Regarding installation, there are screw holes on the sides. I guess these go into the cabinets on the sides. Will the dishwasher stay flush with my cabinets or does it have to come out a little bit. I want it to stay flush but I don't know if they will do that or not. Anything special they need to know about Miele installation. I wish I had just used the Miele dealer for the installation but my builder was willing to do it for free!

Whether or not it's flush with your cabinets will depend on their size? How deep is your opening?

Special req: they supply hose has a box on the end of it that needs to be oriented one of two ways. Pref.is to have the hump of the box pointing upward, and alternately the box needs to orient straight up and down. This is shown in the install manual.

However, my builder said the screw goes on the side trim piece. I will post back again tomorrow to let people know what the plumber did. I don't think they have ever installed a Miele before. I will post pictures!

If they have already installed it, then I won't know if they put the hose properly in the back. Is there a way for me to know if they did it properly? What is the symptom if they did not do that properly?

If you need any help or anything, just let me know.

I guess it should be flush like this:

With the door open, where do I screw into the side? It is hollow. Should the builder put wood support there for me to screw in the sides.

This is the other side. It is hollow again.

I pulled the dishwasher out so that it is not flush anymore.

Now, I can screw in the sides of the dishwasher on to the trim

This is the other side

However, I don't want to install it sticking out. So, do I ask the builder to put wood reinforcements on both sides of the cabinet so that I can screw in the dishwasher after pushing it in deeper.

Also, I did not take a picture of this, but there is a hole at the top of the sink cabinet and the plumber and pulled the two hoses from the dish washer up over to the sink cabinet. Should he put holes at the bottom and then send the hoses that way?

Very frustrating!

yes, and ideally they will be the same species and stain color as the rest of the doors/faceframes.

Hole in top of sink cab is fine for drain hose, and is OK for supply as log as it will reach the shutoff it is to attach to.

I had to go to work after I explained all this to the plumber in addition to the details about the supply and drain hoses.

My wife went by later and took pictures of the installation. I just took a look at the pictures as I had to work late and I am pissed!!! Check out the following pictures

You can clearly see that they forgot to raise the level of the dishwasher. There is a big gap between the top of the dishwasher and the granite! Every installer knows that this has to be adjusted. To make matters worse, one of the plumbers installed the toe kick (the black one that has the long adjustable depth rods) with the dishwasher being so low to the ground and another plumber opens the door and breaks off both of the rods. They throw it away and say to my wife the toe kick is not needed. What a bunch of crock. They also screwed in the side screws obviously at the wrong level. I have to ask them to come back and raise the level of the dishwasher and rescrew in. I am really annoyed as my builder assured me these plumbers knew what they were doing. I should have just gone with the Miele authorized dealer that I bought the dw from. They do the installation for $150. I thought I was saving that by letting the builder do it! In addition to this, one of the plumbers was a wise crack and was behaving in a less than polite manner with my wife. The builder is going to get an earful from me tomorrow. I hope that the process of opening the DW door and breaking off the toe kick rods did not damage the door itself. Otherwise I have to get the builder to pay for the damage. I bought this myself and asked him to install it. So, I don't know if I can make him liable.

Anyway, its really not a big deal to fix this install...the hard part is the wiring and plumbing if its not already done.
You should unscrew the four screws holding it in on the side, slide the unit out, get a level, raise it to the height you want it and make sure its level (there are two screws that raise the back two legs and the two legs on the front you turn with a screw driver around and around...
When level and at the right height, push it in...you can fine tune the height now...when the height is sorted you need to push it in so that the front is level. When this is done and you are sure everything is ok, screw in the 4 screws again to the wood and you are done...easy peasy...you just need to fix the toe kick now...builder can do that...

I talked with my builder this morning about why the DW was not raised up. He said the plumber told him that if he raises anymore, the granite overhang would interfere with the DW handle and we could hurt our finger while closing the DW. Yikes! Did they put too much overhang? How do other people do it?

Also, to raise the level, do they have to pull out the dishwasher and raise the back level and then raise the front level and then push it in? I thought there was a way to raise the whole dishwasher just from the front.

Did your unit come with a manual? You can d/l them from the miele site if you get stuck.

Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.

To be fair , I'm not sure what info they we given, so if the Miele DW and it's matchy matchy flush type install weren't spec'd from the get go then the designer / installer get a pass.

I understand what the plumber is saying, Your granite overhangs a lot at the dishwasher point because it(dishwasher) is flush with the faceframes and not the door and drawer fronts which sit proud of those by 3/4 - 7/8". What has failed to be specified or installed is the endpanel on the left flush with the door faces and the 45 deg. filler to the right in the same plane as the doors.

This is fairly typical with framed cabinetry especially with partial overlay doors.

I think your solution will be to add a finished piece of material under the counter above the DW.

The Miele plastic toe is not needed but may be desirable. You will need/want a piece of stained toe to go in front of the DW at the least if you don't use the supplied black one.

Wait till you see the price on the two brackets and the black plastic! You might also have to uninstall the unit and remove the pan to free the broken piece of bracket if it's still inside the unit.

There are no cabinet doors on either side of the dishwasher. That is why I had the desire to install the dishwasher flush with the panel. But since I did not realize the granite overhang is going to interfere with the handle, now I have a problem to solve. Unfortunately, we did not give Miele's specs to the cabinet makers since they said all dishwashers are the same, you can choose later. Ours is not a super high end house. We probably went high end on a middle of the road builder. The dishwasher being that low looks ugly since the door is so low. Again, I guess I have to pull the dishwasher out to raise the level right not just the front.

I don't think it will look right on the right side if I ask the cabinet guy to put a trim piece on top of the piece that is already there to the left of the dw.

Any other ideas?

I guess I cannot use the black toe kick that came with the dw. The cabinet guy said he will leave me a strip, but with the dw this low, I will have to either cut the height or raise the dishwasher

Ask / have the cabinet maker fabricate another end panel out of 3/4" material to match the drawers/doors. It'll be "l" shaped. Apply this over the existing panel to left of DW. Have him make a full overlay corner filler for the right of the DW - left of sink at the correct angle. Apply it and now all of your DW elevation will be in the same plane as your sink elevation.

You can then pull the DW forward and raise it up to be installed properly.

N.B. - you need to measure the height of your doors or door + drawer to see if they are the same height as the Miele panel. Looks close, but if it's not exact you'll still have trouble getting all the horizontal lines to mate up and toekick trouble.

I'd offer to pay for the material, let him supply the labor to make up for the fact that not "all dishwashers are the same" like he thought! He can book that cost under cont. education, on his balance sheet.