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Is it possible to stay on budget

Posted by reneegavin (My Page) on
Wed, Feb 8, 12 at 6:56

We are looking to build a home in the somewhat near future. We are leaning towards modular, but still aren't 100% sure. We've heard from someone that heard of a person that set a budget, had something go wrong at every inspection point, and ended up over their budget when the house wasn't even half done. Is this common? We have an unmovable upper part of our budget, and going over wouldn't be an option for us!


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RE: Is it possible to stay on budget

I don't know about modular building, but we contracted with our builder for a fixed price custom home. They took our plans and speced out what exactly we would be getting for that price, and the exact amount of allowance for allowance items. We went through that contract with a fine tooth comb, because, like you, we wanted to stay on budget but it was also very important to us that we would be getting the quality of materials and finishes that we wanted. It became my job last year to make choices that kept us on track. I kept a spread sheet of my allowances, and my ID helped me to find resources that had better pricing than some of the specs. When I went over in a category, I tried to find savings in another. I was doing quite well until we got to the millwork. What they specced was perfectly lovely, 7" crown, 8" baseboards, 3" casings...but trim is my weakness....once I saw how lovely the 4" casings looked, and saw all the areas the carpenter could add special details and built-ins, I was a goner. Luckily, my dh is very kind, lol, and we made the *gulp* $10,000+ overage work. But other than that, it was not difficult to stay on budget if you are flexible and keep the bottom-line in mind with every choice. Good luck to you!


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Sure, it's possible to stay on budget if you spec out everything before you start and don't make any changes. However, that's too much like work for most people to tackle. And too many people are so not in touch with what things cost. As my grandma used to say, their eyes are bigger than their stomach, or in house speak, their choices are above what their budget will support.

If you are on a fixed budget, and the number is low, then your best bet is to save more money while you learn how to tackle some DIY home improvement projects at your current home. The most expensive portion of any build is the labor to do it, and the only significant way to cut that expense is to bring some skills to the job. Or choose builder's grade everything just to get you into the home and slowly upgrade over time.

And right now, if you are on a limited budget, it makes no sense at all to build. It's much cheaper to buy. National averages are around 75% of the cost of your build will get you an equivlent home in most areas.


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we are no where close to being complete, we are just weathered in with rough plumbing started, we are so far over budget I feel like im building two houses lol

1. Our first excavator was a disaster, got us in trouble with some agencies, caused problems we had to pay to fix, etc. That was a major, major overage to the tune of around $40,000

2. Our second excavator is good, he has done great work. However, we have hit lots of rock. An extra $10k for blasting foundation and also trench lines for electric.

3. Mason, due to first excavator issues (overdug) we had to have more block in our garage foundation walls. Extra $$

4. Due to the overdig, garage floor had to be engineered, Extra $$ here

5. Plumber calls to say house is so large he would suggest a recirculating hot water loop so we would have hot water in all areas of the house without a long wait. Extra $1500

6. Drywall guy calls, says drywall just went up and he has to raise his bid by $9000 or he cant do the job. Im currently having other drywall bids come in to see where we are.

Luckily, our "budget" was flexible o me reigning everything in would have killed me in stress!


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It is also necessary to include in the budget contingency amounts for unexpected costs.


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I have always been told to build in at least 10% for overages. We have built two homes. We have been the GC on both. The first house we came in $1000 over budget with a very small contingency cushion but we knew we were only going to be in the house a few years and didn't go overboard with upgrades.

The second house was a different story. It is our long term home, in fact I don't see any reason we would ever want to move. When we started planning the budget we went with the cheaper options for finishes and things that would be easy to upgrade later. Even with that in mind we went to the bank with 10% built in for overages. Even with the cusion we went over that budget by about $5000. Here is why:
We had soil issues and had to over excavate and have and engineered basement slab installed. That was a majority of the over runs in cost. Needless to say it was a little nerve racking since it was the beginning of the project.
We upgraded a few things that we weren't planning on because it just didn't make sense to put in something we knew we would change in a year.
Our lighting budget was very under estimated, I forgot to count several fixtures(not sure how I missed them but I guess I am human!)
Our lumber salesman was horrible and the framer he suggested wasted an enormous amount of lumber so our bill was a lot higher than the take off he provided. The waste pile was at least 3 times the size of our last home.

Even though we went over budget we still were able to absorb the difference. The biggest thing I have learned is to expect that you will want to upgrade things that you initially think you won't care about. Put extra money in the buget to put in the upgrades and if you decide you don't want them then that is just more money in the bank. Better to plan to spend more than what you really think you will. Another big factor is the ability of the builder to negotiate and rearrange subs. It is amazing how many deals you can make with subs for different things (we offered the extra boulders we dug up to the landscaper) etc. That can save you money or get you an upgrade you weren't planning on!


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Staying on budget is not hard as long as the budget is realistic. I've built 2 houses recently and went 3% over and was dead even despite adding things along the way and unexpected circumstances.

I also built and had the appraisal exactly at build cost. The appraisal was based on comparables that were definitely inferior. So we built for less that what truly comparable existing would cost. In fact, next door a spec house is being built with a separate investor - ie 2 people need to make money to make it work. So - RE is local and in some places it makes sense to build.


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"We have an unmovable upper part of our budget, and going over wouldn't be an option for us!"

If you do not have some financial reserves, then building may not be for you.

Not everything can be 'known' when starting.

The excavator may find soil at the desired depth that is not suitable for your foundation.
It may be a localized pocket that did not show on maps.
You could have paid many thousands of dollars for square foot buy square foot soil testing before you started digging, but that was probably not in your budget either (if you could even find someone to do it).
you might as well dig and then deal with anything that comes up.

When a plumbing fixture you ordered is not delivered on time and the plumber must make another trip to install it, who pays?

Building without additional reserves over the initial budget is simply a disaster in slow motion.

You will creep closer and closer to the your limit, till you hit the budget with additional work to be completed and no money to pay for the work.

They are referred to as 'unknowns' since they are imposable or expensive to quantify in dollar terms.


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I agree with what everyone else here is telling you.

We built our first home (a modular) 15 years ago, and are just now beginning the stages of building our "forever" home (which is just another really nice modular).

My honest opinion? While I think a really good modular builder will help you make good choices up front (and that hopefully elminates a lot of the cost over-runs later on), I don't think there is any good way to go into a build without a healthy contingency budget.

Some things you just don't know until you start digging...and some things are going to go wrong along the way. It is just the nature of things.

Without knowing the cost of your proposed home, and how close that is to the upper limit of your budget, it is hard to give a more precise opinion - but I agree you have reason to be concerned.


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We had an unmovable budget as well when we were thinking about building 4 years ago. After thinking it over, we started looking at real estate around the area where we wanted to live. As an avid shopper of home improvement stores, I knew that it just was not possible to build our dream home with our budget even though we had the land to build it on. I wouldn't have been happy with the end result if we had built. We found a foreclosure that was only a year and a half old for the fraction of the price if we had built it exactly as is for ourselves. We have been happy in for the last 3 1/2 years. We are again thinking about building since we have 4 boys and only 3 bedrooms in a 2 story. With a 2 1/2 month, I just find it practical to put him upstairs. Adding on an addition is not an option for us either since the lot is made weird and we would have to dig up the septic system and move it to be able to do so.


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Unless you have some flexibility in your finances, or plan a build that is substantially lower than your upper limit, you are not a good candidate for building. There are too many unknowns that can happen for you to risk your financial well being on a home build when you can just buy an existing home right now for so much cheaper. That is not to say that if you keep saving that you wouldn't be a future candidate for a build. Just not at this point in your life.


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