll speak to him about that. 2)not planning on moving within the next 10 years but who knows what's down the pike. DH works for railroad and seniority moves are possible, especially when the kids are older. 3) Consider heat pumps? I've read very little about them. Not a commom installation in my area but that doesn't mean anything when you're talking builder grade. We have NO idea what's involved in installing that. 4) Quality is definitely a consideration for us. This company is local, in business for a long time, and used throughout my community, and highly recommended. I've contacted other companies, but they did not show up for appts. It sounds lazy, but I'm glad SOMEONE thought my business was worth keeping their appt. 5)Flex is very common. We're soley attic installation due to slab only foundations and past building practices. Have never been in a house with soffits for duct work, not that it isn't used somewhere. 6) We're about 25 miles away. Judging by the state of our current system, corrosion isn't a big issue. Humidity control is a huge issue here. For the record, our current unit does a fine job of that and it's single stage and OLD. I've never felt uncomfortable when it's running and I'm a big wimp as far as that's concerned. Grew up in Missouri and not a fan of the summers here, especially since I'm a human space heater. Lived in KCMO before we moved here for DH's job, as a matter of fact. I miss home! Thank you for your opinion. I really like the idea of 2-stage for the efficiency and weather here.

Why I will not buy Marvin Window Products and neither should you. In 2004 we renovated our kitchen, replacing three windows and one door with Marvin Windows. At the time we purchased Marvin because I felt they were high quality. Marvin’s website says, “We are committed to design that is as functional and intuitive as it is beautiful. Crafted with exceptional skill, our products deliver quality you can see, touch, and feel, the beauty that brings joy, and performance that stands the test of time.“ My view of the ‘test of time’ for windows that I put in my home is a long time, decades. Apparently, Marvin’s test is dramatically shorter. Less than 20 years after installation I noticed that the window had rotted all the way through the frame. I am not sure how many years it took to decay, but clearly it did not happen overnight. Their test of time failed quickly. I called Marvin and was told that the warranty is only 10 years. I understand how warranties work and asked for Marvin’s help repairing the window. They said they would not offer any help since they no longer make the model. I called dozens of companies and was told these Marvin windows were not repairable. I am left with one window out of six that failed out of warranty but clearly started failing years ago before the warranty had expired. I now need to replace all of my kitchen windows in order to have a consistent look. I thought that maybe this is a one-time issue and not very widespread. It turns out Marvin lost a class action lawsuit on this very issue. https://www.yourlawyer.com/construction-defects/marvin-windows-lawsuit/. Apparently, their product team feels they can continue to turn out products that do not stand the test of time. Marvin’s marketing department may tell you they are committed to a lot of things but it is clearly a lot of marketing and they do not stand behind the actual quality of their windows. So when you look to purchase windows for your home my strong recommendation is to look at anyone other than Mavin.

Yes, thank you for the advice. I've been reading on-line since picking myself up off the floor.... I've been able to send off requests for Sunrise and Okna. I had them break the quote out. It ran $19,464 for the 17 windows, $6810 for the picture windows and $8384 for the 2 sliders. I've been reading some nice things about the Okna, and was so surprised that those windows rate higher than the fiberglass. I am hoping that I can find something in one of those top end vinyls that will match or come close to my trim. I can't see looking at white windows with all my walnut stained woodwork, trim and baseboard. I can't really find any pictures to look at, but the image in my head is just not pleasant. I'll be back once I get a few more quotes.... Thanks again!!!