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how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

Posted by mcfromct (My Page) on
Tue, Aug 9, 11 at 10:29

How long would a kitchen island need to be to comfortably fit 4 stools on the long side? I'm thinking at least 8-ft which is huge. Is that correct?


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RE: how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

Yes that's correct, and could be even more depending on how high the counter is. According to the National Kitchen and Bath Association (and I'm not saying this has to be taken as Gospel, just some helpful guidelines):

Minimum clearances for each seated diner are:
- 30" high tables/counters: 30" w by 19" d counter/table space with at least 19" of clear knee space.
- 36" high counters: 24" w by 15" d counter/table space with at least 15" of clear knee space.
- 42" high counters: 24" wide by 12" deep counter space with 12" of clear knee space.

If you don't have legs or a solid return / panel at the end of the counter overhang, (e.g., you're using corbels or something similar for support), people on stools could potentially scoot to the side a bit. A leg at the corner looks pretty but limits your space a bit more.

Are you using the counter for regular meals, or just casual sitting/snacking/socializing? If you plan to eat meals there, try it out with four people on one side of an 8' table and see how it feels. (Or if you don't have an 8' table, try 3 people at a 6 footer.) You may find that your elbows are knocking.

FWIW: We keep 4 stools at a high counter (about 43" high) that's about 84" long and 18" deep. When we have 4 people there, someone usually swings around a bit so they're more at the perpendicular end of the counter run. (No legs on the counter overhang; we have corbels.) That works fine for snacking, socializing, or quick casual meals. 4 people sitting straight on for a meal would be too tight.

Here is a link that might be useful: 40 kitchen planning guidelines


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RE: how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

As Chicagoans notes above, if you have legs or solid ends on the bar side of the island, you will need it to be even longer--probably at least 9' at that point. No legs or solid ends and you can get away with 8'. One other thing to keep in mind--what size are the people who will be sitting at the bar? You want everyone to be comfortable if they're all sitting there side by side. For instance, if you have a house full of broad shouldered men, you may want a little more wiggle room than the 8'(9' with legs) allows.


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RE: how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

thank you both - incredibly insightful. I read another post from someone who suggested that having 4 or more definitely discourages conversation b/c everyone is lined up like 'ducks in a row'. I thought that was a great point too. Thinking maybe 3 stools and 1 at the end instead.


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RE: how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

If you want more help than you ever thought possible with your kitchen, travel over to the Kitchen Forum here and post your plans after reading for a day or two. Your head will burst from too much information too fast, but your kitchen will thank you every day of it's existence.


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RE: how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

great suggestion live_wire_oak! I will do that!


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RE: how long kitchen island for 4 stools?

I have an eight foot island supported on each end by outward facing bookcases 12" deep. We have three stools and that is comfortable for eating...


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