My cabinets are standard 24 inches deep. When closed, only the Viking range door sticks out beyond the cabinets. And of course, the bullnose piece on the top sticks out somewhat past the granite. Personally, I like the look and prefer that the range stick out a bit and not fit flush with the cabinets. I did see the two Thermador's while shopping and thought that the Pro Grand stuck out a little more than I'd like and it looked quite bulky compared to the Pro Harmony. I think the doors were quite a bit thicker than the Viking door, which really contributes to that beefy look. Look at pictures of the Capital Culinarian installed and it sticks out quite far, too. If I had to choose to between the two though, I'd pick the Pro Grand over the flush fit.