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What style is this house (pic) and is it practical today?

Posted by red_lover (My Page) on
Thu, Feb 2, 12 at 12:29

This house and this picture are from 1903. I love this old house. Do you think something like this can be done by an architect today, have an attached garage, a first floor master bedroom---and still keep the charm of this old beauty?

btw, I was here 6 yrs ago and built a Southern Living Plan. We just purchased property and are in no hurry, but are building again after we hire an architect and get our plan complete, whatever that may be. Not really thrilled with this whole thing again, but I'm trying to get into the spirit and get excited.

Susie

Here is a link that might be useful: House


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RE: What style is this house (pic) and is it practical today?

If you have enough money and land that you can do a side load or rear load garage, then almost any home style can be adapted to modern usage, including this Craftsman-esque home with Greek Revival touches. I find the proportions nice, but adding in those Ionic columns is a bit jarring. Like wearing a nice tweed blazer and khakis with a tiara. They try too hard and just leave you scratching your head as to what the intention was in the first place.


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This is one of the many configurations of the Colonial Revival Style. The column capitals are a common feature and often occur at the top of wide corner boards too. The full wrap around porch is impressive; they were more often only on the front and sometimes didn't have a roof (a piazza) like my house shown below in 1892. Where will the new house be located?

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Mine is an early example so it has some Victorian elements but yours was built when the Colonial revival had become well established. Do you know where it is located?

The difficulty with emulating this style is that first floor bedrooms tend to make the first floor much larger than the upper floor and except for porches these houses were about the same area on both floors.

A 1 1/2 story version might work using an offshoot of the Colonial Revival, the Shingle Style.


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Renovator--this is actually a picture of a home that is being used as a bed and breakfast that I came across somewhere on my computer. I saved this pic, but not the link to the location. I would love to find someone that could design a home that would look similiar to this home, but it sounds like it may not work unless master is on second floor.. Plenty of land for back /side garage. Thanks for identifying the style for me. I love the house you posted. Live in Illinois, so not so sure about shingle style?

Live wire oak. First of all. Why didn't my link work if I may ask? Thanks for showing the the pic for me. Loved your analogy re: the tiara. In my infatuation over this house, I had not even noticed how "fancy" the columns were.

Susie


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One way to keep the style of the house you like and put the master suite on the lower floor is to enclose the porch on one or more sides of the house. Don't give up on the idea.


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Renovator-- not only do I need a first floor master, but I also need a study for my husband. I am not only willing but would like to give up the living room and dining room that I have now, that I never use. I would love a really large kitchen, dining "area" and great room. Plus I want a huge laundry room, lol. Any way all of this might fit on the first floor of this home?

My guests enter my house right now through my laundry room on the garage side of my house. I would love to have a sort of "side foyer".

So many things I want to make sure I get right in this house.

Thanks.


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The link doesn't work for me either. I click and a photobucket HTML comes up but no pic.


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Is it something to do with the fact that I'm using an IPad? I used photobucket when I was here last build with a pc without issue.


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In order to maintain the massing of this style you will need some spaces on the second floor. What spaces would you like to put up there?


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I have two grown daughters, one that is recently married. My youngest daughter bought land near us and will also be building near us someday, so I will need room for grandchildren, I hope.

I am also still raising children. Nine year old twin boys.

Upstairs I would like to have three bedrooms, lots of closet space, in addition to a "sleepover/playroom" room where all of their junk/toys will live to keep their rooms clean. I would love to have a back staircase in keeping with the old fashioned look of this house. Is that just a waste?

Their rooms are puny now. My kitchen is puny with no windows. I have a huge dining room that I never use, full of 30 yr old wedding china that hasn't seen the light of day in over 6 yrs, while I have to put my bread machine away every time I use it, because I have no room to leave it on the kitchen counter. I expect that this house will be significantly larger than what we have now which is 3500 sq ft one level over finished basement.

My house is disproportionate--huge foyer-- inadequate laundry room etc.. These are the kinds of mistakes I want to avoid in this house.

Thanks.


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Sounds like it's time to start a professional association with an architect then. Start interviewing them and builders. A large mostly square two story house can be less expensive than the muti gabled bumpout prone atrocities that are so prevalent today. However, in a home like this, the simplicity of the quality in detail is what ends up costing you. But good quality materials is what will make a house this.


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Sounds like a good program. A back stair would also give you access to a smaller but very handy attic space. In my house that space was originally the Billiard Room with a small bedroom and bath for a servant. For me it has functioned as a rental apartment and as my architectural office and one of my sons lives there now.

I can think of no reason the basic concept of the house you like can't be emulated. I grew up in Webster Groves, MO; what part of ILL do you live in?

The Shingle Style was an off-shoot of the Early Colonial Revival style, in fact it wasn't known as a separate style until later. It basically took a Colonial Revival house and wrapped it in shingles. It didn't make a big splash outside of New England but Wright used it in the early days for his own house and studio. I have discussed it on the forum many times so you can search for it. I've included a link to one discussion from last October.

Here is a link that might be useful: shingle style thread


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Here is another link for Shingle Style house photos on the GardenWeb.

Here is a link that might be useful: Shingle Style house photos


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Frank Lloyd Wright examples of the Shingle Style including his first house.

Here is a link that might be useful: FLW Shingle Style


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Renovator--we are100 m. E of St. L. And have season tickets to the card games. DD just graduated from SLU. Love the architecture in the central west end area. Wish I could just take one of those houses and transplant it to my land!

I just realized in your last note that the house you posted is your own home. That is amazing. You are so lucky to have that picture. Please post a few pics of your home as it is now. Will look at the threads you linked soon . Thanks for posting them. Thanks for the good advice.

Thanks Holly as well.


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RE: What style is this house (pic) and is it practical today?

It is not the ipad that is the issue. You need to do the html code copy and put in the normal text to get the picture to show up.

You did the img tag copy and also put it in the location for a link. If you want to link to your picture copy the web address and put in the link portion.


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Here is a rendering of the house the year after it was built. I also have the architect's construction blueprints and specifications including later modifications in 1903.

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Lycia--thanks!

Renovator-your house is amazing. I love old houses. Enjoyed reading the links about shingle style homes. Hope to hire an architect soon. If this house can't work, I found a pic of a shingle stle home that I like that doesn't look like it would be out of place in Il.

Thanks!


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show us the house


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Hope this works

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House

Not loving the eyebrow looking structure on the front porch, but otherwise this house really appeals to me and my need for symmetry. What do you think?


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It's a fantastic house. It is probably an early example because symmetry is rare in the Shingle Style. Usually the second peak would be a different size with a different window so this one has one foot in the Colonial Revival Style and one in the Shingle Style.

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So, it sounds like you think this house is an old home? That makes me like it even more.

Does that mean, if I showed it to an architect and had him draw it for me, or something quite similar--I would not be stepping on any toes as far as copyright goes?

The picture of this house came from a blog without any reference to where it's at or any other info.


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McKim Mead & White were the masters of the Colonial Revival and Shingle Styles.

Head of the Harbour, Long Island
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So pretty.

Breathtaking. I would love to see a picture of the whole house.


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Copyright infringement should not be a concern. I could send you more information more easily by email if you don't mind posting it. I recommend not using your primary email address online. If you don't have a sacrificial address I can give you mine.


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I assume you are referring to the Head of the Harbor house

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Here is a link that might be useful: Head of the Harbor by Stanford White


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There are endless variations of the twin gables in the shingle style with or without porches but the design should start with an evaluation of the site.

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What is interesting about the Shingle Style is the play of formal classical detailing against the casual texture of the shingles. It is an intriguing balance.
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The pale shingles are usually white cedar with a bleaching oil stain. The dark ones are usually unfinished red cedar. They can also be pressure treated white cedar with or without a stain.

White Cedar Shingles:
left is pressure treated with color, right is pressure treated with no color
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RE: What style is this house (pic) and is it practical today?

But if the OP was drawn to the photo house because of the awesome overhanging roof, then they aren't after the shingle style with it's crisp, tailored, minimal eaves. The OP house is all about the cornicework and encompassing porches.
Casey


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The advantage of the Shingle Style over the more formal Colonial Revival Style is that it can be more easily adapted to enclose her program with a lower floor so much larger than the upper floor and her second photo makes it clear that large cornices are not a prerequisite. I have had good success using the Shingle Style with partially enclosed porches to meet the space programs of modern families.


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I find that the OP's photo reveals a house much more toward an evolved-over-time farmhouse manifestation of Col.Rev. than the formal, cubical Palazzo end of the spectrum; as such, one- or two-story faux "dependencies" added to the rear or side of the core to accommodate a kit/fam/MBr suite would play well with the freer massing equally as well as the rambling/relaxed Shingle style massing.

Do we know the lot size. Wider or deeper?
Casey


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You guys are too deep for me! I'm just a simple farm girl.

Our land is plenty wide and plenty deep. The back is to the east, but I would like to turn the house slightly so that the back is slightly SE, and hopefully creating a cooler spot on the left side of the front porch that is not due West. Our land is thickly wooded and slightly sloped to the back, so I hope to create a walk-out basement somewhere for easy basement escape in case of fire.

The more I look at the two picturesI have, the more I like the 1.5 story. It really has a certain charm. I am doubting that the first floor of my other house will hold all the spaces I would like to have. I'm thinking a first floor guest room maybe as well.

Are the Hardie shingles any good?


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Casey

Casey-just re-read your note. You are saying take the first house, add a "wing", for lack of a better word, to accomadate the extra space not in the original house without throwing off the look of the house from it's original beauty.

Can it be done without screwing up the look up the house?

It's a good thought.


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Renovator- I would appreciate the copyright info , but do not have another email addy.

If you have one, I'll email you.


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renovator8@gmail.com


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