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Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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Posted by crazyhouse6 (My Page) on Thu, Aug 28, 08 at 1:51
| Please help... I love the look of brazilian teak (cumaru) and have seen several gorgeous photos on GW (gardenchick1, Lindybarts, vfish, polkadots, and more) but am nervous about putting it in our new home. Our builder and flooring supplier both expressed concerns about the stability, although it appears to be average on the stability charts and very hard. We live in MN, w/ major changes in temp. and humidity (we will have ac & humidity control unit in home). We have 4 young children and a big, overweight dog, so we need a very durable floor. The only installed BT floor I have seen locally had several major gaps in it. I love this floor, but don't want to regret having it installed against the "warnings" of the "experts." Any advice from others who have experience with BT would be appreciated.
I posted this on the flooring forum and was reminded to make sure that it is not sourced illegally, (thanks flooringguy for bringing to my attention) but I didn't hear from anyone regarding any gaps or positive reviews.
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RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| Well what a timely post crazyhouse6. I just love my floor, I'm glad we chose it BUT it is showing gaps now after a year. I was also told that Cumaru is notorious for shrinking and expanding with humidity and temperature changes. But they told me this AFTER we installed it. Gee, thanks! LOL! Anyway, I still love it and we have filled in the gaps where they were getting too big with wood filler. It looks fine where we filled it and no one notices the smaller gaps unless I point them out. As far as it holding up well with children and pets...it's been great in that department. We have the sweedish finish and there's not even one scratch that I can see. Very hard, very durable. Lindy |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| Thanks Lindybarts for the follow-up. Your floors look spectacular. I'm hoping to hear from a few others too. |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| We have BT almost everywhere in our house. It was installed three plus years ago and so far, no problems. We are in the Toronto area so have lots of weather changes too. |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| peachieone, glad to hear that! I was singing the praises of BT to so many people and I was afraid I might have steered someone wrong. I wonder if our gaps we are experiencing have to do with the amount of rain we get here?? (Portland) I haven't heard Gardenchick say she's had any problems at all (I think she's in the South??) Vfish and Polkadots just got their floors less than a year ago, so maybe too soon to tell. I will say again that despite these small gaps, we would choose this floor again. We love it! |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| Cumaru has moderate movement. Not a lot but definitely some. If you have humidifiers/dehumidifers/ac to keep a consisten temperature/humidity through the year that's a good thing. I mentioned this to floorguy before but got no response. Not sure if he is confusing brazilian teak with real teak (tectonis grandis). There is a large disucssion with legal harvestation of real teak - with the sustainable teak being "plantation teak". The best teak(true teak) in the world is from burma. Unfortunately burma and the us don't get along (sort of like cuba) - therefore anything from burma is labeled 'illegal'. Now, not getting into whether its forested correctly or whether the political powers that be in burma are right/wrong but the rest of the world use burmese teak - just not us. We'll use a lot of other woods that are harvested in much worse conditions than burmese teak but because us nd burma are politically at odds - burmese teak is 'illegal'. Brazilian teak is harvested similarly to brazilian cherry - and its whole issues in the brazilian/south american rain forest. they are two distinct woods with the "teak" common name (brazilian teak is not teak, just a common name for us to associate it with a desirable wood that isn't as widely available). |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| The moisture content of ANY hardwood flooring MUST be checked and recorded before installation. Find out what is considered acceptable for Cumaru and DO NOT install it until it is at or below this number. Not sure how you're going to drive the moister meter pins into such a hard wood however :-) |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| We are continually NOT selling Brazilian Teak (Cumaru) & Brazilian Walnut (Ipe) in the NE market from DC to Boston from Chicago to St Paul or any area in the country Denver CO that heats or cooks (blow dry) the floor for the 6 month heating season. Specifically in 4 or 5" only. We feel that 3" or 3 1/4" is the (max.) face width you should go with in these markets. It is also smart to acclimate & humidify. Pre-finished 3/4" x 3 1/4" x random length 1 - 7 foot is best & the widest you should go. It is also very important & we strongly recommend waiting at least one week, preferably two, before installing your new flooring. We advise you to bring the wood into your home and run the heating system without a humidifier to help remove the excess moisture. You must remember in addition to the hardwood flooring, you will need to remove excess moisture in the plywood sub-floor. This will help your new flooring acclimate to its new environment. * Your new floor requires that you maintain a relative humidity of 37 to 40% in your home. This will require having a humidifier on your HVAC heating system. |
RE: Brazilian teak/cumaru floor - stability ? Please help...
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| Thought I'd share my Brazilian Teak pictures. This was just finished yesterday - the Bona Mega finish (water based) is just dried, and this is not completely cured. I had two rooms done one was done in brazilian cherry (not shown in the pictures) and the other done in cumaru. The cumaru cupped a bunch after the 2nd application of Bona Mega. The Cherry didn't have this problem. I didn't install this wood, but this was the same house and the supplier of the wood was the same place. I'm not sure why. But the cupping problem seems to be resolving on it's own right now. I hope it doesn't become a problem in the future. |
Here is a link that might be useful: Brazilian Teak / Cumaru pictures
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