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When to lock rate for Perm Financing?

txaggieinargyle
11 years ago

When did you lock your rate to convert from a construction loan to permanent Financing?

I have an option to lock in at 3.5% (30 yr fixed) for a 75 day lock. I am probably 45 days from completion on the house.

I am staying with the same lender that did the construction loan so I took advantage of their "one Time close option" on the original loan. My only closing costs on this loan will be about $400 conversion fee. No points no origination.

Will rates get better? How much? I know they are at an all time low right now.

Comments (16)

  • pbx2_gw
    11 years ago

    They aren't going to get much better than 3.5%.
    Too dangerous to float that long out - 45-75days.

    I would just lock & call it a day.
    My conversion is $750 so you are getting a good deal @ $400

  • pbx2_gw
    11 years ago

    Sorry meant to say that too dangerous to float as you get below 45 days & definitely 30 days.

    Great rate btw- you are basically getting the best execution rate!

  • brickeyee
    11 years ago

    Crystal balls have never been know to be very reliable.

  • txaggieinargyle
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    I locked in, don't know what i was thinking.

  • pbx2_gw
    11 years ago

    You did fine.
    Relax & enjoy the new house to come!

  • auroraborelis
    11 years ago

    Fantastic rate! I'm jealous!

    Can I ask what bank you used?

  • Xclusive
    11 years ago

    I would say locking it wasn't a bad move but at the same time who really knows. People say that rates can't get much lower but the same people were saying the samething when rates were in the 5's, the 4.5's, 4.0's, 3.5's and so on. Rates have been down to 0 in Japan, a little different dynamic but thats another convo for another forum. We could have gotten 3.5% but locked in at 3.75% with builder paying closing cost so we are ok with that. I guess its a gamble you have to feel comfortable with. We were happy when we folded so I guess thats all that matters (unless I see rates get in the 2's) :)

  • kirkhall
    11 years ago

    I think I heard somewhere that cost to the bank is about 3.25% So, I think if we see in the 2's, for a 30 yr fixed rate, the world will be about to end (or at least banking).

  • pbx2_gw
    11 years ago

    Agreed kirkball, we'd have bigger problems if rates get into the 2's.
    When no1 is making or spending money...eeek!

  • txaggieinargyle
    Original Author
    11 years ago

    We used a local bank

    Town square mortgage in southlake, tx

  • auroraborelis
    11 years ago

    Ah, I'm jealous of everyone on GW who has small local banks willing to do construction loans, especially ones that convert to a 30 year mortgage!

  • dekeoboe
    11 years ago

    Laura - you could move to somewhere with a small local bank LOL

  • auroraborelis
    11 years ago

    :) Hmm... Let me think about it!! ha

  • david_cary
    11 years ago

    From my understanding the spread from the 10 year T bill is very high right now so there is actually some downside potential.

    Of course the T bill has risen a lot recently from all time low of 1.38 to 1.56. Germany has been as low as 1.1% this month and Japan last I saw was .75.

    But the T-bill and rates question is a little bit of slight of hand anyway. Banks sell the vast majority of mortgages to a quasi government agency anyway. They can make money on the fees and be happy. The rate that Fannie Mae pays can be as close to zero as the government wants so they can make money on 1% loans in this environment. For a while....

    Certainly the rates can be 2.5%. When Greece leaves the Euro, I would bet we will see rates hit new lows. The upside potential on rates is very low.

    Now an election result could change anything.

  • gaonmymind
    11 years ago

    Laura12 - I used a national bank.

  • auroraborelis
    11 years ago

    gaoonmymind - what bank did you use?