As noted a light directly over the range will put a bright spot on the hood and a shadow on the range top. Offsetting them to each side is the best approach. Lighting on kitchen counters is a conundrum. 18" back from the cabinets puts the light directly on your head unless the lamp can be aimed toward the cabinets which is more expensive (often over the budget/allowance). Non-adjustable fixtures at 8" from the cabinets provide good lighting but will throw a scalloped hot spot on the cabinets (only one client has liked that). Wall washer fixtures will throw a soft continuous light on the cabinets and counters but there are few choices of inexpensive fixtures especially if the ceiling is insulated. I've never solved this problem the same way twice because people have such different tolerances and prejudices for lighting. If the fixtures are 5" diam. and 33" apart I recommend A-lamp Wall Washers with an Alzak reflector (haze/clear diffuse) or an eyelid type. If you want more light try 4" adjustable Low voltage MR16 fixtures.

Has this discussion meant anything Frieda in whatever sense - especially if you've enjoyed it?Oh absolutely, Jan! I'm drawn to poetry discussions...well, I must be because I'm always sticking my fat head in and exposing my ignorance. Truth is I love the idea of poetry, but I am less enchanted with most poems, themselves. But occasionally I discover a new one that smacks me up the side of my head -- such as "Cold Knap Lake" at Anyanka's link above -- and it's all worth it. I may even develop a liking for Mary Oliver. :-) Now, the Keats: I seem to relate better to pre-20th century poets. I'm not sure if it's the quaint language (in the sense of being marked by beauty and elegance) or the imagery that I like best. Some 20th-century poets (don't know yet about the 21st-century ones) can pull off the feat and send me into "the light of other times" that I like best. Here's one that does just that: Her Kind I have gone out, a possessed witch, haunting the black air, braver at night; dreaming evil, I have done my hitch over the plain houses, light by light: lonely thing, twelve-fingered, out of mind. A woman like that is not a woman, quite. I have been her kind. I have found the warm caves in the woods, filled them with skillets, carvings, shelves, closets, silks, innumerable goods; fixed the suppers for the worms and the elves: whining, rearranging the disaligned. A woman like that is misunderstood. I have been her kind. I have ridden in your cart, driver, waved my nude arms at villages going by, learning the last bright routes, survivor where your flames still bite my thigh and my ribs crack where your wheels wind. A woman like that is not ashamed to die. I have been her kind. -- Anne Sexton I would give credit if I could to whoever introduced me to this poem -- I think it was in a thread such as this one and it may have been you, Jan.

I actually had to have a brow lift along with my bleph. My brows were lifted almost 1/2". It definitely made a difference in my vision-I went to get new glasses and found my prescription had changed drastically as a result of the heavy lids no longer impinging on my eyeballs. Because mine involved cutting along my hairline, I don't really remember much discomfort at my eyes-they just felt a bit itchy. I have no scars-my plastic surgeon was amazing-she got the incision just along my hairline and you can't see the scar at all. On my lids, there is no scarring. It was a bit red for a while, but it didn't bother me. Everyone commented on how good I looked-many didn't realize I actually had blue eyes, because they couldn't see them! I used to have to tilt my head back to see, that's how bad my eyelids were-and I wasn't even 50 when I had it done.

bbstx, thanks for asking! I got my stitches out yesterday-YEA! My eyes had seemed more swollen than I thought they should be, so doc had me stop putting the enthramiacyn (sp?) on my eyelids and it has seemed to help. She told me not to wear eye makeup for 10 more days. Not a worry for me, but I don't go into work. I did go look at furniture/accessories for a client yesterday and had my sunglasses on and it was just too hard to see and putting them on and off. I am on day 9 now and they are getting much better since stitches are out! I did think I would be a little farther along with the redness and swelling by now, but everyone heals differently. I think I am normally a fast healer-oh well. Regarding the Invisaligns-I put them off until next week-I didn't really want to go into the dentist office yet until my eyes healed a little more. I will be anxious to get them started by then and will let you know my program on how many trays, etc. How exciting you are on your way!