sounds like she's one of the many morons populating this world. they usually don't react very well to criticism or any form of intelligent, empowered thinking/attitude, that's why you got her so worked up by taking a stand.

people DO NOT have the right to enjoy themselves by making noise. like i said before, almost every lease in north america states one has the right to quiet enjoyment. QUIET, for f***'s sake!

be thankful you're leaving: you're headed to a nicer environment, she will always have to live with her miserable self, as will those noisy neighbors. bear in mind any type of obnoxious behavior is a form of passive-aggressive compensation, they know you are better than them and try to punish you for it. so feel good about yourself!

She should have just kept her mouth shut. She wanted to start a fight and she got what she wanted. You are worked up and she probably could care less.

My thought process says if it won't matter in 20 years, it's not worth worrying about.

I'm sure the noise was excesive and you have a right to complain BUT you complained about two different tenants. I can see how a manager could think you are blowing it out of proportion.

It will all be over in a few weeks. I would blow it off. If you want to get back just be overly friendly with her and agree with whatever she says. Kill her with kindness! I've done that and its really fun to "play" with someone. They want to fight and when you just agree will try something else to rile you up.

You're right, it is two different tenants we've complained about. BUT no one was ever willing to come to our apartment to get perspective on the noise even though I asked three different times. And it's different noise. The first tenant had hardwood floors in her bedroom which is directly about our's. She liked to wear these 3 inch high heels and pace her bedroom for quite literally hours on end in the middle of the night. We didn't ask for carpeting, we just asked that she take her shoes off because it sounded like a hammer beating on our ceiling. But again, no one would come to our apartment even when I asked! And even though there were other intrusive noises at all times of the day and night, the only time we ever said anything about it was at night when a normal person would expect to have quiet time.

Yesterday was the first day I had said ANYTHING about the loud voices and TV noise upstairs and the manager just jumped in my face assuming that I was blowing it out of proportion. No one has checked it out, no one has talked to these people. But I automatically just need to back off. That's what irritates me. There was always just an assumption that we were being overly sensensitive to it without ever checking in to it. Laziness, that's what it is.

I work in health care so I can understand how constant complaining makes people feel. But even if I'm seeing someone complaining of pain and I'm just sure they're drug seeking because they have a file 3 inches thick with other pain complaints, I still have to see the person and do something to address the issue. I can't just get in their face and tell them they're making it up and everybody has aches and pains so just deal with it. Same goes, as a manager it's her responsibility to at least attempt to address the issue instead of telling me I'm just out of line.

"She liked to wear these 3 inch high heels and pace her bedroom for quite literally hours on end in the middle of the night."

Glad your going to be moving. If you want to "thank her" for the memories, you could always play your stereo during those times when you know she is trying to sleep.

"Iron Man" by Black Sabbath comes to mind! Make sure you direct the speakers upward so no one else has to suffer for her mistake.

What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Enjoy your new home.

The high heel wearer moved out a month ago, otherwise I'd love to "thank her". There was other crap that went on too that the management never dealt with...like the time we had a package of rotten meat left on our door step. I had just gone down the hall to do laundry and when I came back it was sitting right in front of our door and I could hear loud laughter from the apartment above our's. Funny, nothing was ever said or done about that though.

And thanks, I will enjoy our new house. When we first moved in here we had intented on renting for two years and then buying a house (I'll be finished with school next year). But we just couldn't take living here any more and bumped up buying by a year. It's a nice house but I wish I could have finished school and started working full time before we bought. Oh well. Given everything that's gone on I'd be seriously tempted to go ahead and get our new puppy now (new house has fenced in yard). There's no security deposit here (not that we'll leave it trashed) and we'll be out before they could even try to evict us. Hmmmm...I'll have to think about it.