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| First of all let me state that, I'm mostly happy with the basics on this plan currently. I'm mostly interested in any small suggestions that would make it better. The footprint of the home is the absolute biggest it can be currently on the main floor. There are a number of easements on the left side of the image, hence the funny jogs in the walls on this side. We're a couple in our 30's with no kids and absolutely none in the future. We've tried to keep all the essentials on the main floor for when we get older. The laundry room is there and rather large for storage of everyday needs. My husbands office is in front of the master. The space as you enter from the garage will be a small mudroom with hooks and a bench. The tandem garage doesn't bother us as we're a one car family and the public transportation/location of the home will make it very easy to continue to be as such.
The odd shape of the lot really limits what you can do here I think. The back of the property looks out onto a wooded area. One desire I have is to have my own little desk space separate from my DH, so I've planned to currently have that right against the back wall, in the open floor plan area looking out onto the deck/woods. The corner fireplace likely won't be staying as such. I have the desire to put an indoor outdoor model such as the lennox montebello see through fireplace on the back wall at a comfortable distance from that corner. The basement level is a daylight basement. The image shown will change as we need more useable space for a hot tub and i've told the architect to take it out of the right most room which we plan to leave unfinished anyway. The basement includes a guest bedroom and the large room leading out to a patio we intend to use for exercise or maybe a rec room. So please suggest any little tweaks or design ideas to make the most of the space and rooms I have. Any problems that my hours of staring at this thing havn't caught? Appreciate the help and hopefully the image is readable for you all. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Mainfloor
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sat, Aug 4, 12 at 20:52
| While the image uploaded is quite big, not sure why its showing so small in the body of the message. The linked image should give detail as far as dimensions. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Lower floor
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- Posted by SummerfieldDesigns (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 0:42
| unless you are determined to build this , i think that a much better plan could be conceived ... even with the restrictions of your property ... you have a lot of wasted space , and the garage placement is going to prohibit natural light where you need it most ... master wardrobe is also poorly located ... if you can post a plot plan that shows the buildable area , i'll see what i can do to help ... thanks :-) |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 3:48
| I'd be delighted to see what you come up with. Regarding the placement of the garage, I have some doubt as to whether or not the builder will really allow it to be changed. I'm going to provide a couple of outlines and the plat map of the area (we are lot 13). These homes are squeezed very close next to each other. There will be a home and a very tight alley between that side of the property, and the next. The builder is very specific about wanting to provide privacy even tho these homes are crammed right together. For reference the area labeled Tract H is a lovely little community garden complete with water feature. We hoped to get a decent view of this with our home office there in front with windows wrapping all the way around. And again behind the property is wooded area with tract B that wraps around our property being a sidewalk/walking trail. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Plat map
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 3:53
| This is an outline the builder gave us for the build area for the side by side 2 car garage. I really hated the way the 2 car garage crammed the right side indoors.. I didn't even play with this outline long. There is a 5' easement along the front of the curve that isn't shown with a dimension here, it will be visable on the next outline I believe. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Nontandem garage
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 4:00
| Here is the Tandem garage outline the builder originally sent me. We worked off this one to come up with what I originally posted. If you reference back to the original plat map there is another easement line not reflected here that cuts across the front corner of the lot that I believe we took into consideration when we did the shape of the front office. Its a challenging lot for sure :d |
Here is a link that might be useful: Tandem Garage outline
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 4:27
| I might mention a few of our needs we had when we originally came up with this design as well. A large non windowed wall for what we term our "jumbotron". We desire an entertainment wall capable of having a large screen TV and other goodies in our main living area. The flatscreen above the fire will definitely not work for us..I hate it! Extra large shower easily capable of 2 ppl showering simultaneously was non negotiable with the DH. |
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| How many people will live here? And, is it "just" a home, or also an office for work? (as in, a place of business as well?) Do you entertain? Other lifestyle things you can add to make it more apparent how we might help you "see" and "feel" how it will live, would be helpful. |
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- Posted by hollysprings (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 12:29
| A single bedroom home will have zero resale value. That might not be important to you, but there isn't a bank in the world that will finance something with zero resale value. If you build this, it will have to be a 100% cash build. And then really really hope that nothing in your life changes where you need to move such as health issues or job losses. |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 15:05
| We're just 2 people, and no that won't change unless something happens with our parents we can't foresee. Yes my husband wants the option to work from home. The large office in the front of the main floor plan is his and where he intends to do that as needed. As is, the plan has 2 bedrooms and an unfinished 3rd, the master on the main level and a guest bedroom on basement level. We're mostly very private people and large gatherings/entertaining isn't something we've ever done in our 10 years of marriage. We will be in a state away from family however, so the guest accommodations in the basement will house out of town visitors on the rare occasions that we have them. I don't foresee having more than 2 guests at a time staying with us as I'm an only child and my husbands family is large but not tight knit. My husband is a very techy individual and our pastimes include gaming and movies (hence the requirement for a decent wall space for such tasks). He also has an affinity for music and me a passing fancy for billiards. We tried to keep this in mind when leaving the large open space in the basement, which is large enough to use as a multipurpose rec room. The community has a very european/tudor feel to it which we love. The builder has incorporated decks with wrought iron railings, turreted roof designs, arched top windows and such. Myself (and the hubby) love the gothic architectural style and plan to incorporate it on the outside and the inside of the home. Wrought iron chandeliers where applicable, gothic top windows on the front office, groin vaulted ceiling in the master, old world textured plaster on the walls on main level... The plain square box this home will not be!
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- Posted by hollysprings (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 17:56
| As I said, if you are doing a cash build, you can do purpleheart and ebony checkerboard floors and dungeon chains to hold suit of armor lighting sconces if that floats your boat. If a bank is involved, they want something with more mainstream appeal in case you default on the loan and they end up owning it. NOW is the time to talk to banks about this, not after you've spent untold hours planning something that cannot be built. |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 5, 12 at 18:32
| Fair enough. Financing is not a factor for us honestly. Its a truly custom home with certain parameters set forth by the builder such as elevation. Resale is still something we're keep at the back of our minds though. At the end of the day however we'll tailor this home to us not the masses if it comes down to choices that can't be had both ways. |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Tue, Aug 7, 12 at 16:15
| Just a quick bump in case any small tweaks can be suggested to the floorplan as it is now. I know Summerfield will later dazzle us with the possibilities of this odd shaped triangular lot! |
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- Posted by SummerfieldDesigns (My Page) on Sun, Aug 12, 12 at 0:05
| tweaked your plan a bit ... not sure if this would work for you , but maybe it will offer some possibilities ... |
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- Posted by gaonmymind (My Page) on Sun, Aug 12, 12 at 0:35
| Wow Summerfield! This is sooo nice. I think my new hobby is searching for your makeovers. The only very minor thing I would change out is putting the range on the wall between the two windows and putting the prep on the sink. But that is just my preference. |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 12, 12 at 16:11
| Very cool design Summerfield! It has possibilities and elements we can definitely use. I'll run it past DH and thanks again for taking the time! |
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| I was intrigued by your space and shape limitations so decided to play around with it and see what I could come up with. I love Summerfield's design but am a bit concerned that, at 33-6, the tandem garage may not be large enough to fit two cars in. That might not be a problem for you since you indicate you're a one-car family, but it could be a problem for a potential buyer. Figured it couldn't hurt for you to see another possible option. Do wish I had Summerfield's cool software tho... |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Mon, Aug 13, 12 at 20:27
| Darn him, builder informs me code requires 20 ft setback to the garage (I guess if you look really close on the tandem outline this can be seen, I missed it entirely). And a 2 car garage is a requirement on this site which may pack a 40 ft requirement on garage to boot. Still going to send the alternate design at him but by the time the requirements are met our original plan might become more a necessity. Still liked the concepts, took better advantage of the wooded view out back >< |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Mon, Aug 13, 12 at 20:32
| Thanks for the input Bevangel, Going over it now. looks good and turns out you might have been spot on with the garage observation (see above post lol). |
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| I hope they don't insist on 40 ft depth! Going up to 36'9" really puts a constraint on what can fit in the space at the back of the garage. No way you can put a kitchen behind a 40 ft deep garage like Summerfield's design has. Even fitting a master bath back there could be problematic. If you like what I did earlier, let me know and I'll be happy to try to massage it to meet any other limits builder should come up with.
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Tue, Aug 14, 12 at 2:04
| I'll talk to the builder and see if he will go for a 37 ft garage. It will shrink up a kitchen back there and we'd lose the gigantic pantry/mudroom summer has in her design if we go that route. Would necessitate a combined laundry/mudroom but DH and I are arguing about that and more atm :) I'll post again once I know more about what code will let us get away with there. |
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| If I'm reading your drawing correctly, you have a 72'0" lot line on the left side. The garage must be set back 20'0" and you have to leave a 3'0" setback at the back edge. So, subtracting 23'0" from 72'0" leaves you just 49'0" for the depth of the house on the left side. Even if the builder allowed you to have a 33'6" deep garage as shown on Summerfield's plan, I don't think it would fit on you lot because, as drawn, the plan is 54' deep. Even if the builder agrees to a 37'0" deep garage, that leaves you with LESS than 12ft of useable space behind the garage. Remember that you have to account for wall thicknesses and you have at least three walls (Front garage wall where the garage doors are, wall at the back of the house, and wall between garage and house) With 2x4 framing, those three walls will take up about one foot of your available depth leaving you just 11 foot of useable room behind the garage. With 2x6 exterior framing, you would lose another 4 inches leaving you with just 10'8" back there. It is certainly possible to have a kitchen just 10'8" to 11'0" deep...but I don't think you can make it an "island kitchen". If your builder (or the your neighborhood covenants and restrictions) require that your tandem garage be 40' deep, you'll basically have just 7 feet deep space back there. Okay for a closet, a bathroom, or a laundry room...but not much else. |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Wed, Aug 15, 12 at 16:06
| Spoke with our builder yesterday, He says the garage setback is non negotiable and has to go back to the way it was. But the definition of a 2 car garage is negotiable as long as we don't step into the realm of a 1 car garage. 36 ft is a reasonable minimum he suggested. I'm playing with ideas now trying to incorporate better use of the back of the home while preserving some of the architectural flare we really like from the first plan. We really like the office as it was as well as the spiraling staircase down. I do realize its an inefficient use of space but it really fits what we want the home to be. Another thing is a square or rectangular bedroom so we can easily have our groin vault in that room. Trying to take form and function and meet somewhere in the middle atm! If I get something I'm reasonably happy with I'll throw it up for more critique. |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Thu, Aug 16, 12 at 19:52
| This is my meeting in the middle floorplan at the moment. Thanks a ton for the inspiration you guys contributed to getting us something more workable. I think we're both thrilled that I took the time to post on this site. Tho the architect/builder might be less than thrilled, suppose I should have done it sooner >< |
Here is a link that might be useful: Floorplan revision
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Fri, Aug 17, 12 at 17:55
| Some interesting points there Bevangel, thanks for the feedback. Note also the link I have on each floorplan. That should open up a much larger detailed image. <3 photobucket |
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- Posted by niteshadepromises (My Page) on Sun, Aug 19, 12 at 6:14
| After doing some graphing of your ideas in my program, husband I really like what you've suggested Bevangel. I can really see what you mean about the sight lines now that I see it in the 3d rendering, your way versus ours. We're going to talk to the builder about it today. As long as moving the staircase isn't a dealbreaker for any reason with the builder or the architect (which is on our dime even if he needs to redo some things), I can see your design working out for us. Thanks for offering feedback on our less than optimal feature! I realize this plan isn't what many would make it into, but still taking the time to feedback and keep that element of it means the world to us! Will update the thread with the outcome if the builder agrees and I have a more solid drawing on it. He'll probably have some input/suggestions too as he's acting as our designer. |
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