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| Hi, Long time lurker, first time posting. Just wondering if there are any other low budget builds going on. It seems many of the threads in the building forum (and others) are geared toward items and price ranges way over our heads. DH is a firefighter and I'm a stay at home mom to a 3.5 year old and a 9 month old. We are getting ready for our first build. We recently sold our 1st home that we renovated and owned for 3 years and are now renting a basement apartment from family while we will be building just down the street. DH has many years of construction experience in framing, tile work, hardwood install, and most general construction prior to and along side his firefighting career. His dad is also a GC but lives 2 hours away so will be helping with the framing and on weekends here and there. Because of DH's schedule of working 8 24-hour shifts per month, he will basically be working full time on the house. We are buying 2.5 acres from my family for $70K. Our build budget is $150K or less. Shooting for $130 ideally. We are almost finished getting all bids together (septic, dirt work, concrete for foundation, lumber, trusses, siding, roofing, insulation, HVAC, electrical, drywall, trim, doors, windows, cabinets, counter tops, and flooring all in) just waiting on plumbing and a few small things like bathroom and lighting fixtures and appliances. We will be meeting with the bank with our estimates and plans in the next 3 weeks. We will be financing pretty much everything, lot and build, so around $200-$220K. House plan is 1800 sq ft, 2 story, 3 bed (4th option/bonus), 2.5 bath. We are subbing out drywall, insulation, HVAC, electrical, rough-in plumbing, and carpet install. DH will pretty much be doing the rest on his own and/or with help from family/friends. Any other low budget builders out there? |
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- Posted by sweet.reverie (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 2:12
| Well we are low budget for our area. We are building for 310K roughly. Not including the land. Most houses in our area are much more expensive and our appraisal came in at over 500K. But my DH is also a firefighter (and we also have two little ones) and doing quite a bit of work himself (installing ikea kitchen and bath, installing hardwoods, installing tile and painting). From what I have read- him doing those things is saving us a ton already. The cost is so dependent on the area- how are the bids coming back? Does it look like you will meet your budget goal? |
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- Posted by flgargoyle (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 6:11
| We're trying to build on a shoe-string too. I'm doing all of the work myself except excavation, septic, and concrete. Our house is ICF, not a cheap way to build, but we wanted a solid, energy-efficient home, and it's a good system for DIY if you can get some advice or experience. A lot of our specs would be considered high-end; ICF, fiber cement siding, metal roof, and good windows. The house is about 1250 sq ft, and will run about $80/ square foot, but there is also a 1250 square foot walk-out basement which is already insulated by virtue of the ICF. It would cost very little additional materials to finish the basement, which doubles the size of the house. I left my job, and live on-site in a barn I built last fall. We're not financing, but have a limited amount of money. When it's gone, we're done, one way or the other! |
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- Posted by EngineerChic (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 9:20
| I don't want to rain on your parade, but have you talked with lenders about financing such a high percentage of building costs? Many lenders are leery of doing this. |
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- Posted by virgilcarter (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 9:21
| It's good to see small houses being planned and built. It can be done, but costs and labor prices vary greatly by geographical area. Some folks can and are able to be their own GC, and some cant't. That's a very challenging, full-time job and not everyone has the personality, trade contacts, knowledge and skill to be their own GC, so it's not something for anyone to think they can do it on their own without the right contacts and skills. There are a number of pre-designed small house sites on the Internet for reference for those looking to build small, and consider for ideas or for the actual plans. When building small, some things to consider: --Do the stair math and select stair design that best fits your age, health, family and functional preferences. Many stairs in stock plans are designed to code minimums and are very steep, as a means of saving floor space. This may be a false savings, depending on one's stair climbing abilities; Good luck on your projects. |
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| @EngineerChic: I probably should have mentioned that the market value of the lot is $110K, so because we are only paying $70K we have $40K equity in the land. We have talked with the bank already and they are fine with financing up to 80% of the estimated value of land + build combined. Bank has also said any labor done by DH, that is savings over subbing, will also count toward equity value. My parents used the same lender/loan officer for their build 3 years ago and had a really smooth process as far as drawing funds easily without questions/excessive paperwork. @sweet.reverie: Wow, it sounds like we have a freakish amount in common, lol. As far as how the bids are coming back so far, I know we will be able to stay under the $150K but we'll see how much we can trim down. Only a few bids were higher than expected (drywall and HVAC) but so far we haven't been looking for the absolute best prices yet, just putting together preliminary numbers for the bank. We know we can cut down in some of the finishings if needed and hopefully we can get some other bids that will be a little less. At this point I have my heart set on SmartStrand carpet, $6/sq ft hardwood, and slab granite counters, but those are all things where we could easily cut quite a bit of $ if needed towards the end. Oh and we are in western WA about half way between Seattle and Canadian boarder. Here is the plan that ours is very closely based on. It is being modified slightly by expanding the front entry and some small things in the interior we will change/customize, only 1 sink in kids' bathroom, adding exterior man door to exit garage on far right side, small changes in master bath. |
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- Posted by GreenDesigns (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 11:22
| My BIL self GC'd a 150K 2000 sq ft. house here in TN, but it's a low cost area of the country. It would be double just about anywhere else. Even so, it's entirely builder grade with no upgrades. Construction drug on and on and cost them a lot in interest that impacted the budget. At the end, the city was in a war with them to get it done to be able to close out the permit so they had to hire some stuff to be done that they thought they were going to do themselves. They manged to close the permit, but there is still so much undone in the house 5 years later. There are still rooms without moldings and that only have primer on the walls. Life gets in the way some times and it takes a LOT more time and effort than most people think to build a house with their own personal involvement. |
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- Posted by AnnieDeighnaugh (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 11:35
| Have you priced out manufactured housing? It certainly goes faster and then all you have to do is "plug the house in" ... Plumbing, electrical.... |
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- Posted by lavender_lass (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 12:27
| Annie- It's a bit more complicated than that...you have to have a contractor level the lot, pour the foundation for the home, connect all your utilities after bringing them from the lot line to the home, and deal with all the 'little things' that don't get done properly during installation. I helped my mom do this and she's very happy with her home...but it was certainly more than plugging it in. For a two story home, a modular home might be another option. The 'shell' is built at the factory to your specs (not an existing plan like manufactured homes) and then the inside is completed on site. I think Bob Vila followed a modular home from set up to completion, on one of his shows. Once the shell is up, it's similar to a stick built home's timeline.
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- Posted by david_cary (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 14:20
| Modular usually means manufactured in a factory so the drywall etc is up at the factory so not at all what LL is describing. Modular can be stock floor plans or it can be custom. But maybe the words have different meanings in other parts of the country. I experimented with modular with a low cost build but the actual cost wound up being higher than stick built. |
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- Posted by AnnieDeighnaugh (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 15:16
| When we were pricing out our home, we found modular more expensive, but not on an apples to apples basis...it is more expensive if, for example, you are comparing 2x4 walls to the 2x6 they need in a modular....but the biggest cost savings comes from financing costs because you are supporting 2 places for a much smaller period of time... LL, I understand that the "plugging it in" was an exaggeration, but certainly there's a lot less for a DIY to do when the house is delivered in assembled boxes than when you have to stick build it yourself...that was my only point. |
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| aporthole-yes there are. :) My dh is a policeman. I was a stay at home mom for many years. I started working part time when both of my boys were in school full time. One of us is always home to get them on and off the bus and we are able to avoid day care completely. I don't see my work status changing for a long time if at all with the crazy schedule dh keeps and the schedules my boys are starting to enter into. We are looking to build a 2,000 sq ft 1 1/2 story around $200-250k not including the land. It's higher than yours but still significantly lower than many around. We aren't as far along as you are. We hope to start on house plans early next spring and go from there. We are also fairly handy and will DIY as much as possible. Because dh has such a non-traditional work schedule that should help dealing with house stuff and being around during the build. I anticipate hiccups and being fully consumed and exhausted by house stuff when it kicks off but I am hopeful we can handle it and will get through it. This too shall pass right? I am sure I will be muttering that a lot! We could not afford to have it built turn key. Doing some of the work ourselves should allow for a few upgrades in finishes. That is the dream anyhow. We are in west Michigan. Please do continue to post. There are a few of us out there in the same budget range.
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- Posted by sweet.reverie (My Page) on Sun, Dec 23, 12 at 17:38
| Ha! We are in WA too! We are practically the same person. :) But we are right by Seattle. Sounds like you have a good handle on things. Have you looked at Lumber Liquidators? You might be able to really save on your hardwoods. |
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| Wow! I'm surprised in W Washington you are able to build for what you are talking... (Sweet.reverie is also W Washington, as I recall, as am I, though we are both closer to Seattle. Still, great that you are finding affordable subs). I like to see houses that are smaller on this board too, because it feels more like what I'd actually be able to do someday. Also, there is a small house forum, which you may want to visit--not so much for build advice, as building is building and you run into things for small and large alike, but because of the way you must live in a smaller house. So, if you haven't stumbled on the small house forum, you might head there and poke around some. |
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- Posted by mrsfireman (My Page) on Sat, Mar 23, 13 at 23:44
| Me! My hubby is also a firefighter, and I, a stay at home mom with 2 little ones ,3 and 1:) We plan and doing most of it ourselves on a building budget of 200k. |
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- Posted by mrsfireman (My Page) on Sat, Mar 23, 13 at 23:44
| Me! My hubby is also a firefighter, and I, a stay at home mom with 2 little ones ,3 and 1:) We plan and doing most of it ourselves on a building budget of 200k. |
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- Posted by sweet.reverie (My Page) on Sun, Mar 24, 13 at 0:15
| I wonder what it is about firefighters and building houses, I have met quite a few that have. For DH I guess it is the time off. So funny that all three of us are so similar in our situations. Maybe the OP will come back and update on her build :) |
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- Posted by sparkler39 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 24, 13 at 0:40
| My husband and I are both music teachers though he is a public school teacher and I am a private lessons teacher. We live in a rural area (and he commutes about an hour to a better school district) so houses and building houses are a little cheaper. If we lived in the county where he teaches we would literally be lucky to afford a shack. We live about 90 minutes away from DC near Skyline Drive and Shenandoah National Forest. We are currently waiting to break ground on our first home which will be $250K (lot included). I'm thrilled to find a thread with people building similarly to us! |
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- Posted by kittykatzchen (My Page) on Sun, Mar 24, 13 at 8:31
| My husband and I are building a 4 bedroom, 2086 sq ft home on a 1/3 acre subdivision lot backing to preserve land for $175,000 including the land in southeast Ohio. We are DIYing many of the tasks such as painting, landscaping and finish work to stay in that budget. We have also stuck to budget finishes in many areas, such as vinyl siding for the exterior and vinyl flooring and laminate countertops in the kitchen. We are about halfway through our build and should be ready to move in by June 1st. Its nice to see other low budget builds on this board. I've wanted to share pictures or plans on this site many times, but have always hesitated out of fear that the house my husband and I love will be ripped apart by those spending and building 2-4 times what we are. |
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| I would normally be one who discourages the idea, but my brother in law is a firefighter too and amazes me with the things that he has accomplished on his off time. Most of his firefighter buddies seem to have the same skills. If your dh is anything like these guys..... So who knows. Your plan is very conservative, but nice. Good luck. |
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| Just a comment about the windows in your plan: This looks like a plan that was designed for a home built on a small lot, close to other homes -- there are no windows on the side walls, aside from the one over the tub. You are on acreage -- wouldn't you like to be able to look out over your land? Could you add some side windows? |
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| Yes, the schedule of a firefighter is pretty hard to beat and having a handy hubby is pretty nice, too. Not a ton to update at this point. We were hoping to finance through Northwest Farm Credit but things ended up not working out with them. We are technically building through hubby's contractor dad so we have a large portion of gifted labor from FIL and hubby's labor as well. In WA Farm Credit does NOT do owner-builder so their underwriters were put off by the situation even though on paper we have a GC. Part of the problem also had to do with FIL didn't pass Farm Credit's Contractor credit approval due to a short sale on a personal home 7 years ago. -Washington Federal on the other hand has been great to work with since they do all financing in house and do owner-builders. We are on track for our loan (for lot and construction) to close by April 15th. My mom and step-dad built through them 3 years ago as well as 2 other local friends in the last couple years. -We've increased our build budget up to $160,000 with $15K of that designated toward updating the detached garage + 900 sq ft shop currently existing on the property. It needs a new roof and some siding replacement, so we will be re-siding the front to match the house, re-panting to match, re-insulating and drywalling in the shop. The shop has current electric, plumbing, gas and even it's own septic system. It was used as a business in the '80s but has been vacant for over 20 years since my family acquired the land. We are planning to convert the shop to a 1 bed, 1 bath guest house and will finish it out with personal funds as our budget allows. Estimate for the new home is looking right around $145,000. |
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| Chibimimi, regarding the windows: Yes, the plan was for a sub-division. We are trying to save money by sticking to the stock plan as much as possible and generally I think this plan meets our needs pretty well. If I were to have a custom plan drawn up we would do things a little differently. The way the house is situated, the back side of the house is facing south, so we will get most of our light and views that direction. Because of the layout of the house, the only place an additional window might be nice is in the living room to the left of the fireplace. Not sure how it works with building permits and adding windows not included in the plan, but it may be something we consider adding if it won't effect permits. |
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- Posted by sparkler39 (My Page) on Sun, Mar 24, 13 at 18:56
| Kittykatzchen, Congratulations on your build! I am also going with some of the budget finishes in my home with the hope that I might upgrade in the future. But I'm just thrilled that I'm getting to build my own home and not having to, either, buy someone else's 'vision' or get a prefab national build house in a cookie-cutter neighborhood. And to be honest, some of the builder finishes aren't that bad when I get to personally select the color or finish. In the house I'm currently renting, there are builder finishes (and landlord DIY) EVERYWHERE and the house is so horribly mismatched and in ugly colors. But I totally understand your feelings on sharing on the forum. I had that experience last week when I decided to ask for opinions on a floorplan and instead received comments telling me how horrible my house was going to be. I was very close to deleting my original post and not visiting the site again until I received a comment from someone who was incredibly encouraging. I kinda think the majority of the people commenting may be building houses 2-4 times more expensive than yours or mine BUT there ARE some like-minded people and there are people who may be building houses 2-4 times more expensive but they're kind and realize that you do what you can. I, personally, would love to see your house photos! :) I've just learned to ignore the negative posts and remember that their budgets are greater than mine and they won't be living in my house. While I did get some good advice, I know what I'm building will work wonderfully for me and my husband and in the end, that's all that's important! :) Good luck on the rest of your build! |
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- Posted by sweet.reverie (My Page) on Mon, Mar 25, 13 at 12:03
| We used WA Fed too and have been very happy! And I would not worry what other's think. If you are happy, that is what matters ultimately. |
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- Posted by Renovator8 (My Page) on Mon, Mar 25, 13 at 12:26
| Always sub out roofing and wood floor finishing. |
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| We are getting ready to start building our home in upstate NY we were able to score family land and made a pretty big profit from our first fixer upper, so I'm fortunate enough to have a good start. We have a different philosophy and some ideas that you may find useful. We ended up using an architect, which was $5k but well worth it for us. We're aiming for putting bulk of our money towards the core of the house, meaning a geothermal system,radiant floor heating, and quality windows and and basically skimping on any eye candy that can be upgraded without too much headache later. We compensated by keeping the house simple in regards to shape and roof lines, basically a Greek revival farmhouse with a shed roof of the back. The roof is essentials a 3 gable ends with no dormers and a stand alone shed roof off the back. Keeping it simple has helped out alot, it's easier to estimate materials, labor is cheaper and faster without having many ins and outs to slow them down. To save money we have a couple ideas, we're close to an Amish community that have some excellent builders available, they aren't always cheaper but they're reliable and can frame a house in 7-9 days, you pay them in cash daily. I also plan on tackling some of the work myself. I'm an electrician by trade and the brother in-law to a family of masons to install blocks in basement (cinder blocks saved a lot of $), I saw no need to go with icf's as its not a big deal to me to insulate basement walls myself. have no experience installing radiant floor heating but have put in several large ice melting systems commercially using the same method (will sub out the manifold connections. I also hope to install my own septic and dig the trenches for the geothermal, if all goes well this will save me roughly $15k. Thankfully my wife has the same taste as I do and would rather plop a reclaimed sink into an antique dresser from a local salvage store than spend a fortune on vanities and fixtures. Old stair dowels and salvaged gutter hooks cost $12 and are stronger than a $40 brass towel bars. We went with a walk in pantry with open shelving at end of kitchen in order to reduce the linear footage of cabinets as I think they are extremely overpriced sometimes. I'm currently hoping to find a quality cabinet company to sell me their cabinets without doors and make our own using barnboard. I know better than to cheap out on a high quality cabinet when I have my 3 kids slamming them all day. Keeping my molding simple and light fixtures in check. I've saved some of the gas station fixtures I've removed from the factories to use in our kitchen (I liked the way they turned out in my last home) . Again many aesthetics can be swapped out down the road so I'm out to save in this area. Sorry for long post, our way is not for everybody and if I had more resources maybe it'd be different, but hopefully it'll help you a little bit. Finally, I'm not a firefighter, but If the several members who mentioned they are married or related to one could give them a big "thanks" for putting their lives on the line day in and day out. |
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- Posted by mrsfireman (My Page) on Wed, Mar 27, 13 at 0:32
| Ibewye, would you mind sharing your floor plan? Thanks! |
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| Mrs fireman, I'll gladly have that up tomorrow, as its almost 2 am here and alarm goes,,off at 5am. Good Night |
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| I too am a long time lurker (about 6 years now) and we’re finally in the process of building the house I’ve been working on (in my mind) all these years. For a long time it was hard to get a clear idea about whether or not we could afford to build. I needed to come in around $100 per square foot but everyone seemed to say that wasn’t really possible unless you were incredibly lucky or resourceful or had a lot of experience. I’m happy to say that our build (including everything but the land) is coming in around $107 per square foot and while we had to compromise on some things that we might have liked (i.e. going with laminate countertops), for the most part we are getting finishes that I am very happy with. You’re looking to come in under $83 per square foot, but you’re going to be doing a lot of the work while we’re not. |
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- Posted by Bethanysmom (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 1:39
| We are planning to build a 2,000 square foot house for less than $90,000. Some people may think that sounds crazy, but we already own the land and are going to be doing all the interior work ourselves. We live in the country, so we don't have strict building codes to worry about. We're in AR and have access to affordable building materials. I'm a seriously frugal shopper and have a knack for finding building supplies (and everything else) very cheap. I'm not concerned at all about higher end finishes - this will be a comfortable, country family home. We have worked a long time to get to this point and are planning to pay cash for our house as we don't want to take on additional debt at this point in our lives. I've already talked with a few builders as to what it would cost to get "in the dry" (outside done, inside only with framing, electrical, plumbing and subfloors.) First bid was around $80,000, so that would leave us about $10,000 to finish the inside. I also have a friend who has built two houses for his family himself, and he is going to help us as well. I am going to serve as the contractor myself. My advice is to not worry about what anyone else thinks about building a house on a budget - you are the ones paying for it and the lucky people who get to live in it once it's done! |
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- Posted by GreenDesigns (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 7:59
| Just remember that building codes are state adopted, even if there are no local inspection and enforcement of them. They are the minimum allowable rules that affect your family's safety and comfort. Nothing says you can't build better than code minimums, especially since you will be spending the extra time to DIY. And if you do want to insure the home, your insurer will want assurances that it IS code compliant. |
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- Posted by Bethanysmom (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 8:58
| GreenDesigns - Absolutely! While we are most certainly going to be cutting corners on finishes and doing a lot of the work ourselves, we are not compromising when it comes to our safety. We also want the house to be energy efficient. Thanks for your comment! |
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- Posted by cleanfreak0419 (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 10:38
| Bethanysmom-- I do not see you finishing the inside of your 2000 sq ft house with only $10,000. If you went with $4.00 Sq ft flooring it would cost $8000.00 alone. (4.00 x 2000) = $8000.00 Perhaps it will be a bit cheaper flooring at $1.00 or even $2.00, but that puts you at $2000.00-$4000.00 for flooring. Cheap Interior doors will cost you $55.00 each Cabinets? Counter tops? Appliances? moldings? Paint? Lights? Plumbing Fixtures? As you can see, the bulk of the cost is really on the interior of the home. I am not saying you can't build 2000 sq ft for $90K. I have done it 100 times over, but you need to get the "shell" bid way down or you are not going to be close to making it. Hope this helps. |
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- Posted by OntarioMom (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 12:53
| We are also acting as owner builders, but not doing that much DIY aside from hiring/managing /paying the subs (and chief garbage haulers). Our family of 6 has stayed living in the home while a large house addition was added, and much of the existing house was gutted. The worst, of course, was the cold temperatures as we are in the process of switching to in floor heat so have not had a furnace during this past winter. (and we are in Canada). The project has dragged on for sure, but in a way that has bought us time to make the many decisions. I am not sure I would have liked making 20 decisions a day with an impatient GC needing immediate answers. Given we are both school teachers, the school holidays do afford us blocks of business hours to get things done. However, in between holidays our work progresses very slowly. As per adding windows after permits, I would strongly urge the OP to consider some side windows. It makes such a huge difference to have windows in rooms on two sides of the house. We added a few more windows than what was on our permit, and that was fine with our City. You just have to pay attention to percent of allowable openings. However, with your big property you should not have many restrictions on openings. Good luck to all those trying to keep costs down by DIY, acting as owner builders, or keeping the build on tight budgets. This too shall pass and we will all have lovely homes to live in. Carol |
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- Posted by Bethanysmom (My Page) on Fri, Mar 29, 13 at 18:11
| Cleanfreak0419 - Thanks for your feedback! I really do appreciate it! I should've included in my original post that we do already have quite a bit of building supplies, etc already - things like flooring, light fixtures, trim, appliances, paint, etc. So, the $10k budget isn't really representative of the total cost to finish out the interior, just what I hope the remaining things we have to purchase would come to. In my last job, I oversaw construction of a public facility that had a budget of about $650,000 (almost 7,000 sq ft), and I am almost finished with doing extensive remodeling to a house we were renting out (renters did about $30,000 worth of damage to a $75,000 house, but the majority of that was labor as our insurance covered paying someone to do the work - we are selling it!) While building a home is new to me and I certainly have a lot to learn, I hope that what I learned from those two projects and helping my family build our home as a teenager will come in handy with building our house. But, I am certainly open to any suggestions, ideas, comments! |
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- Posted by cleanfreak0419 (My Page) on Mon, Apr 1, 13 at 17:20
| Bethanysmom-- You are welcome. If I read your post correctly, it looks as if the only items left to purchase will be the cabinets and countertops and perhaps plumbing fixtures? These (3) items alone can be very expensive. It will depend on whether or not you use granite, formica, etc.....and what type of cabinets you choose. Also, |
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| I think a person with a 150K budget is far from alone . . . it just seems like it on this board because a number of people are building large, upscale houses, and it's easy to get the idea that "everyone's building these". Also, quite a few people are clearly still in the "just dreamin'" stage (because they bounce around between wildly differing ideas, and that's okay when you're still just dreamin') and will end up cutting back when they begin to discuss real budgets with real builders. My husband and I are looking at something in the neighborhood of a 200K budget (to include an in-ground pool), which goes a long way when you already own the land, when you're in a low cost of living state, and when you are willing to take some cost-cutting measures. I have no doubt this is do-able. |
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| I think a person with a 150K budget is far from alone . . . it just seems like it on this board because a number of people are building large, upscale houses, and it's easy to get the idea that "everyone's building these". Also, quite a few people are clearly still in the "just dreamin'" stage (because they bounce around between wildly differing ideas, and that's okay when you're still just dreamin') and will end up cutting back when they begin to discuss real budgets with real builders. My husband and I are looking at something in the neighborhood of a 200K budget (to include an in-ground pool), which goes a long way when you already own the land, when you're in a low cost of living state, and when you are willing to take some cost-cutting measures. I have no doubt this is do-able. |
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