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Problems with Toto Vespin II?

Posted by cottonpenny (My Page) on
Thu, Apr 19, 12 at 20:29

I'm choosing plumbing for my new build. I had picked out this toilet online for looks and because my mom has a Toto in her beach house. Not sure what model she has. And because I had read about Toto here and seemed to get good reviews.

The plumbing store person said that she had recently had a complaint about it not cleaning the bowl very well. She recommended a few Kohlers, but Kohler doesn't make a skirted model, which I like.

But this was right after she told me that because they were a Kohler distributor they aren't allowed to show Toto, etc., so obviously she has motivation to sell Kohler over Toto...

Of course, that means the builder's discount isn't as good so using the Toto will cost us $$. Like $100 per toilet so not much but everything is just starting to add up.


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RE: Problems with Toto Vespin II?

We also are planning to order the Toto Vespin II for one bathroom and the Drake II for the other two bathrooms. I will be interested in reading the responses you get from people who have actual experience with Toto's double cyclone flushing system.

Is it possible that the sale's person was talking about the Vespin I? If I remember correctly, I think the older model had a different flushing system.

All I know is that I do not want a Kohler based on repeated experiences in at least 3 different locations that I visit fairly often (store, doctor's office, etc.) I don't know the specific style in each place, but I consistently have trouble getting these toilets to clear away even small pieces of tissue. Maybe I am being unfair to Kohler, but those repeated problems make me reluctant to bring one into my home.

RE: Problems with Toto Vespin II?

We have the Vespin II with sanagloss and haven't had any problems. But, we have only been in the house for 3 weeks, so I have no long term information.

RE: Problems with Toto Vespin II?

toilets get lots of response on GW....I actually think I have typed this very new toto Lloyd is not in yet, sitting in the showroom warehouse.....But the toilet decision made me crazy and I love GW but it can also add to the craziness. Everyone has an opinion on toilets, take all the people on GW add most house have 2-3 toilets and you gets lots of kudos and boos from everywhere. Go with your Mom's advice, that why I got Toto my sister had one in her beach house.

RE: Problems with Toto Vespin II?

I agree with not going with Kohler. I have three kohler toilets in my house and they are lousy at bowl wash down. The cascade of water is not even and does not wash the entire bowl. I will say that we have never had a clog in the 5 years we have had them. We have had to replace flapper valves and that is it. You do have to order the kohler parts though. We tried to get the "same" valves at lowes and they were worse than the one's we were replacing. The kohler replacements worked like a charm.

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