We are doing electrical plans right now. Just trying to figure out how many we need and where we need them?

thanks!

No at the new build, which has a reach in pantry.

This house has a pantry, kind of. It is a NARROW closet, I assume a broom closet, that has shelves the entire height, we have no outlet in there and we have never missed one.

The countertop is butcherblock. We bought pre-made and cut down to fit space/the table. The table is 27" deep. Great for a plate while cooking something in the toaster or setting down grocery bags.

The pantry was originally a closet for a bedroom, but during the planning stages we turned the bedroom into a sunroom. (We have three additional bedrooms on the lower level and two on the main, so we really didn't need a another one. Plus, I love having windows on three walls - since we're on a point, we have a water view on three sides. ) So by moving the door to the opposite wall, it became a great pantry.

I almost put in a sink for the coffeemaker to go in there too, but we have a coffee station between the kitchen and the laundry room. I really like seeing it every time I come in from the garage. In hindsight, I wouldn't change a thing.

I have pictures here and there. I post to Building, Decorating and Kitchens. But if you've seen the ones at AM, you've seen the kitchen. (I do need to take new pictures and replace those from when we just moved in!) In building, if you search "mortar wash" a few threads will come up with pictures of the outside.

Clothes closets have very specific restricions on light fixtures and required clearances.

These do not apply to pantry type closets.

Our WIC is 7.5 x 9.5 and he wouldn't put one next to the door either - even though no rod on that wall. Maybe b/c we could hang clothes at the end of the rod on wall next to it?

What *is* code (or is there one) for size of "room" and outlets? I know you're supposed to have one on every wall over 24" wide, but who says which side of the door it has to be on?

Habitable rooms.

Closets are not habitable (note they have no egress requirement either).

Any wall section over 24 inches wide must have receptacles located so that no place on the wall is more than 6 feet from a receptacle.

This also does not apply to halls. They are only required to have a single receptacle.

Outlets are *required* in habitable rooms - is there code restricting them from being placed in closets or pantries (of any size)?

Closets (including walk in clothes closets) have strict rules about the locations of outlets (and outlets covers receptacles and light).

Any place that equipment is connected (or can be connected) to the permanent wiring is an outlet.

A receptacle is one kind kind of outlet, a permanent light fixture is another.
Cord and plug connected loads connect to a receptacle outlet.
Where a hard wired load connects to the permanent wiring is an outlet.

Panties are not covered under the clothes closet rules.

Food is not considered as much of a fire risk as cloth.

The clothes closet rules are VERY strict.
The AHJ is not very likely to believe you are not going to use a closet in a mud room to store clothes (like jackets) and is liable to enforce the clothes closet rules as much as they can.

I have hooks for backpacks, pegs for clothes (and baskets for mittens). We store the coats we aren't currently wearing (winter coats when we're just wearing jackets, rain coats except when it's wet) in huge coat closet in foyer.

Now, since I have the shelf/rod in the broom closet, I *do* tend to put clothes that need to be ironed in there, hang ones that need to air dry over the washer. But if I didn't have the rod, then I wouldn't hang *anything* in there.

What *are* the clothes closet rules? I was thinking of adding a receptacle to the WIC for a vacuum cleaner.

It is then a clothes closet and falls under the restrictions for one.
Linen closets do also, and they rarely have rods.

It is the danger of heat from the light igniting flammable clothes and items stored on shelves that the code is trying to guard against.

Exposed bulbs are not allowed in light fixtures, and there are rather large clearances required to rods and shelves to prevent flammable material from being placed to close to lighting.

The hooks, pegs, and baskets are out in the mudroom, *not* in the closet, that's why I said I didn't need the rod/shelf the builder put in. The only things on the shelf in the closet are the baseboard that was cut for the closet but not installed and the vacuum cleaner attachments. Vacuum cleaner, Swiffer (that needs to charge) and mops are on the floor and hanging clothes/coats there gets in the way of the handles (though as I said we sometimes hang things that need to be ironed in there until we can get it done). So can I take the shelf/rod out and put a receptacle in? Right now it's more dangerous to leave the Swiffer plugged in outside the closet and risk someone closing the door on the cord.

Sorry brickeye, it just made me laugh so I had to be sure others saw it as well. Who doesn't need a good laugh these days :)