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Pro/Pro-Style Ranges Flush with Cabinets

Eric
10 years ago

I was trying to find out what pro and pro-style ranges are shallow enough so that the face of the oven door is flush or close to flush with the face of my cabinet doors.

So far, the only ones that I've found are Bertazzoni and Smeg.

Are there any others?

Comments (14)

  • _sophiewheeler
    10 years ago

    Even those can't be installed flush. That's a fire hazard/cabinet damage issue. If you want the sleekest look possible, you do a cooktop on top of a wall oven.

  • Eric
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    I know they aren't installed completely flush, but they get pretty close (within an inch).

    As for a wall oven below a cooktop, I don't know if that is a possibility for me as I need to stay with a gas (I can't upgrade my electric service due to building requiurements). The only gas wall range that I can find that will fit below a cooktop is the Verona VEBIG30. I haven't heard good things about Verona.

    Are there any other options other than the Bertazzoni or Smeg ranges, or the Verona oven with a cooktop?

  • sombreuil_mongrel
    10 years ago

    Any range sold for home use is safe to install in direct contact with cabinets. This includes the Pro Style lines. I have a GE Monogram, and it's not nearly hot enough to set the cabinets alight.
    Now real pro restaurant style ranges, like by Garland, Vulcan, others, can't be installed within 18" of base cabs. And (if you get them new) they come wilh all manner of warnings attached on tags, labels, and in the manuals. And the building inspector may even catch you up on it!
    A friend of mine installed a vulcan (with salamander!) in her old house kitchen. Without even a vent hood. The cabinets even at 18" away still got very hot; she ran it continuously when she was doing a catering job, which was her income.
    I still think with the salamander, she needed a vent hood (not to mention Halon), but, there you are, she had neither. Luckily the kitchen had cross-ventilation; she would put a box fan in a window to blow out some of the smoke and heat, winter or summer.
    Casey

  • _sophiewheeler
    10 years ago

    Yeah, just wait until that fresh white paint turns brown from the heat. Fire safety encompasses more than "it won't start a fire". Scorching paint is only cosmetic damage after all, and no warranty from anyone will cover it.

  • Jm_seattle
    10 years ago

    just to clarify, i was not suggesting you do anything that's hazardous or not inline with the product was designed. in our case, the oven was designed to have wood around it, it's just that all the pictures we saw had it surrounded by modern overlay doors. my suggestion was simply to talk to a cabinetmaker about it, as they can be quite creative.

  • jwvideo
    10 years ago

    EShatz

    Bmorepanic has a thread asking about an "Ancona" counterdepth range that has just turned up on the Costco.com wenstie. Not a brand I've ever heard of but the range looks like it might have been made by Fratelli Onofri (which I think has a factory in Ancona, Italiy).

  • fourten1j
    10 years ago

    jm_seattle: looks great! what cabinetmaker did you go with in Seattle??

  • Eric
    Original Author
    10 years ago

    The cabinets are Ikea with walnut doors from semi-handmade. I just looked up the Ancona range on costco.com and it won't work for me, it's dual fuel, i need all gas, & it's 36", I need 30". It looks like the ILVE range may work for me also. Is there anywhere that I can find the depth of ranges from the back to the face of the door? AJ Madison is inconsistent with what their depth is measuring (on some ranges it's to the door, some to the handle, some to the front overhang).

  • riverview111
    10 years ago

    Try Jade ranges. I think they have 24" deep cabs.

  • riverview111
    10 years ago

    I take that back. the Jade cabinet depth is 25".

  • PRO
    EuroChef USA
    10 years ago

    The ILVE Nostalgie GAS range is 23 5/8" deep.
    The ILVE Majestic Range- now available in all gas in 30" & 36" sizes - comes in a bit deeper at 27 3/4"
    You can find a full list of specifications at the ilveappliances.com website or you can call 866.844.6566 and speak with a specialist.

    Here is a link that might be useful: ILVE Ranges

  • Jm_seattle
    9 years ago

    Sorry for the delay, FoxCrane - we went with Tim Schultz at Seattle Custom Cabinets. Absolutely loved him!! Would definitely recommend at least getting a bid from him, as you'll probably learn a lot even during the first visit - he knows more about cabinets than the internet :)

    Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk further about it.

    Here is a link that might be useful: Seattle custom cabinets

  • Joel Sprunger
    5 years ago

    Try Fisher Payel