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site finished or pre finished wood floors

snuffycuts99
10 years ago

What did you do? Which do you prefer? We're leaning towards site finished...would love some feedback...thanks!

Comments (30)

  • estescustombuilders
    10 years ago

    We build custom home in Maine throughout the state. We love the pre-finished flooring. The main reason behind our choice is at the factories they use chemical sealers in a commercial setting. This sealant usual consists of aluminum oxide crystals embedded in a ultraviolet cured urethane coat this allows for the companies that produce the product to offer a warranty on there product some do up to even a 25 year. Also when they install the product it is done no sanding no time waiting for the stain to dry. One thing we do recommend is make sure the type of hardwood you have fits your life style if you have pets you will want a harder wood so it does not scratch that easy. We always recommend on new construction home once the hardwood is completed the hardwood installers or your general contractor cover the floors to make sure your finish is persevered till you move in. www.estescustombuilders.com

    Here is a link that might be useful: Homes with Prefinished floors

  • mdln
    10 years ago

    Also could decide that, so am doing site finished on 1st floor & prefinished (wirebrushed) on 2nd floor.

    My concern with prefinished is when the finish is scratched it looks whitish (apparently due to the aluminum oxide). I scratched a lot of samples in the store; all had a whitish look to the scratch.

    It was far more noticeable than when I scratched the site finished samples, scratched but no white.

  • littlebug5
    10 years ago

    We bought a 50 year old home and were concerned about prefinished floors not fitting well in a house that was (of course) not completely square any more. We bought site finished, which turned out to be pricier than prefinished, but are very happy we did.

    This is a ranch style house with the typical center support beam lengthwise through the house. Since the largest area we intended to put a wood floor in is the living/dining room, which crosses the center beam, we wanted to be sure the new floor didn't highlight the beam.

    We had an EXCELLENT installer who did a great job. He sanded it 3 times and applied 3 coats of polyurethane. We had to sleep out on the screened in porch during the polyurethane stage, though, because of the smell.

    The cost was over $10 a square foot. We live in the rural Midwest.

  • schicksal
    10 years ago

    Site finished for sure! I hate the bevel that prefinished flooring has. All the dust goes there and the only way to get it out is to vacuum the floor. Site finished is nice and flat.

  • amberm145_gw
    10 years ago

    We have pre-finished in our current house, but I'd like to do site finished in the new house.

    The pre-finished stuff is supposed to be stronger because the factory can use products you would never use in a house. However, we had a 150lb Newfoundland dog. He gouged the maple floors (ripped the finish right off, and took chunks out of the wood) within hours after coming into the house after the floors were done. We're now looking to have them refinished because we're selling once our build is done. And finishers are doubling or tripling their price when they find out we have prefinished floors. Apparently the only thing those tough finishes do is make refinishing a PITA. And it's not just the old dog who damaged it, I've done my fair share, too.

    Plus, pre-finished floors only come in gloss or semi-gloss. If you don't want scratches to show up, you need satin or matte finish.

    However, we're getting quotes of $15-18/sq' for site finished, vs $8-10 for prefinished. So, it's going to come down to what the budget looks like when we get to that point.

  • nini804
    10 years ago

    Site finished!

  • xc60
    10 years ago

    Pre finished for us, but site finished is pretty much unheard of here (Alberta).

  • palimpsest
    10 years ago

    I've done mostly prefinished for clients, but I prefer site finished myself.

  • illinigirl
    10 years ago

    A site finished floor is a "Lifetime" floor. If it gets damaged, or even just worn/scratched it can be rescreened or fully refinished.

    I love the smoothness of a site finished floor (ie no bevels for grime or spills to catch in) I had a prefinished solid maple floor....and after a few years of regular cleaning one day I noticed that the grime build up in between the bevels was horrifying. I had to scrape it out with a butter knife. Regular cleaning (even on my hands and knees with soft microfiber cloth) was NOT getting that grime out. And it was more than dust- it was kitchen grease, milk/juice spills from the kids, etc.

    We are getting site finished for our new build for this reason. I just didn't trust that a prefinished product would meet my expectations. Although there are some higher end ones (Mirage, Monogram XL) that looked like good quality. Those would cost the same as a site finished floor though.

  • galore2112
    10 years ago

    I refinished a site finished floor once. If this is your main argument for a site finished floor, be aware that refinishing is a MAJOR project, not just a more elaborate mopping.

    For me, the best argument for a site finished floor is the lack of bevel if you don't like the look or cleaning issues.

    The best argument for a factory finished floor is the superior top coat (the site applied varnishes are not as advanced and can't possibly be applied as flawlessly).

  • User
    10 years ago

    Site finished doesn't prevent voids between boards. That's just part of wood flooring expanding and contracting with the changing seasons humidity. Nor does it "seal" the floor from moisture. Not past the first winter. Again, the culprit is the normal expansion and contraction of wood. No site finish can stand that without cracking, even if you don't "see" the cracks.

    The only real bonuses to site finished is the ability to create a truly custom color for the floor, and the lack of microbevels between the boards. That's it. The finish isn't as durable. The specialty colored finishes aren't as readily available in site finished. It takes longer to do site finished, with a longer wait time post install for the finish to cure, and that impacts overall scheduling negatively.

  • palimpsest
    10 years ago

    I think that site finished, like other sorts of "traditional" things, ages more gracefully than prefinished.

    Since they *arent as durable finish wise, they take on wear as more of a patina, rather than looking beat up.

    I've lived in some pretty old places with floors that haven't been refinished in decades, if ever, and when I look at some of those, compared to one client's prefinished floors, which she has been very hard on, I feel like some of mine have looked "worn" or "aged" whereas hers look "damaged" "worn Out" in some areas.

    It's a point of view I suppose, but it's something that I take into consideration when deciding for a particular project.

  • snuffycuts99
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Wow I didn't realize that site finished costs that much more. That will certainly play a major part in our decision.

  • ILoveCookie
    10 years ago

    I really dislike the bevels in the pre-finished floors. I knew that from my previous house, but I didn't realize the site-finished can be so much nicer until I moved into my current house, which has gorgeous 30-year old site-finished white oak floor throughout.

    So given the choice, I'd definitely do site-finished, even if that means I need to use a cheaper wood instead, but white oak is not that expensive to begin with.

  • Oaktown
    10 years ago

    dreamer16, site finished is not necessarily that much more than pre-finished. We are using a site-finished 4" white oak in part because it ends up being cheaper than the pre-finished 5" white oak option. Good luck with your decision.

  • jennybc
    10 years ago

    We did site finished 4" red oak, with Jacobean stain. Satin finish. Love it. Wood was $2.10/sq ft. I know factory finish is tougher, but I wanted the forever, and I'm willing to screen/poly or full resand/poly. This is my forever house. I too do not like the beveled edge look.

    Jen

  • snuffycuts99
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    Those are beautiful floors! That's why we're leaning towards site finished....we dislike the bevels on prefinished. I also noticed that scratches appear pretty white. I'm hoping that won't be the case with site finished.

  • DreamingoftheUP
    10 years ago

    My preference would be for site finished. That's what I have (guess pre-finished wasn't an option when my house was built!) A cousin recently ripped out all the carpet in their home because of allergies and installed prefinished. Site finished wouldn't have been an option anyway because of the allergies. The floors look very nice, but I don't care for the bevels.

  • Iowacommute
    10 years ago

    Site finished with shellac.

  • nepool
    10 years ago

    I have site finished on the first floor of my current home and prefinished on the second floor (that we installed a few years ago). Site finished wins hands down, because no bevels! I don't care for the bevels.

    Doing prefinished in a home you are living in is understandable- no mess! Build for my new build, we are going site finished. I haven't gotten any hard and fast quotes, but word is that pricing is about the same.

  • PRO
    MDLN
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    OP - what did you finally decide on?

    Update for me - prefinished was installed and now is being pulled out and site finished will be going in.

    Even with multiple attempts at leveling the underlayment could not get rid of movement in some areas when you stepped on the floor (beyond an acceptable amount). Dust likes to settle in the bevels (frequently want to run Q-tips along them to clean it out). Also, prefinished HW looks a little too much like prefinished engineered HW.

    My recommendation will now be site-finished.

  • User
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    There are several misconceptions here.

    There can be site finished solid wood or site finished engineered wood. Having it finished on site is the variable. The two are not mutually exclusive. Foundation type often demands engineered wood, and that does not mean accepting a lesser quality material. As long as an adequate budget is in the picture, quality in either type is achievable.

    Site finished has everything to do with finding the right artisan. Prefinished has everything to do with the company that creates the product. It is a shift in emphasis for responsibility of a successful install. A NWFA accredited installer and installation for site finished is likely to be several notches in expense above the install of a medium quality prefinished product. Choosing to use a lesser skilled finisher simply because of budget, will likely have results that you are not happy with in the long run.

    Engineered wood, if it's a good quality, is indistinguishable from solid wood to the naked eye. IF it's installed as a Permanently affixed nail down or glue down.

    Floating floors are a whole other category of installation and often perform unsatisfactorily because of improper site prep and low quality sound pad. That is regardless of the material being floated, including laminate.

    Any floor that is not flat enough, and experiences bounce, is not flat enough for Any floor but carpet to be installed. Deflection though, often has more to do with the joists being inadequately specced to the lowest allowable by code rather than the subfloor thickness. When hard floors are desired, the home has to be engineered to accept them from the design phase. This is one area that being "code compliant" results in too many problems down the road because the code is inadequate for the construction level that most homes now wish to have.

    The use of a good quality vacuum is a recommended care routine in addition to dry dusting. If there are no other issues in the home, such as inadequate kitchen ventilation, a vacuum will remove dust from any micro bevels in a prefinished floor---or the inevitable micro gaps in a site finished floor.

  • PRO
    MDLN
    8 years ago

    @ LWO, thanks for clarifing my point. I meant to be comparing prefinished to site-finished. Prior to the prefinished HW, I had site-finished HW with no problem. Hopefully the nail down vs floating floor will resolve the problem.

    Dust in the gaps of my darker walnut site finished HW on the 1st floor is not noticeable, like it is in the prefinished lighter oak HW on the 2nd floor. I think the rounded edge bevels hold more dust than the flat surface with sharp edge gaps in the site-finished.

  • lazy_gardens
    8 years ago

    I decided on prefinished because I was on a tight schedule, didn't want the mess and delays, and I could do it myself and save $$$. I can handle a floor nailer, but not a drum sander.

    It's not as smooth as modern site finished, but neither is the 1890s floor in some of the rooms.


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  • chisue
    8 years ago

    I'd expect site finished in a more expensive home. I'd also not expect to see a 'patchwork' of short boards, but boards four feet or longer.


  • cpartist
    8 years ago

    I'd expect site finished in a more expensive home. I'd also not expect to see a 'patchwork' of short boards, but boards four feet or longer.

    Not necessarily. In FL houses are all built on slab and almost all use engineered wood floors nowadays.

  • tamizami
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    there are engineered wood floors that are 4 ft and longer. i think i am doing engineered site finished floors because i hate the bevels. however, stile makes a square edge prefinished floor, but the widest boards you can get are about 5-1/4" with the square edge. the walnut is gorgeous, altho their wear layer is only 4mm.

  • chisue
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    OT: I'm asthmatic. Slab construction is hard on me. The best place for me to sleep would be on a second story in a house with a basement, but I'm also OK on a first floor over a basement.

  • toriat
    8 years ago

    Site finished real hardwood floors of red oak