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New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Posted by meagain (My Page) on
Sat, Apr 27, 02 at 21:13

In addition to their Kirkland brand stainless steel grill ($749), Costco has something new right now. I don't know the size specs on it but it is larger than the Kirkland.

It has (3)-20,000 btu burners in the grill section, a 12,000 btu side burner (which I don't need), and an infrared/rotisserie burner (don't know the BTUs on that).

It seems way nicer than the Kirkland and has a cabinet below the grill with 2 doors offering storage space in addition to space for the tank.

The brand is "Virco" and the model is called "The Classic" or "Classic Deluxe". The price is $799.

I have spent hours on the net researching grills and cannot find this name anywhere. I'm assuming some other manufacturer made this for "Virco"? I can't figure this one out.

I go to Costco every Friday and it wasn't there last week. Has anyone seen this grill over there? Any opinions? Any ideas as to the manufacturer? It looks very nice for the money - but what do I know. :)


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I went back to look at it again & bought it on the spot. It is absolutely stunning.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

So how do you like that Virco Grill? I bought one and then brought it back. It had some problems with the electronic ignition, it kept shorting out, and I couldn't get the burners to burn with a nice quiet blue flame. I hated to return it because it had all the bells & whistles you could ever ask for. But I just didn't want to spend good money and not have everything work the way it should.

If you find that you have had no problems with it I might consider trying another one, maybe I just got a bad one.

Let me Know.

Thanks


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I love it. I only used it once however.

Before we grilled I tested the temps as I was concerned about getting nice low heat temps. The lowest I got was 280 with the lid down. I was beyond please with this.

I AM able to get a nice low blue flame just fine. I cooked 3 racks of baby backs and there were absolutely no hotspots, etc. Any flareups immediately went out.

I'm beyond impressed with this grill and can't believe I only paid $799 for what is clearly (in my opinion) a grill worth a few grand.

The specs are there, the fit & finish is great, pure stainless, and darned handsome. I love it.

Maybe you got a lemmon. Sorry you had a bad experience. It must have been a bear to haul that puppy back to Costco. It was all we could do to get it out of my van and onto the patio. So far I'm very excited about it.


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I was at my local Costco in Michigan on Thursday looking at this Grill. At that time they had two boxes and a display unit. When I went back three days later everything was out of stock even the Display unit was gone.

All the Costcos in my area are sold out. One store has 14 on order. Its difficult to find an all stainless steel grill including the burners. And for the money you cant beat it.


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"And for the money you cant beat it."

Yes you can! For $200 less, you can get the Member's Mark at Sam's Club. Costco buyers missed the mark(no pun intended) in the last 2 years. They were offering the Kirkland Signature manufactured by DCS which was $799 and was smaller with fewer features then the Virco and the Member's Mark(which is made by Grand Hall). They needed to get something with more features to even come close. They are still missing it by $200. The Sam's Club grill has all of the features and is a bit larger.


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No comparison. Sorry.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

HI,
I just bought one yesterday (may 5) I had to goto 5 differt costco to find one in stock. here a my comments:

First of all I have shopped around for a grill like this and NONE can be found for the price (799.00), Yes I did look at the one from Sams, it seems to be a good unit also, But the 599.00 model is not 100% stainless steel. It has a steel frame, uses steel hardware and aluminum components. Sams offers a $1500.00 unit but that is 700.00 more than I paid. In az the Virco Classic is 799.00
For the people comparing to the "older Kirkland" version the Sams Member MArk is bigger- not better. But the New Classic dwarfs the the Sams one in size, weight and features.

So far I have had it 1 day and here is my initial impressions: Big, great features, heavy, 100% SS.

When I started it up I did have yellow flames, it took 5-10 minuts to adjust the air control for all 3 burners, now they are blue flames and quiet.
Then I turned it on HIgh, for 30 minutes to burn off any residue or other contaminants, it got HOT!!!
SO fAR i AM PLEASED WITH THE PURCHASE AND LIKE I SAID I HAVE SHOPPED AROUND AND NONE CAN BE FOUND OF THIS SIZE AND THESE FEATURES. 799.00 WELL SPENT IF YOU CAN FIND ONE.

I will do a follow up post in a couple weeks to tell all you how i like the cooking part of it.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I was going to buy the Makers Mark at Sam's until I read meagain's email. I went down to Costco and they had a floor model and a couple in the box. I went home got my neighbor and his truck went back and bought it. I have used it once and it worked great. I can't believe all features it has. You would think it cost a couple of grand more then the $799 price. I was reading mstephens86 comments about adjusting the flames. How did you do that? I don't remember seeing any procedure in the manual.


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I bought the floor model on saturday afternoon.
telegraph & squarelake rd
I also was looking at this grill for two weeks.
steaks were great along with roasted red pepper.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Now I know who got the last Virco at the Bloomfield Hills Costco. Which is one of the highest grossing Costcos
in the country and only had three on hand. I figured they would go fast but not that quickly.
Virco does make a Natural Gas adapter if you dont want to convert it yourself for $50 direct.


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what does a $799 grill have over a $200 sunbeam and other models in the same price range? My sunbeam cooks fine and I have three levels to cook food on. Only trouble I have it's so big can't find a rotisserie to fit it. Yellow Vs blue flame, explain why this matters? The Weber I cooked on in cape code never turned blue. Does anyone use the side burner since most grills have a 1 gallon weight limit from fear of tipping the grill over I hear. My grill has the side burner next to the casting in side the wheels so no fear of that with this grill..


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

To Darkmenace & MFItch,
TO ADJUST FLAMES: (CALL THE MANUFACTUER. I AM NOT A SPECIALIST)
******REMOVE THE PROPANE BOTTLE...***
1. OPEN THE DOORS
2. REMOVE THE DRIP PAN.
3. LAY ON YOUR BACK AND LOOK UP WHERE THE CONTROL KNOBS CONNECT TO THE BURNER PIPES.
4. YOU WILL SEE A PHILLIPS SCREW, LOSSEN IT AND OPEN THE AIR VENTS. ((YOU SEE YELLOW BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH AIR.))
5. RE TIGHTEN- BECAREFUL NOT TO STRIP - JUST SNUG IT UP
Blue flame vs yellow flame, BLUE = very hot and no black residue. Also it is much more efficient to cook with. For example just look at a torch or a After burner on a fighter jet.

What do you get over a 200.00 model. I dont really know the sunbeam brand.. Heres why I bought one like this.
(I shopped around for many months TO compare all models and all prices.)
1. It is 100% stainless steel- It will last forever.
2. It looks great. Everyone or MAN like a cool grill
3. It has a HUGE drip pan- it is stainless also
4. It has a catalys rotisory burner- if you use it you know what I am talking about
5. It is very heavy- For some reason I associate weight w/ cost. it make me feel good.
6. great features.
Also you say that you side burner can only hold 1 gallon. thats about 8 pounds, this one will hold my weight.

thanks,


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Hey, I just signed up so i can ask you new Virco grill owners some questions. I saw the Virco and fell in love. My hubbie liked it, but was put off because, as you said, who's ever heard of Virco? He wants a Weber Silver with the cast iron grill, but I cannot convince him to go with the Virco. Here's my two questions
1) Does the Virco live up to its seductive appearance and price?
2) Will going against hubbie's wishes (Weber GRill) do irreparable damage to our marriage ? He doesn't care what the grill looks like, he just wants to go with a Weber and says its a "guy thing".


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Has anyone converted this to Natural Gas without using Vircos Natural Gas kit?


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What is the purpose of the weight that goes on the end rotisserie?


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

the weight? to hold it down... haha just trying to be funny
Did you read my post on yellow flames- did it work?
accually its a counter weight.
its to balance you food, like on a tire.
if you have heavy side, put the weight on the opposite side direct so it rotates evenly

If you have small food, there is no need for it
I think it is worthless myself. sell it on ebay


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I read your post on flame adjustment. I am going to try it this afternoon.

Cool, a counter balance. I can't believe how heavy duty this thing is.

For years I have been drooling over the three and four grand stainless grills at Barbeques Galore. Had I bought one I think I would feel a little foolish now.


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i have blue flames. thanks


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Flame Adjustment

Do you adjust so the flame is blue and steady when the burner is set to low?


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

blue flames on high to low.
It makes a difference.I cooked another steak tonight
after adjusting the burners and it was the best steak
off the grill i have ever done. Unbelievably good.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Gee - Are you saying that even with the burners on full blast, I shouldn't see yellow flames?

I didn't know this. Is this what I should do?

Questions (besides the flame question):

1) What can I use to clean the exterior stainless? Windex? Fantastic? Or some special cleaner?

2) Are scratches possible to get rid of? The manual says to use emery paper. Yipes! I'd be scared. I just noticed marking on the right door that I have not noticed before (and I really stared at this for days). I saw them as the sun beat down on it. Maybe it was the right angle - but it freeked me out. You know - this is my baby! The mark almost looks like someone lightly touched a steel wool to it.

3) I broke the grill in by cooking ribs. I've never done ribs FULLY on a grill before - only cooking in the oven then finishing them off on the grill. LOL What a mess. They came out really well - but grease everywhere. My burner covers are black, grill black, etc. I'm no grill expert here - but sheesh! I didn't expect the grill to look like I had it for 2 years! Of course, I didn't do the cleaning recommendations in the manual (don't let grill cool, dip brush in water, steam, repeat, etc.) Heck - do people really clean their grill before they even eat? Am I missing something? Anyhoo - my grill is blackened and I don't know how to get it off without oven cleaner! On the other hand - I know people who barely clean their grills. :) Advice?

I semi-feel similar to when you get your first scratch in your brand new car. :)


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I have the shutters all the way open and my flames are quiet by still have some yellow on low and a lot of yellow on high.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

rosesposey2:
Just because you never heard of something doesn't mean it not good.
There 100s & 100000's of company's who have other people/mfg make their products
Does home depot make husky tools NO
Does Sears make craftsman NO
Does Craftsman make power tools NO
Does Sears make Kenmore NO
Does Kenmore make grills NO
Does Sams make Makers Mark NO
Does Radio Shack Make TV & Stereos NO
Does costco make kirland refrig /washer / dryer NO it whirlpool
I could go on and on, but you get my point
ALL these people HAVE someone manufacture their products to THEIR exact SPECS

Same with costco. Virco is an over sees mfg'r, and cost costco said "if we buy lots of these will you make them like this.

I am not a marriage counselor,
If your husband want a weber, by all means give him one.


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Don't listen to your husband on this one. Trust me!

(Still drooling over this grill). What a sleeper!


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to mfitech

to mfitch,
Are you sure you opened them and not closed them.
Mine were almost all the way open (about 3/4 to 7/8.
I went 100%, all is good. At night when it is dark i see some yellow, but very little.
Is your propane tank 100% full. Burn some off by cooking. 30 min. or so
The problem is not enough air is mixing with the fuel.
If you have them all the way open, and you still see yellow at low, run you grill at high for 30 min.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Does anyone know who to contact regarding the Virco Grill conversion to natural gas? And do you know the cost and difficulty in making the change?


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To Darkmenace & MFItch,
TO ADJUST FLAMES: (CALL THE MANUFACTUER. I AM NOT A SPECIALIST)
******REMOVE THE PROPANE BOTTLE...***
1. OPEN THE DOORS (my grill doesn't have doors)
2. REMOVE THE DRIP PAN. (my grill doesn't have a drip pan)
3. LAY ON YOUR BACK AND LOOK UP WHERE THE CONTROL KNOBS CONNECT TO THE BURNER PIPES. (this i have)
4. YOU WILL SEE A PHILLIPS SCREW, LOSSEN IT AND OPEN THE AIR VENTS. ((YOU SEE YELLOW BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH AIR.))
5. RE TIGHTEN- BECAREFUL NOT TO STRIP - JUST SNUG IT UP
Blue flame vs yellow flame, BLUE = very hot and no black residue. Also it is much more efficient to cook with. For example just look at a torch or a After burner on a fighter jet
Think i'll check with sunbeam on this, i have a feeling the burnners are sealed.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

To contact Virco here is the phone number:

1-909-598-8799

To get the natural gas conversion kit ($50 shipping incl) send a check or money order to:

Virco Associates
145 Brea Canyon Road
Walnut, CA 91789

Once they receive the funds they will UPS Ground you the kit which contains all of the new orifices and a natural gas regulator.

It is a GOOD price for this especially since you are getting the equipment that was matched to this grill. The buzzkill of the situation is you are looking at about a week best case to get the kit which is just wrong :^)

I think I am going to run it on propane until I get the kit in the mail and can get my buddy (who is a plumber who works with natural gas hookups) over to do the work for me. Even though it is a conversion kit, for the sake of your neighbors and pets, have someone who knows what they are doing install this correctly ;^)

Shawn


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Just bought one based on the feedback on this list :^)

It is getting delivered tomorrow. I am going to run it on propane until I get the conversion kit, which I also ordered today.

This is a monster...

Shawn


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

The burners are adjustable. Mine are wide open for a
blue flame and it made a difference.Yellow flames, black
smoke.The above modifications work.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

According to Virco the Natural Gas Conversion kit includes
the valve and orifices. You will still need to purchase the regulator from a hardware store for around $25.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Thanks for the clarification mattw22 - I hope I didn't cause any confusion.

Shawn


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Five more new grills in Bloomfield Hills.


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I ended up buying it at the Livonia Costco. I bet those five Grills will be gone by Saturday.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I'm happy to see you get one. You won't be disappointed.Did
you adjust those burners? Easy to do.


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Unfortunately I need to wait for the Natural gas conversion kit to come in. I imagine that if you use
propane you must go through a tank pretty quickly.


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I just made a huge batch of hot wings tonight.

Oh! I'm so glad I bought this! It was pretty much dump them on the grill and forget it. Every one was cooked perfectly and EVENLY. No hotspots, need for rotation, etc. What a breeze!


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RE: PICTURES of the New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

I thought some folks might appreciate some pictures
of this (big) puppy - check it out at:

http://www.komar.org/bbq/virco

alek


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Here's a pic with the side shelf & handle installed.

There really was nothing to install/setup except these 2 items, it was all ready to go. Isn't it PURDY?


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Oh - And how about that beautiful cover? Is it NICE or what? Love the color.


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Also - you can switch the overhanging shelf with the handle bar on the right side.


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Who Actually Manufactures the Virco Grill?

Nice looking grill.

Just going by the pictures, not seen one first hand, it looks like this grill would be a much better buy then the new $1500 grill Sam's Club has out this year. But for the money, I'm very happy with my $599 Member's Mark grill.

The main question I would have is who actually manufactures this grill and what other lines of grills, or other products this company may manufacture? How long have they been in business? The one thing that sold me on the grill from Sams Club is who the actual manufacture was and how well they standby their products.

I seen the contact name and telephone number was listed earlier in this thread for the Virco grill. In doing a search about that company, they come up as being just an importer. What happens if this company decides in the future not to import this product anymore, where would you need to go for parts or service?

Not trying to knock the Virco line of grills, I would just hate to see someone possibly being unable to get service or replacement parts for this grill sometime in the future after spending this kind of money.

Tim


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I have just bought the new Virco and i love it.
I am looking to add a griddle to this gril does any one know if this option is available and if not how to get or rig one?


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Hey, been doing research on this grill, after comparing to similar ones at EXPO ($$$WOW$$$), wound up here. The only Vircos I found were a drug and an office furniture company. I tried to call the 1-800 number listed on the box - got a sort of fax whistle. Tried the number given by shstevens, no answer. So if I buy this thing and it doesn't work in a few months, what do I do?

Thanks!

Katharine, stuck with my 3rd broken down Sunbeam in 7 years, with a big ole' freezer of Omaha steaks just waiting to be grilled


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Virco just sent me out the Natural gas conversion kit. It basically replaces the 4 valves in the front, the rear rotisserie burner nozzle and the side burner orifices.
It takes about 30 minutes to remove and install the new valves. I found that Virco over tightened some of the screws on the front panel and the Philips head on a few were striped. Everything is included in the kit except the natural gas regulator. I havent actually tried the grill with natural gas yet. I need to pickup a natural gas regulator.


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Mattw22 - Can I ask what that cost you? And how long it took for them to send it to you?

Am I understanding correctly on the following...(I'm not well versed on converting)... One has the option of redrilling all the holes by hand or buying a kit? Is that correct? I would like to convert this a few years down the road.

How did you find their 'customer service'?


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

The kit cost $50 direct from Virco. I think it took about 2 weeks from the time I mailed out the check.
It looks like you could drill out the holes in the values to convert it to natural gas. It looks identical to the propane values just with a larger hole.
It came with a instruction sheet so I didnt really need to contact customer support.


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Matt - I understand. Thank you. It's nice to know they have a kit avail. to us for this.


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Somebody help me with the deflectors under the grill grid.

MM has ceramic and Virco has Stainless. Which better and why?

Also--body of MM is steel and Virco appears to be stainless. How much difference in the long run?

Virgo burners are stainless tubes--MM are cast iron. What's the long term difference.

Thanks to all you guys for providing this great resource.


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Dipsage can tell you about his cast iron MM burners rusting months after purchase.


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I have to agree with everything about the Virco being a little better EXCEPT the stainless burners. Sure, iron will rust a little but they will not "burn out" nearly as fast as those thin stainless ones. Regular maintenance, as should be done on any grill, will keep the iron rust down. For the price, you can't go wrong with either grill. They are both better that anything else near their price point. I have also looked over both grills considerably. Iron burners and $200 difference is the main reason I purchased the MM yesterday.


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Seems the cast iron burners should last just about forever with normal care (just like high-end Wolf , Thermador, and Viking indoor units). We know It will rust with exposure to moisture, but that is no problem unless you just ignore it for years, and even then it can be remedied with some work. I have not seen any stainless steel burners problems documented in these forums, so If there is a certain guage that is problematic, I guess that could be useful info if someone can provide a real scenario where that was a problem, otherwise peoples opinions on possibilities of micro-fractures, heat stress, and metalurgy (sp?) seem pretty useless (note the SS burners have some of the highest component warranties). For you MM owners, there is one very high end/pricey unit that gives an option of iron or stainless. They recommend stainless for those living in humid or coastal environment, otherwise they generally recommend their iron. Check out allgrills.com for some nice units. Interesting reading, and will make you feel pretty good about a $599 grill with all the features of the MM. You could spend close to that for the JennAir at Lowes (their nicest unit IMO) and it is not even close. As for myself, I'm coughing up the extra $200 for the Virco for reasons outlined elsewhere ;-)


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How big is the Virco? (H,L,W) Would the box fit in the back of a Mazda MPV? Or is it possible to uncrate it at Costco and squeeze it in? Could be a moot point if Costco doesn't have any in the near future.


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Is Virco part of the Ellipse family?

Now this grill looks an awful lot like the Ellipse 32" at "allgrills.com". The burners and flame deflectors appear to be identical. Hmmmmm...


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I was able to finish converting my grill to Natural Gas yesterday. While Virco said you need a Natural gas regulator you actually dont. You can hook
the gas line directly into the unit.

The only problem I ran into and others might want to check is that all 4 igniter points in the grill are lighting when you press the black ignition button.
I noticed that three of my igniter points werent sparking so I re-adjusted them closer to the burners. I imagine they probably moved during shipping.

I didnt need to make any adjustments for natural gas. It lit a blue flame on all the burners the first time.


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Technimac - Hmmmm... It does have some similarities doesn't it? Only the specs (BTUs, etc.) are less than the Virco. The side burner option looks identical - brass burners, lid, shape, handles.

If you do a google search on "Ellipse 4032 grill" and scroll down to the 4032 - that one seems to have specs that match more. $1700 plus $150 for the side burner put that one at $1850. But it seems the side burner would be 'floating' instead of built in as the side burner would replace the side shelf (unlike the Virco which is built into the unit). Also the Virco doesn't have the scalloped-sided side shelf. But I agree that the guts seem similar. Interesting. Then again - I've seen similarities in so many brands. Handles seem the same, etc. Also can't tell if it has a drip tray. And it has exposed wheels, etc.

Good spotting - There sure are similarities.

I have a van. We didn't have to remove it from the box. We had the thing on a cart, leaned it into the van and slid it in on its side. The shortest width in my van is 49.5 inches. The box JUST fit in at about 48ish inches wide.

Without the box, it measures 45" wide and about 47" tall. The left side shelf and right handle bar are inside the grill to be attached.

Hope this helps. We uncrated it in the garage, rolled it to the entry of the house, up 2 steps, through the house, down a step & onto the patio. It was tough - the thing is HEAVY!


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Interesting reading here. I have a couple of comments to add. First, anything I have ever bought and had a problem with at Costco there was no problem getting a refund, on the spot. Secondly, most products are made of components bought from different vendors and then assembled and sold under a brand name. If I was going to buy something this spendy, IF there was a problem, Costco would make it good but more than likely I could find the components myself to fix whatever was ailing it in the first place. Once an engineer always an engineer I guess. LOL I must say though that I am a cheapskate and would never concider spending this much on an outdoor grill. LOL I have stainless in my kitchen and it is the biggest mistake I made when we built and outfitted our home. It is too labor intensive to keep looking good. Dust,finger prints, smudges and scratches, even indoors.
Happy grilling and enjoy your new additions. They are beautiful and I am sure you will really enjoy them.
Cathy


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"I have a van. We didn't have to remove it from the box. We had the thing on a cart, leaned it into the van and slid it in on its side. The shortest width in my van is 49.5 inches. The box JUST fit in at about 48ish inches wide."

Why is that not a surprise?

Another house frau with a van.

Spending all day yacking on the internet about a grill while the poor husband is breaking his neck earning the $$.
How predictable.


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Not all stainless steel is created equal. The Virco grill is said to be all 304 stainless steel. This is a very good grade and is non magnetic ( a magnet should not stick ). The burners should hold up. Many cheap stainless grill parts are 409 stainless.( Charbroil SS burners for $29.99)
We know these don't last. 409 stainless is an inferior grade, is very magnetic and will rust without salt and heat, but its half the price of 304.


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Well my Virco has been sitting on my back patio for a week now waiting to be inaugurated. I have ordered the conversion kit for NG from Virco. Since all I only have is an old style LP tank I'll have to wait it out.

Can someone tell me what is needed to hook up the grill to a NG stub? It sounds like you need a shutoff valve going to a regulator and then beyond that I am lost. Also where would be the best place to get the fittings, etc? Anyone that has done this, I would appreciate if they could clue me in. I really want to have everything ready for when the conversion kit arrives so I can get to grilling right away.


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Sorry Dwayneq - Can't help you, just want to add another question to the pot....

Has anyone added a propane tank fill level indicator to their Virco? Or can anyone recommend anything? I've never shopped for one and aren't sure if they even work adequately, but it would be a nice feature to have. I guess I could buy a 2nd tank - but I'm not a big fan of having flammables sitting around the garage AND taking up room.

Thanks!


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

Some of the tank exchange units (in front of grocery and hardware stores, even the IFA) have tanks with built in fill level indicator (Blue Rhino?). At least that is the case in our area. The one on the Sam's club MM unit goes by weight.


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dwayneq-
You should be able to find all the natural gas fittings at Home Depot. There are many ways you can do it. You can screw on a shutoff valve to the stub and then screw your quick-connect line to the other end. That might be the easiest. You can also look at compression fittings.

You dont need a regulator for natural gas you can screw you quick-connect gas line directly into the grill.


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"Has anyone added a propane tank fill level indicator to their Virco? Or can anyone recommend anything?"

Hello and Peace meagain:
There are two(2)fill level indicators that are on the market that I am aware of. One is a gauge that attaches between your regulator and the tank...it just screws on. It measures pressure and I suspect it is fairly accurate. It sells for $20.00. I think I saw it in a Target store. The other is like a refrigerator magnet that attaches to the bottom portion of your tank and measures ambient temp. towards the bottom of the tank. It sell for about $3.00. I have had no success with these thermal indicators. They come with Blue Rhino refills too. I would consider the $20.00 on....however, it might be worth it to just buy a new tank for $30.00 and keep it filled as a backup.


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Last night I wanted to check this grill out first hand, so I went to my local costco where they had 6 on hand (hawaii, if you are wondering). I have been looking at grills from Weber ($400) to high end DCS ($4000). For $879 (locally in Hawaii, little P.O'd that it isn't $799 like on the mainland but that is life in Hawaii) I am not sure you can get a better bang for your buck.
People have been worried about the name brand, and the availibility of parts down the road. So I asked Costco about it, and they said "Just return it to us." I said what, just return it to you. The manager of the store specifically told me it is a indefinate return policy, so 5 years down the road if a burner goes bad and you can't get replacement parts, bring the whole grill back and they will return your money. They said the stand behind their products 100%.
Now can that beat the Samns club MM? Not sure, not a member of Sams, but if they back their product like Costco does, it doesn't matter if Virco only lasts a year to 50 years, Costco will always be around, and will back you up 100% no matter the time.

So needless to say, I am getting a Virco!


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Cool! Please let us know when you get it. Ummm... It's REALLY heavy! :)


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Lpsage - OK fine. Not sure why the flipflop. My guess is you might have gotten a slap on the hand by Spike? If so, know it wasn't me. I know alot of people here (other boards) do that but I don't play that way. And dislike people that do.

I bought the Yashido sauce. Haven't checked it out yet so I don't know if it will fly. It would be nice to have something already premade for last minute dinners, etc.

Not sure how I'll handle the tank issue either. Right now I have one tank and we've had the thing about a month. I've zero clue as to how much fuel is in there and fear I'll abruptly run out during cooking.


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Meagain,
No hand slapping from anyone, just decided it was all silly.

I heard Heinz sent a group over to Japan to find and buy out the rights/recipie for a Japanese cooking sauce. They went to mom&pop type places and came across the recipie for the Yoshida and bought it. Then of course Costco buyers went after it for Costco.

Now the truth be known, I can't stand Sam's Club as a rule.
In fact, I joined, paid the $35 membership at the time solely to buy the MM grill in mid-May of last year. OTOH, we routinely shop at Costco. They have an excellent wine selection. Their buyers hit the right chords in many merchandise lines. I won't put Sam's Club down, they have some quality things there but the Wal-Mart corp. culture prevails and the customer service reflects that.

I was eyeballing the Kirkland for at least a year or so, I suspected it was a DCS and then one time I saw 'DCS' branded on the pallet of one and I was convinced. I even called or emailed DCS to ask if they made the Kirkland grills. They told me to contact Costco for any questions about Kirkland grills. Suspicious response.

Anyway, comparing the Kirkland to the MM, I'd take the MM anyday(and did). The Virco is a good grill. I studied it up close and personal and you do get a hell of a grill for $800.

Anyway, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

BTW, I just returned from Austin and ate some "real" BBQ....no gas grills at those joints! Mesquite cooked turkey, brisket.........
You can get a cast iron smoker box at Wal-Mart for $8.00. It will work fine partially placed over your flavorizer bars.
I just bought hickory. I've had my fill of Mesquite.
Also, one of those stir fry baskets with the holes works great for shrimp and vegetables. Try marinating the shrimp in several crushed cloves of elephant garlic, lime and cilantro(fresh of course) and then wok 'em on your grill.


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Sounds good. Haven't done shrimp yet and want to do more with veggies and I do have one of those gadgets for that.

I don't know what I'm going to make next (over the weekend) but I'm thinking about shishkebob. Need to come up with a good marinade/sauce. I had one I liked years ago but lost the recipe. I know it had some type of mustard in it. I at a football tailgate party and the folks next to us had the recipe from their Aussie grill book? So good.

Lpsage - when you grill the shrimp are they in the shell or not?


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Meagain,
Shrimp is so reasonably priced as much of it comes from the Far East and is farm raised, that I find the bigger the better....especially for guests. Costco has them every weekend and the various supermarket chains are always running specials. However, big shrimp, farm raised or not, have big ugly veins. So to answer your question meagain, I remove the shells and thoroughly devein the buggers and then marinate them and/or cook them. Sometimes for that peel and eat affair I cook them with the shell on, but only with smaller shrimp. The hills not worth the climb to clean and devein the small-medium ones.


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I just signed up last night as a member of this great site! I sent an e-mail to one of the other members not realizing I could post here and have wisdom from many!

Just bought the new Costco stainless grill. I am a newbie to grilling also. Was I supposed to have some "briquettes" (sp?) with the grill? Or do they only come with the 100.00 to 200.00 grills? :o)


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jayg,
Did you buy the Kirkland grill from Costco, or the Virco Classic? If you bought the Virco, it does not come with any briquettes. If you bought the Kirkland, I would personally take it back and wait for the Virco to come in. It is light years better than the Kirkland. When I was at Costco last week, I noticed they had the Kirkland for $699.00, not $849.00 like it used to be. I think even for $700 it is still too expensive. The MM from Sam's is a better deal for only $599.95, but if you got the Virco, good for you. Hands down, the best grill in the sub $1000 price range.

bsbbq


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Right.. The Virco is only $50 more than the Kirkland. No comparison. Hopeing you bought the Virco.


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I went to Costco this morning. They had 4 Virco's on the floor. I went back this afternoon and only one was left. Needless to say, it left with me. We did have to adjust the valves, but that was easy, following the above instructions. Did a steak and some hot links tonight and it works great. Clean up the the grate was easy, the only thing I am a little concerned with is the permanent tray at the bottom and how to clean it properly.


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Can someone post the specs of this Grill? What does it come with? How big is the grilling surface? Does it have a rotisserie? Please details.


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3 main burners @ 20K ea. Infrared rotisserie and side burner at 12K ea. 84K BTU total! Grilling surface is approx. 20" X 30". Includes very heavy duty rotisserie and cover. The sides, front & back are skirted around the casters to help hide them. SS burners, cast brass side burner, ss grates, ss everything! Factory conversion available to convert to NG which does not void warranty. This grill rocks!! Haven't made a bad thing yet with it. Go get one before they are gone!! (I like mine, if you could not tell) Good luck.

bsbbq


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I learned of the Virco grill from this web site - Thanks! I went to Costco yesterday and they had two left. There was a crowd of people looking over the floor sample and about a half dozen people who were bickering among themselves as to who these BBQ's belonged to. One lady was screaming that she was there first and it belonged to her and another couple said it belonged to them and another couple said they would take it if someone backed out while another person was taking claim to it by by keeping his hand on it and saying it was his, etc. I was waiting for him to lick it like in the VW commercial! Other people were claiming the boxed unit beside it and more people were gathering the longer we looked at it. Some of the people gave us the evil eye and told us to get lost because these BBQ's were already sold and they didn't need anymore people involved, etc. After a minute or so of looking it over and being told several times by several people that it beloned to them, I immediately went to the front desk and got the store manager and said I wanted to buy the Virco BBQ in the box 'right now', but there's a bunch of people in front of them bikering over who they belong too, who claimed them first, etc. He rolled his eyes and then asked us again while grinning if we were absolutely sure we wanted this BBQ and we said lets ring it up right now. We stayed out of sight because we didn't want to get involved with the crowd around the BBQ's, but we could see things really getting heated between the people when we peeked around the corner from across the store at the crowd and the Costco guys while they were loading it up on a rolling dolly to move it. The store manager said that was one ugly crowd bikering over this and the last BBQ. He said one guy was swearing at him over this, but that I was the first person to actually pay for it so I got it!!!

While we were unloading and setting it up at home we noticed one of the welds on a rod was broken on the warming rack, so we went back to Costco to see if they could replace it. Much to our initial surprise, the other Virco BBQ was still there about an hour later when we returned, but when I went to open the BBQ to see if its rack was in good shape, the lady who was screaming that it belonged to her about an hour earlier jumped out from nowhere and told me to take my hands off her BBQ because she had already bought and paid for it and was just waiting for her husband to come down and pick it up. The store manager comfirmed she bought it immediately after we bought ours and things just got nastier after we left. He said he didn't have any parts to give us and that Hawaii was the only Costco that had these right now from what he could tell, but that it was an active item and more stores would be getting them soon. Today, I called Virco and told them my story and they gave me a new warming rack without any hassle whatsoever. In fact, they were real nice about the whole thing and that left a very good impression in my mind about their customer service. I hope they continue to treat customers like this, but I'm sure they'll have their share of growing pains as any company does if they do grow larger.

This is one NICE BBQ! Even the 30 inch Jennair at BBQ's Galore for $2500 doesn't look finished as nicely as the Virco in my opinion. Many of the stainless BBQ's I've looked at costing $1500 - $2500 look as though they're built on an assembly line and put together with sheetmetal screws, panels, etc. Don't get me wrong, the Jennair and many others are fine units, but the finish work on my Virco is better than anything costing twice as much from what I've seen. The 304 stainless used is not too thin or flimsy like some BBQ's I've seen and the welded panel junctions are ground to a nice finish like on the $2800 Lynx at BBQ's Galore. There's no doubt there's better BBQ's on the market, but not in this price range from what I've seen. If Virco continues to promote this product and keep up with the demand while providing good customer service, then they may just be setting a new price/quality standard in the BBQ industry for stainless BBQ's.

If you're thinking of buying a new stainless BBQ, then get a first hand look at all the stainless BBQ's you can in every price range so you can compare them first hand with the Virco. Don't forget to bring a truck or a Van when you go to Costco because you just may come home with a new virco BBQ once you see it in person.


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LOL What a great story!!! Since you are into detail...
Notice how the front side corners are 'clipped'? I love that detail. They didn't have to do that.

Please let us know how it works for you when you cook that first virgin meal.


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Yes, the detail on this is great compared to other products costing twice as much and sometimes more. I cooked Costco New York Steaks & corn on it last night and they were yummy! The flames are mostly blue at every setting after making my adjustments, but I still have little hints of orange on all the burners when they're turned up to the maximum setting. I cooked a potato and some vegitables on it for my lunch today and in just a few minutes I'll be cooking more mixed veggies along with some pork & turkey burgers. Tomorrow is chicken and this weekend we're going to try out the roaster. So far, it's been great and I'm very happy. I may even buy another one to keep at another house!


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Last night as I drove home I stopped by Lowes to look t the Jenn Air Grills I heard about and was very dissipointed in the quality. The two units they had in the showroom were already falling apart.

I am dying to see the new Virco grills in person. I called the local Costco and as expected they have none in stock (not even a floor model). They could not tell me when they will get more. They don't have a wait list and they do not deliver. The only way to get it I guess is to call them every day to find out if they got any in or are getting any in soon. Any suggestions on how I can get one soon? What did you guys have to do to get one?

Also, exactly how big is this grill with the packaging and all? Please post the exact dimensions of the box it comes in. I have a Honda Odyssey minivan and I suspect that as soon as I hear that some store has it I have to rush to get it before anyone else.

Lastly do you need to be a member at Costco to buy it? I know they use to have memberships and do not know if they still have that.

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aakin - The manager of your costco can look in their computer and tell you what stores in your general area have them and how many.

After I bought mine April 28th. It is now June 11th. In that time, my Costco didn't get them in.

The dimensions are posted somewhere here. Just look on this page at all the Virco threads. As well as above.

From memory, my van is 48.5 inches wide. The box was approx 47" wide.

Membership is 30-35 bucks. Still worth the membership just to get this grill.


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The box is about 47" wide, 48" tall, by about 26" deep. You might have to do what I did. I found some of these at the Costco in St. George, Ut. I live in Salt Lake. The Costco in St. George is serviced from the facility in San Diego while the stores in Salt Lake are serviced by the facility in Seattle. At the time I wanted mine, the stores in Salt Lake didn't expect any in until now, but I was inpatient. I found someone here locally that was also looking for one, I called the manager at the store in St. George and had two of these units put on hold for me. They had 4 at the time including the floor model. This was about a 625 mile round trip, but it was worth every mile. I have included a link to a pic of my truck with the two grills. You might call some Costcos that are not so close to you and maybe get the same luck? Good luck.

bsbbq

Here is a link that might be useful: Double Vircos


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Hey bsbbq, you should exchange that picture with the one with our happy mugs in it ;-)

It appears Salt Lake-Utah Valley has units in stock as of Sunday. I would assume all the stores served by Seattle Warehouse recieved 10-12 units at the same time. Costco.com rep said they would have these available for shipping at costco.com at the end of May, but they do not (plus shipping is going to cost several hundered dollars).

Good luck!


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Hey Delray, (And anyone else who wants to see)
Here is the other picture. Along with a web page I started. Everyone read this and send me some stuff to add to it. I will maintain it and we can all have a point to share by instead of a thread "somewhere" where we can't seem to find it again. It might help, I don't know, just a thought. I will set up the needed links and pages on it to make it more organized. If someone wants to post pics or whatever, just send it too me on this link.

bsbbq

Here is a link that might be useful: Sharing Virco & BBQ Stuff


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Parts for the Classic

Some time ago we had a discussion regarding the adjustment the burners on the Classic to get a blue flame. I was never able to get this to work like the rest of you. I did not really worry about it since it grills better then any barbeque that I have ever used. Then even though the tank had gas I could not get the burners to light. I determined that my regulator was bad. I had also been unable to tighten the rubber cover correctly on the side burner igniter since day one.

I had not bothered to call about the igniter, Why do today what you can do in a couple of months.

Since I could not ignore the regulator I called Virco Monday and asked for both parts. They asked me to fax them my receipt and a description of the parts that I needed. They then called me back within an hour and verified my parts order. I received the parts UPS on Tuesday morning (24 hour service). I just installed them and all problems are gone. I have gas at the burners, the flames are blue and the rubber cover on the igniter fits like a glove.

Vircos support was without equal.


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They're BACK.....

Just got back from the Costco at Park Meadows (it's just a little south of Denver. They've gotten in a new shipment. Mine's in the garage now if I can get someone to help me heft it over the little fence surrounding the patio.....


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The Classic Grill at Costco (Virco) rotisserie

What does anyone know about using the rotisserie feature? I see the electrical switch to turn the rotisserie - but what about the flame? What is the Rotisserie gas knob affect, is it a flame? or do I use the middle grill burner flame....
How do I determine the appropriate flame setting as well as hours/ pound cooking time? If this is in the manual we missed it. Tips and recipes Welcomed!

P.S. we have really enjoyed the BBQ! Cleans up easily, too.


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I cooked two normal size chickens on mine in about 2 hours. Just use to rear Roto burner only and put a pan under the birds to catch moister. Use a meat thermometer to be sure.

bsbbq


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Last night purchased a Virco Grill from Costco. Based on what I have been reading here on availability I feel I really lucked out. I have been calling several of the local Costco's and checking on their inventory ever since I found out about this Grill. And it seamed none of the Costco's would ever have any in stock. Then two days a couple of days ago the gentleman I spoke to at the Edison, NJ store said they got 3 in a little earlier. I asked him if he knew how many were still available. He went to the floor and checked and said only one was left. This was the middle of the day and I was at work so I couldnt just run over and pick it up. I asked him if he could hold it and he said they are not supposed to but said that he would put my name on it and move it to a different part of the store and when I got there later that evening to check that location. If it happened to be there then it would basically be mine.

Well, really busy at work so I couldn't go that night. Went there the following night and sure enough it was where he said it would be with a sign on it that said hold for___.

Not being a member of Costco I immediately went to the membership desk and became a member. And loaded it up into my Odyssey and brought it home.

Can't wait to set it up and get cooking.

I just want to thank everyone on this board for their valuable advice. Once agin I feel it has resulted in me getting an excellent product at a great value. (I use the tractors boards on Garden web regullarly and purchased my tractor based on the advice of the good folks that are regulars there).

I will post my experience as soon as I have some and hopefully be able to return the favor by providing good advice to others.

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The Rotisserie Feature

Put the meat on the skewer. Put the end of the skewer through the hole in the lid and into the rotisserie motor. Turn the rotisserie gas knob on and push the igniter button. I have never adjusted the knob to any other position then hi. You wont believe how easy it is to use this feature. While the meat is turning baste it with what ever strikes your fancy. I have cooked prime rib, pork roast and chicken. Everything came out great.


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May I please ask for help?
Am not an expert on grills. About the Costco Virco:

1--Does Virco Grills have a website?

2--What is their 800 #?

3--How does their guarantee stack up against the best?

4--Is it safe to store two full propane tanks under the hot grill?

5--Since this Classic Deluxe in not made by Virco( from the postings it seems that they are only the importer) Who actually makes them?


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Virco does not have a web site for their grills, but if you would like to see some pictures of it and read some more on the Virco, visit http://www.equinoxcs.com/Grillingweb/index.htm

I know that the 800# is listed somewhere on these forums, but I can't remember it off hand. I know that it is on the front of the grill.

As far as warranty goes, I know that there are some grills out there that are made by Great Outdoors and other manufacturers that carry as much as a 75 year warranty on the castings and a 25 year warranty on the cast brass burners. I believe Virco is 1 year on everything, 2 or 3 years on all SS parts and 5 years on burners. The Members Mark from Sam's is 1 year on everything.

I keep an extra filled propane tank under mine. It does not seem to get that hot down there.

The Virco Classic Deluxe is actually made in Taiwan. The name of the manufacturer is not known to me, but the craftsmanship appears to be excellent and much better than the Chinese. When you figure into the equation that a comparable grill from Viking or DCS would be 3-4K, and the quality seems very close, I don't see much comparison.

bsbbq


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Hi, I just purchased the "virco", i need some help. I could not find the scewer. Everything else was there. I think I may have overlooked it. Thanks


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Hi I just purchased the"virco" grill from costco's. I cannot find the scewter. Maybe I overlooked it. Help!


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It should be in the bottom of the shipping box, in the rear, at the base........just above the wheels.....


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Thank you !!! I guess I don't have a skewer, there was no bottom on my box, only cardboard around the wheels.


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Wow! Nice to see so many fans of the grill I just purchased!

I had Tuesday off (June 18) and was getting ready for a party that night. So I went to my local San Leandro Costco to get chips etc. Well, there on the floor were four Virco grills, one out of the box. I took one look, and wished I had brought my truck. I was back later that day with the truck and brought one home. IMHO a full size pickup truck is needed to carry this thing.

I also had some ignitor problems but after adjustment of the gaps they all seem to work ok. I also fiddled with the connectors underneath the control panel and that seemed to help. I also found some fraying of the glass fabric cover on the ignitor wiring to the rear rotisserie burner, where it exits the back of the cabinet. I moved the whole cable up a bit to expose an unfrayed portion to the metal edge. I'm planning on wrapping the cable with some heat resistant tubing where it goes through that area, to prevent more fraying. I had a similar problem with a table-top patio heater I got at Costco a while ago. The ignitor cable frayed and shorted out on some metal. Easy enough to fix once I discovered the cause.

I cooked a rib steak on it last night and it came out great. It was kind of hard to see some of that beautiful stainless get carbonized, but what the heck, it's a BBQ grille.

The right door on mine has a very minor crease in it,which it took me a couple of days to notice. I'm not about to return this behemoth because of that! The burners all seem to function perfectly, with nice blue flames.

Oh, I don't think the handle and the shelf are interchangeable. The spacing on the bolt holes are wider for the shelf than for the handle.

Still have to hook up the rotisserie motor. I'll probably do a chicken tomorrow.

All in all this is a beautiful, extremely well made grill. I've been using charcoal for years... I have a Kingsford egg shaped grille that I use to roast chicken and turkey. It comes out great, but I'm tired of all the smoke inhalation I inevitably get doing this. I also have a New Braunfels horizontal smoker with separate fire box. I have been consistently disappointed with the dried out results I get with this one. It's also very labor intensive, adding just the right amount of wood/charcoal and trying to keep the temperature even. I'm keeping both, because sometimes you just want that real smoke, but the Virco Classic will be my main grill. Faster and cleaner!

Oh, and thanks to those who posted the info on the natural gas conversion. I'm going to order one of those kits right away. I'll have to run the gas line a considerable distance to the patio, but it will be worth it in the long run.

One minor complaint: the wheel locks are very hard to get at... but they do work.

Just for grins, I took a magnet to the whole unit. It's nearly all 304 non-magnetic. The only magnetic parts I found was the surround for the ceramic rear burner, and some nuts holding the chassis bolts under the cooking unit.

As for the stainless burner tubes not holding up to heat, I hope they do ok. After all, they use stainless steel for automotive exhaust systems... which contain a lot more corrosive gases than propane.


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Oh yeah... I bought my Virco grill on Tuesday, at which time there were three in the box and one demo. When I went back on Friday, there was only the demo left... with knobs missing (although they all seemed to be sitting inside the grill). Glad I moved fast on my purchase.

I may give Virco a call about the ignitor wiring and the slight crease in the right hand door. Maybe they will ship me a new door.


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This thread is about to fill up, so here's a new thread, "part 2":

Here is a link that might be useful: Costco Virco


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RE: Beveled Shelf Support

I found that the thumbscrew on the rotisserie spit hit the shelf support for the warming shelf. So I got out my trusty Dremel tool and beveled the edge of the shelf support.

Here is a link that might be useful: Beveled shelf support


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Is this a freestanding grill? I am looking for a built in that doesn't cost the earth. Any ideas?


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RE: New Stainless Grill at Costco (Virco?)

OK, It was because of this string of posts that I decided to buy one of these used. I'm glad I did. I've had it for most of the summer and love it. The all stainless construction makes clean up a snap. If the stainless grills get beyond just a brushing I'll put them in the oven on the self-cleaning cycle and like Emril say's "Bammm". I was concerned that the side burner might not work well as I've never had one that catches spills but it works so much better than my old grill. The guy I bought it from told me he paid almost $900 for it new so since it was a few years old I wondered if it was worth the $550 he asked for it. Being all stainless what can go bad. It was so worth it!!!! Love this grill. :)


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So, after all this time, how happy are you still with this grill? I have a chance to buy a used one (when were they last made? ) and would love to hear from all of you that bought one

thank you!


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