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Anybody seen/used the new Bosch Benchmark appliances?

Posted by Juno_barks (My Page) on
Sat, May 17, 14 at 15:09

I think they are shipping these now. I have largely decided to use their side-swing oven, speed oven, and flexinduction, but would love to hear from someone who has actually touched the goods!


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Hi Juno- I have been looking at current models of Bosch appliances but know nothing about the series you are talking about. Could you please elaborate?
And when does this come to market? I have not seen them. Thanks, Colleen


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Check out the Yale Appliances Blog--they've got a couple of recent reviews of the Bosch Benchmark line.
Redhead-its a brand new higher-end Bosch line. More modern looking and integrated and has features normally found in luxury appliances.


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I think they're cool but can't help but wonder what new ideas they will have to come up with to keep up such a big difference between the two models.


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My husband says he saw them at the Thermador design center in NYC two weeks ago. He said they were very cool (that's as much info as I got from him....men!). I'm wondering what is the different between the Benchmark & the 800 series beyond several hundred dollars & a different model #? I'm looking at ranges. From the website, they both look the same, and when I "compare" all of the features remain the same as well.


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Following up on my own question (which I had answered by BSH), it isn't explicitly stated on Bosch's website, but I wanted to specifically know the differences between the Benchmark & 800 series dual-fuel slide in ranges beyond $300 in list price. Here's the answer I received from BSH:

Benchmark gets following over 800

Soft close door like Thermador
20k burner vs. 18k burner
“telescopic” rack vs. just regular racks
HI/LO burner and much “lower” simmer like Thermador
TFT Control

So definitely seems like with Benchmark, Bosch is pulling a few of the 'luxury' features over from Thermador. Is it worth $300 (on a range)? You decide.


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Thanks for the responses.

I really like the side-open wall oven, and think it will work in my new kitchen. The $300+ doesn't worry me, and looks matter.
I have gotten stuck on having the microwave and oven to look good together, and the more I looked at the conventional set ups with trim kits, the less I liked them.

However, I like the (on-line) look of the bosch speed microwave (with convection and broil) over the side-opening benchmark wall oven. I also like the idea of a flush mount, which I think I can do in my Ikea kitchen.

This weekend I will visit the local appliance stores to see if they have them in stock yet -- they had said the appliances would start shipping in May, though some models not till June.

I like in Utah, and everything seems to arrive here late. So if any of you get to touch these, please do report in!

Here is a link that might be useful: comparison of Bosch benchmark vs 500/800 wall ovens


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If only the Bosch Benchmark steam oven had a broiler, this line looks like a possible option, Miele is my top contender right now.


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I thought I saw a speed oven / wall oven combination at AJMadison.


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  • Posted by nepool New England (My Page) on
    Fri, May 23, 14 at 18:31

I just saw this in the store and loved it! We currently use our Cuisinart convection/toaster oven a ton, and I really love the idea of the small convention oven/broiler/microwave for that daily stuff. Its so much bigger than my Cuisinart. The 'bottom' normal oven is very large - about 5 cubic feet, and plenty for my holiday turkey, etc.

Here is a link that might be useful: 30

This post was edited by nepool on Sun, May 25, 14 at 13:16


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These won't arrive in Utah for another four or five weeks. Torture! Still, I think I'm holding out for them.


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My husband works for a wholesaler, which is who we'll buy our appliances through. I've narrowed it down to Bosch for my range & DW. I spoke with his Bosch contact this AM to ask about when Benchmark will ship. He said Benchmark should start shipping next week. The 800 series is shipping now. His comment was by the end of June, all of the lines should be out. I told him that I was having a hard time comparing the differences between the lines (Benchmark, 800 series, etc.) on the website. He said BSH was revamping the website soon to highlight the differences. I think I'm going to take a chance and order without seeing/touching it!


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Very exciting, hokie98! Please do give us an update when you see them, use them, etc. And it sounds as if you have a great buying opportunity!


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I think I'm going to go ahead and order this week (maybe even today), with the expectation I may not see anything for several weeks/end of June. Maybe they'll surprise me sooner than that. Best of luck - the wall oven sound awesome. We had a Thermador wall oven in our last house, and I loved it (and it wasn't even anything as cool as a steam oven). I would rather have a wall oven & cooktop than a range, but a total kitchen gut & remodel isn't in the cards right now!


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Went to the appliance store yesterday and spoke with employees about the Bosch Benchmark. They don't have any on the showroom floor yet but they did say that there will not be any pricing wiggle room with the Benchmark line--Bosch is being strict about this, I guess at least the first year.


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I am about to purchase the Bosch 800 dishwasher and the Bosch 800 36 inch gas cooktop.

Can anyone tell if I should consider the Benchmark series instead of either or both of these?

As far as I can tell on AJ Madison, etc, the only difference on the cooktop is 20,000 instead of 18,000 BTU on the central burner. Can anyone see other differences?

On the dishwasher, I haven't compared yet, but the 800 gets such good ratings that I can't imagine they could have improved on it a lot in the Benchmark.

What do y'all think?

Thanks!


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Looks like you're right on the cooktop difference.

As for the dishwashers It doesn't look Bosch has really "improved" anything, just played around with the model names. Even the model numbers stayed the same. What used to be the 800 Plus series is now the Benchmark series, which very could be the dishwasher you read reviews of. Benchmark is imported from Germany, whereas the current 800+ is made right here in the USA (before, the 800+ was made in Germany). Other than that, the Benchmark is 2 decibels quieter (38dB vs 40dB) and uses slightly less electricity (same amount of water though).

Now that I've gotten the chance to take a closer look at the Benchmark line, I'm quite disappointed in it. Seems like they're asking a heavy premium for them, and the added features are pretty lame compared to the 800 line. The one exception to that in my opinion is the Benchmark wall ovens. There you get side opening doors and a significantly improved interface with a color screen.

I DO on the other hand quite like the overall design improvements of Bosch's new line. But you don't need to go up to the Benchmark series to get that.

This post was edited by hvtech42 on Wed, May 28, 14 at 17:16


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We just ordered a Bosch 800 series induction cooktop. While it was discounted from MRSP, the price of the Benchmark series was "locked" according to our appliance store and could only be sold for list. That matched with what we saw online...essentially everyone was selling the Benchmark at list price. Maybe that will change once the unit is in greater distribution.

PS I was interested in the Benchmark and its "flex induction" capability, but the differential was too great and we needed to order now.


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Thanks for the info. I don't think you will regret the 800-series induction cooktop!
We have not started assembling cabinets, and figure I'm still a month out for appliances, if not more. That means I can keep flip flopping. My local store is remodeling its bosch display (a prerequisite from Bosch, before they will ship the benchmark products). Sure am looking forward to side-by-side comparisons.


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What you have heard about pricing is absolutely true. My husband (who works for a wholesaler) mentioned that the other day. It is locked at MSRP. I guess the only discounts will be for package deals, perhaps.

On the BMark DW, the most significant difference above the 800 (per the BSH rep I talked with) is an interior light (there are a few other minor differences). I decided that I have been living just fine without the need for an interior light in my DW, and considering we use the normal wash cycle 99% of the time, the 800 (not even 800 Plus) was more than adequate for our needs.

I ordered a BMark dual fuel range - I liked the additional perks there, but wasn't sold on the additional value added for the DW or MW (the BMark MW has a different display), so I ordered the 800 series for those items.

This post was edited by hokie98 on Tue, Jun 3, 14 at 7:12


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I have the 30 inch slide in Benchmark induction range. I have had it for a couple of weeks. So far I really like it. There is lots of space on the rangetop for pans. I also like the oven. The warming drawer sticks so they are coming out to replace a roller but, assuming that works, I will be happy with the choice. This is my first induction range so I am still getting used to differences in cooking and I did replace some pans but so far I like it and it is so easy to keep clean and does not heat up the kitchen at all.


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Hokie98, either your rep was wrong or the Bosch website is, it says the 800 plus has an interior light also. The only differences I can see are country of origin, sound level, and energy efficiency.


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hvtech42 - After looking back at the DWs again, you are right, there is an interior light in the 800Plus - so I guess that is a separate DW. My conversation with the rep went like this: "What is the benefit of the Benchmark dishwasher over the others? I don't care about a bunch of cycles because we seldom deviate from the regular wash cycle. I just want clean dishes." His response was, "The main difference is that you'll get an interior light and a few other minor features." He didn't specify, and I didn't ask, for differences between the 800Plus & BMark. I was already leaning towards the 800 anyway and the rep told me I would probably be very happy with the 800. Looking at the website closer, the "SteelTouch" control panel is probably the most noticeable difference b/w the 800Plus & BM. Evidently control panel was the most noticable difference b/w the BM & 800 MWs. Having new, higher-tech control panels seems to be a common theme across the Benchmark line.


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Benchmark is shipping! (It came in last week, but we were out or town.) I have a dual fuel range sitting in my kitchen, to be installed tomorrow AM!


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Still no benchmark ovens in Utah appliance displays. But the decision is starting to slow our progress, so I think I have to order sight unseen.

So - will prob get benchmark wall oven (left-hinged side opening), the matching speed oven, but maybe not the flex cooktop.

Anybody yet with an installed benchmark wall oven?


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I can't help you with the wall oven/cooktop, but I have been using my range for a few weeks, as well as the 800 series MW. I love my new range. I love the oven. It bakes so much better/evenly than my dumpy old gas range. The luxury glide rack is so smooth. The lights slowly illuminate, then slowly go off, which is pretty slick. I 'proofed' some dough in it over the weekend - I love having that feature back (which I missed from the Thermador wall oven we had in our last house). I haven't used the probe yet, but if it's like our old Thermador, I'm sure it won't disappoint. I love the 5 burners on the top, and they are super responsive.

I would say the only thing I do NOT like is the touch screen panel. I bought the 800 series MW b/c I didn't think the upgrade for the Benchmark features were worth the extra $$. The MW (which I'm thrilled with as well) has buttons behind the display that you actually push. The Benchmark is more like an iPhone, where it's touchscreen. But it's super sensitive. I can be cooking on the top of the range and my shirt will brush against the control panel, and the next thing I know, it's beeping at me asking if I want to turn the oven on. Therefore, I keep the panel locked now unless I'm turning the oven on (which is probably safest anyway since I have young children). I have had one or two occasions where it's taken me a few seconds of touching the control panel to get the oven to turn off. The other night, I didn't have it locked, and I noticed there as a little icon illuminated on the panel. I couldn't figure out what may be on, and even looked at the manual, which was no help. I finally figured out it was the warming drawer. The warming drawer somehow was accidentally turned on. So candidly, I'm not so sure I'm sold that the touchscreen is a big 'perk,' especially on a range where it's lower, right in front. Personally, I would rather have a display where you had to actually push a button than just touch it.

Best of luck with you decision!


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Thanks Hokie98. Sounds like a lovely range, but I agree that accidentally turning things on is not a good thing. I've been without an oven since January, and am really looking forward to baking bread again. I've never had the proof setting, and so definitely looking forward to it.


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I was all set to buy the new Bosch Benchmark Induction slide-in until I finally was able to see one in person today in Seattle. I have to say, the control panel and the surrounding brushed stainless is ugly to the point of looking like a prototype. The metal and finish does not match the doors and drawers of the oven or any other Bosch appliances near by. The finish around the black glass control pane is rough with a punched through look instead of a nice recessed bevel. The brush marks in the stainless are deep and look like someone did them by hand. The glass control panel is too small leaving large blank surfaces of this ugly stainless on either side of the control panel. I wanted so much to like this range based on pictures but that control panel area makes the whole unit look second class. I took some pictures with my phone but they are a bit blurry. If you want I can post them.

If someone owns one I hope they can tell me that something must be wrong with the unit I saw in the store. Otherwise, I am back to GE or waiting for Miele.

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That would be great if you could post pictures.

"waiting for Miele"

Wow, Miele is coming out with an induction range? I had heard that they would have a pro range line soon to compete with Wolf, Viking, etc. but I had no idea that they were doing induction too. I'm happy to hear that, we could use more induction ranges and it's a plus that it's coming from a manufacturer that's known for quality.


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Mine is a dual-fuel, but I don't find the SS to be offensive (I have included a picture, but this time of night, lighting isn't great!). I also bought a 800 series DW, and I would say it's the same SS. It is a course brushing, but again, I don't think it's bad, IMO. Now my MW/hood (don't roast me - I know they aren't popular on this board, but after a lot of thought, that's what I went with due to space) has a shinier SS finish, but I don't think it's distracting when compared to the range underneath it. I have a SS GE fridge and the brushing on that is a little finer than the Bosch, but not by much. I considered the induction range, but ultimately stuck with a gas top simply for asthetics. Without the knobs, I do think it looks a little odd/empty. I will attempt a better pic of the finish in natural light tomorrow if anyone would like.


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"I have included a picture"

Looks sharp to me.

"don't roast me - I know they aren't popular on this board"

Don't listen to those people. Microwave hoods are an economical choice that will do fine for the vast majority of cooking surfaces and cooking styles in residential kitchens. I'm not going to try and argue they're better than hoods but they are nowhere near as bad as many people on this forum make them out to be.


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