If you have one of the new Miele refrigerators, any model, I'd love to hear what you think of them. Pro & cons? Thanks!

Originally we were going to go with the Sub Zero 736 refrigerator; two freezer drawers on bottom.

The Miele rep says that their fridge doesn't require any regular maintenance from the homeowner. But Sub Zero requires the owner to vaccuum the coils every 6 months or the warranty will be voided.

Also Miele says that all of their appliances are energy star rated. And that the Sub Zero is not.

Other appliances we're considering are: Miele Excella dishwasher; Miele KM5676 36" electric cooktop; Miele 4840 laundry & electric dryer; Gaggenau ovens. We're hopefully getting solar that's why everything is electric.

Miele's dependable customer service & build quality sound good. On GW, I've read mixed reviews about Sub Zero.

Between the Miele fridge & the Sub Zero fridge, which would you choose?!

Thanks!
ccc123

I've no complaints about SubZero, they make a very fine product that I've always recommended to anyone who asked. SubZero's dual compressor refrigerators are far superior to any single compressor system available from other American manufacturers. Now, however, SubZero would probably be my second choice. The new Miele refrigerators also have dual compressor systems, and based on my past experience, I have an abiding trust in Miele quality and service.

Except for my cooktop, which I chose based on appearance and the quality of another German brand (a Gaggenau 36" gas model) and the SubZero refrigerators, all other major appliance in my house are Miele. Laundry, ovens, warming drawers, dishwashers and vacuums. I just don't think you can beat Miele quality and Miele service.

QUIET - nearly silent when the compressor is running
Fit and Finish are good.
Materials seem to be of really high quality
Interior lighting is incredible
Door hinges and flush fitting were are plus to us, as we used Studio Becker cabinets throughout the kitchen.

In contract to the SZ fridge/freezer drawer we put in the bar are, I like the Miele much better. I am shocked out how loud the SZ is and how quiet the Miele is.

Miele used to /still uses Liebherr to manufacture ref. unit for the Euro market. FYI - they also outsource their coffee machines.

Better check your facts and find a new salesman.

Better check your attitude and find some manners.

Neither is this a surprise to anyone either; when I have been comparison shopping nobody has blinked when I ask them which manufacturer made it so Miele could brand it. They tell me before I ask, often.

If you call Miele's toll-free number you may not get the most direct answer since this question does not need to be answered in order to provide service or to tell you they guarantee their product.

That too is not surprising.

Nothing new here. Many appliance manufacturers build for their competitors too. Been done before. Nothing wrong with that. Not illegal. Not a secret. Not a low-level activity either. High-end firms can do it too.

If you really challenge them about the differences, or lack of differences, they will always tell you that their quality control is different and thus better. This is a routine answer. They all say that.

Usually the firm that is buying another firm's manufacturing process result is able to offer more features for the same money. (!)

Hope this helps.

David

FWIW, as a third party observer, antss' post doesn't come across as screaming. I read his post as responding just as emphatically as you have in your posts, including the first one which contained a few factual anomalies. ;-)

caps or shouting as you put it, 2 words was for emphasis. I hate seeing inaccuracies on the internet that soon become "gospel" because of the "I saw it, it must be true" mentality. In addition, you ARE wrong. What facts did you make your overly broad and inaccurate assumption on ??????????

A salesman, I heard......, no, I read it on the internet, maybe it was published in a trade journal? Don't like my attitude, sorry, call the PC police. My rep around here is to tell it like it is and not sugar coat it. I know it comes off as abrasive sometimes, but I'm a no nonsense sort of person.

The Miele nameplate is on an authorized line of scale model appliance for children to play with, Think those are made in a Miele factory? What about eh modle train cars the say Miele and are stamped Marklin? Just because you had a Miele fridge made in their factory doesn't mean all fridge models were/ are made by them. I lived in Europe for a while too, and had a Miele fridge in Germany, was made by Liebherr. Should I tell everyone all Miele fridges are made by Liebherr based on that?

wa8b , Miele's anual report usually lists their factories and what they produce. It's on the website too. Can you tell me which one makes their Coffee Machines? How about the vent hoods. Hint, they are produced in Italy. Still think they make everything in house?

FWIW, the the new Miele fridges have a slightly different chasis than their BSH cousins, it makes servicing the sealed system way easier. The unit can remain installed. The computer, and control interface is also different, there is also a provision for remote monitoring by Miele built into their models that the BSH lineup doesn't have.

We just got the built in coffee, and the box and unit both say made in Germany on them...the fridge? Made in Turkey.

Thank you so much to everyone for your helpful advice & detailed information. We really appreciate it!

Based on the above thread, I think we're going to go with the Miele instead of the Sub Zero.

But if you have any other advice, or info, please let us know.

Thanks again,
ccc123