calling all gaggenau combi steam and/or std oven owners

11 years ago

Hi Everyone..

I am putting together the final parts and pieces to my kitchen.. layout and appliances and wonder.. do the folks who have a gaggenau wall appliance leave them solo on the wall if they don't have a matching piece to stack?

Would you put a gaggenau steam oven on top of xxxx wall oven?

If anyone has, can you post a pic.. My options are to either go with the 24 gagg oven and put it in a 27 or 24 cabinet with my existing 24 gagg steamer or put in a 3rd party mfg under the steamer or oven under the counter..

I hope I am posting this in the right place.. appliances or kitchen.. maybe both?

Thank you

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MidcenturyHillbilly

10 years ago

Old thread, but in case anyone else is wondering, I recently mounted my 27" combi (steam) over a 27" double with no issues whatsoever. I custom built the cabinets myself out of 3/4" baltic birch (13 ply) with African wenge veneers. The cabinet was re-enforced with 2X3 bracing. It's a beefy cabinet. The depth is a standard 25" (width is 31" overall). Believe it or not, this leaves plenty of room for the drain line and water supply line of the combi oven to drop down behind the double oven. There's at least 3" of air space from the back of the double oven from the water line and drain lines. To be extra safe, I wrapped each of those lines in foil insulation. I also left the cabinet open in structure so that both ovens vent properly. Fresh air can enter through a slot vent I left in the toe kick, and exits at the top near the soffit.

It took some head scratching to determine a comfortable mounting height for each unit, though. I didn't want it too high/low or feel like they were squashed together. The top of the double oven is at 49" from the finished floor. I'm 6' tall, so that puts the working area of the top portion of the oven at about my abdominal area. That's a MUCH better working height than a standard free-standing range. Since the lower oven gets used less frequently (Thanksgiving only, I'm betting), I won't mind bending down to use it. The top of the combi is mounted at 68.5" (again, from the finished floor) which puts its working area at about my lower sternum. That height is almost exactly what a standard "above the range" microwave would be mounted at, so is a good working height. My wife is 5'7", and thinks the working heights are ideal. I'll try to upload a picture for you...two secs.

Comments (12)

redoingit
11 years ago
I put mine alone, as there was not another oven I wanted at the time I could stack. I also have a range (for my larger size needs). It works for us. I have the combi next to the fridge, all the cookie sheets above the combi, a drawer below it with the combi cheat wheel and oven mits, and general pan storage below that.

I probably would not put a steam oven under the counter...but did put my micro there and love it!
attofarad
11 years ago
five4me, if you have standard 24" deep cabinets, mounted against the wall, I'm not sure that you can mount the combi right over a Gaggenau oven. The combi installation instructions in that case say that the cabinets need to be pulled 2" forward (shimmed out from the wall) so that there is room for the hoses to go behind the oven below. That might entail a deeper panel on the end of the run of cabinets or some such. In my case, I just had the cabinets built 27" deep.

If you had something in between the combi and oven, such as a drawer, you might be able to manage with 24" deep cabinets against the wall.
gwlolo
11 years ago
I don't have pictures but I have a 24in combi planned above a 27in gagg conection. I used the 3 inch space to do a spice rack facing the counter. I do have deeper 30in cabinets on this run.
decolisa
11 years ago
I have my 27 in. Gagg combi above my 27 in. oven in a standard depth cabinet on an end-run of cabinets.

I would avoid doing the combi below the counter because a side-opening door is less convenient that low. I think that because of the drain, you can't install the Gagg combi below 36 inches.

Like redoingit, I put my microwave (really a Miele speed oven) below the counter.
five4me
Original Author
11 years ago
Thank you..
Redoingit, I had the same exact set up in my previous house but I was getting greedy with counter space so I opted for a 24 inch wide cabinet instead of 27.
Attofarad, we are setting up the kitchen so the cabinets are flush mounted with 26 in side panel so that we can pull out the tall cabinet out 2 inches to allow for plumbing.
I would very much like to have either 27 or 30 inches deep cabinets on that run but unfortunately it's a small galley kitchen and I don't have enough room but I like the idea that you have GWlolo to use the extra space for something useful.
So noone has or knows of anyone who put a wolf oven or bosch etc under their combi, huh.. guess I will go with the 24 gagg oven to match the steamer.. just concerned about the small oven size..
eleena
11 years ago
What small oven size? :-)

If you mean a 24" Gaggenau convection oven (not combi-steam), you might be surprised how much it can hold.

I don't remember the exact number but a good size Thanksgiving turkey is not a problem.

I have looked into this issue for a long time. I asked on this board a few months ago and *everyone* told me that Gaggenau 24" ovens were amazingly "spacious". Unless you have a very large family, bake a lot of cookies, or entertain very often, it should be plenty. Bigger is not always better and can be very wasteful (in terms of electricity).

GL!
five4me
Original Author
11 years ago
Eleena.. THANK YOU.... Yes, I am talking about the oven not the combi. I have not been able to see the 24 inch oven live and in person so I have been very concerned about what I could and could not fit in there. We do not have a large family and never cook turkey. I do bake but not dozens of cookies a week. The oven definitely would have to fit a 16 inch round pizza pan which it should by what the measurements say. We do entertain but I hope that for overflow cooking the combi would work.
Do you worry about resale and people saying that a 24in oven is too small..
five4me
Original Author
11 years ago
Eleena.. THANK YOU.... Yes, I am talking about the oven not the combi. I have not been able to see the 24 inch oven live and in person so I have been very concerned about what I could and could not fit in there. We do not have a large family and never cook turkey. I do bake but not dozens of cookies a week. The oven definitely would have to fit a 16 inch round pizza pan which it should by what the measurements say. We do entertain but I hope that for overflow cooking the combi would work.
Do you worry about resale and people saying that a 24in oven is too small..
MidcenturyHillbilly
10 years ago
My kitchen isn't complete yet, so forgive the clutter...
MidcenturyHillbilly
10 years ago
....close-up with my craptastic camera.
sleevendog (5a NY 6aNYC NL CA)
10 years ago
That looks great. I'm deciding on height right now...and have for weeks waiting for the time to install.
Thanks for the pics.