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| After a great deal of research, I recently (1/2013) purchased a Whirlpool Gold double oven. When I turned it on for the first time, I could not believe how loud the exhaust fans were! It is a convection oven, but this was in bake mode. The vent ran for 45 minutes after I turned the oven off!! I called Whirlpool customer service and they said they had heard their new models were louder than previous models and "they are working on it." Well, I cannot keep these ovens in my kitchen. They are simply TOO loud. So I am now looking for a replacement. I am leaning toward the Bosch 800 series but really want to hear from someone who actually has one to see if they have the same noise issue. Any input and/or suggestions? I would greatly appreciate it! |
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- Posted by live_wire_oak (My Page) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 13:55
| How quiet something is will be subjective. There is no objective standard measure that will tell you how two different ones will compare. Some will find the oven that you have just fine, and others will not. It's a crapshoot, and only you will know your own sensitivity level. It's you are very sensitive, you may not find any the will work for you. All ovens will have fans that cool their electronics, and there are very few showrooms with ovens actually hooked up for you to hear. If you found the Whirlpool noisy, then I sugget you avoid all of it's sisters, the Maytag, JennAir, KitchenAid and perhaps investigate some of the higher end products. |
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- Posted by weedmeister (My Page) on Fri, Jan 25, 13 at 14:18
| BTW: my mom has a single Maytag. The fan is for the electronics. You could try looking for a unit that doesn't have that much in the way of electronics. |
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| We have an Electrolux wall oven. The fan starts to hum once you turn it on. It's not particularly loud to my ears. When the oven it turned off, the fan continues to blow until it's cooled off. As the oven is well insulated, this takes tens of minutes. I shorten this by opening the oven door. This vents the hot air within minutes. Cheryl |
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| Thanks for the input. I realize all ovens have fans these days to keep electronic controls cool. The one I replaced did as well, but the Whirlpool was truly obnoxiously loud. Even my husband agreed, and he is not noise-sensitive at all! Again, their own rep's confirmed the issue. I guess I just want to hear from someone with a Bosch before I purchase one...does the noise bother you? Do you notice it particularly? Or does it fade into the background? Thanks again for the input!! |
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- Posted by sara_the_brit_z6_ct (My Page) on Sat, Jan 26, 13 at 13:22
| I have a Bosch 500 series single wall oven (mounted under the cooktop). I haven't found the noise to be an issue at all - very quiet in fact. I'm probably aware of the cooling fan, when I've stopped cooking, simply because I think "did I turn off the oven?", but that's the only reason I notice it. Our kitchen has no door and opens off the sitting and dining areas, yet we don't hear the oven in those rooms. Hope this helps |
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| Thanks Sara...that's exactly what I needed to hear (ha!). I am leaning toward the Bosch and this definitely makes my decision easier. |
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- Posted by Texasgal47 (My Page) on Sun, Jan 27, 13 at 5:21
| I also have the Bosch 500 series wall oven and am sensitive to noise. On regular mode or convection, this oven is extremely quiet with the fan on. The fan runs for about 10 to 15 minutes after the oven is turned off. |
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| The quietest ones will be the ovens with triple glass doors. Wolf L Series and Gaggenau. Yep, the most expensive ones. |
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| Deeageaux...Lol! Of course! Texasgal...thanks. What a relief. I think the Bosch 500 is the one for me. Thanks again, everyone! |
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| " Posted by deeageaux The quietest ones will be the ovens with triple glass doors. Wolf L Series and Gaggenau. " There is more to it than that. I have my Wolf range, with triple glass next to my Electrolux, double glass and the Electrolux is quieter. It is probably due to the fact it has dual fans, but for some who are noise sensitive, even the pitch of the fans can make a difference. My Electrolux and Wolf both shut off when you turn them off. The only way you can know what is best for you is to hear it but this would be almost impossible to do. If you buy from the right retailer, some have a two week window for return, but make sure you understand the terms for that. |
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- Posted by bethinevanston (My Page) on Sat, Feb 2, 13 at 21:36
| The Thermador ovens my in-laws have at home are crazy obnoxious loud. The Wolf ones they have at their vacation home are nice and quiet, even though when you open them they are super loud. I agree the noise is awful. Would it help to insulate the oven cabinet with foam or something? |
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- Posted by clarygrace (My Page) on Sun, Feb 3, 13 at 8:22
| Deeageaux is right on the money, my gaggenau ovens are super quiet; the doors are amazing on another point: you can open the door while baking and the inside of the door is cool, not hot -- truly amazing engineering. In cleaning mode, the oven fans are quietier than most. |
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- Posted by GromitInWA (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 16:05
| Sara and Texasgal - are you happy with the reliability of your Bosch ovens? Note that Gaggenau is also manufactured by Bosch. I'm told that the current Boschs are "lower end" Gaggenaus. |
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- Posted by sara_the_brit_z6_ct (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 16:51
| Very happy - It's been in place almost 5 years (where does the time go?) now with no problems. I make 3 loaves of bread at least once a week, if not twice, and roast on Sunday (I'm so English :) ), plus lots of other usage. Mostly, I use True Convection, broil, and warm. I'm still unconvinced about the merits of some of the different settings, having been used to "all convection, all the time" in the UK for years, but that's just me. I've only used the self-clean twice, I think, and only for an hour, which was adequate. Roast duck makes quite a mess . . . |
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- Posted by clarygrace (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 18:08
| GromitinWA - note that Gaggenau while owned by Bosch Siemens is completely independent from them, including and most importantly Gaggenau engineering, manufacture etc. There is categorically no comparison between a Gaggenau and a Bosch or Thermador (also owned by Bosch)-- not by a long shot. |
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- Posted by GromitInWA (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 18:56
| Thanks Sara - good to hear that you've had long term experience with them. As a fellow Brit, I can relate to the importance of the Sunday Roast. Bring on the Yorkshire Pud and roast potatoes! |
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- Posted by GromitInWA (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 18:59
| @clarygrace - I would be astonished if there were not some common mechanical and electrical parts. Volkswagen, Audi, Seat, Skoda and Lamborghini are all part of VAG and you'll find some common parts between the vehicles that they make. It is simply uneconomic to do otherwise. |
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- Posted by clarygrace (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 19:06
| If anything, Bosch may use some Gaggenau engineered parts -- still, the products are completely different -- in terms of performance, quality there is truly no comparison. I know because I have used both. It's like trying to compare a Rolls Royce to a Mercedes, trust me. |
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| Whilst we are happy that clarygrace is happy with the Gaggenau oven, one would appreciate a little more "Factual Knowledge" about the Gaggenau's engineering, manufacture etc. While I do admit it does take some time and research to come up with "Truly Factual Information", I feel we owe it to our readers here,, rather than "Shooting from the hip" You have "No Need" to be "Astonished", GromitInWA. Here are just a few examples of common parts between the Bosch and the Gaggenau ovens, Clock & Oven Control Board Bosch Range/Stove/Oven Oven Thermostat Bosch Range/Stove/Oven Convection Element http://www.repairclinic.com/Bosch-Range-Stove-Oven-Heating-Element-Par ts?n=3 Hmmmmm, let's see what we have here (Above) (1) Clock & Oven control board. Hmmm what's left!!!!, I guess the paint and the So the same exact parts that I listed fit both the Gaggenau and Bosch ovens, some fit the Thermadors too. go here to find the info I did. http://www.repairclinic.com/Bosch-Range-Stove-Oven-Heating-Element-Par ts?n=3 Also according the the "Bosch Guru" on the Fixya site, bosch guru457 solutionsFeb 26, 2010 You can go to thermador .com Bosch,thermador gaggenau all same company Just the facts, Mam, Just the Facts Gary |
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- Posted by clarygrace (My Page) on Mon, Feb 4, 13 at 20:26
| Well Dodge it must really make you feel good to tout your knowledge and research. Good for you. But you may want to scale back on self-righteous patronizing, it's not very flattering. For me, I speak from my experience with two of the products being compared and again I can tell you that there is NO comparison between a Bosch oven and a Gaggenau oven -- they are engineered differently -- They perform differently. I did mention that they may share some components/parts but that's about the extent of it. ROLLS ROYCE VS. MERCEDES is a pretty good analogy, sorry if you disagree. Jeez, for as long as I've read your posts on ovens, you have a penchant for pooh poohing anything that isn't an Electrolux oven(and btw, I also own Electrolux appliances), and they are fine products, but everyone has their preferences. |
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| It's true, I'm a big Electrolux fan, alto not as quiet a fan that is on my oven, as Wekick mentioned, the oven is VERY quiet, even quieter than the wolf. But in this case, The OP seems to be concentrating on the Bosch ovens, so that is what my post is about, Bosch Ovens. I don't pooh poo anything that's not Electrolux, I have a Miele DW and would not trade if for an Elux DW. Same for My Jenn-air fridge, no way a trade for an Elux Fridge. You went , "To Me", way out of your way to "Try to explain the Superiority" of the Gaggenau over the Bosch, sorry I'm not buying it, I can "Honestly say" I would not trade ovens with you even if you offered me an additional 10 grand. I don't think we do our readers here a service to have them possibly "over budget", in this case, for an oven, that except for the side opening doors, is not that much different than a "Normally priced oven" and I certainly do not believe it performs any better than a "Better Bosch", and unless I see it myself, I would not believe it can out perform my Electrolux. While a lotta folks here do not like car anologies, but since you used one, I will too, having had two German Cars, Mercedes Benzes. Heater control unit goes out on one of them. Repair guy says, So you want the "Mercedes Heater Control", it's $900, or do you want the Chrysler one, it's $300, and is the same thing. While You might tell them to put in the Mercedes part, I chose the Chrysler, and it worked just fine!! So I at least want folks to be aware of "How the Game is Played", they want to play it, fine, it's their money!!! Gary |
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- Posted by Texasgal47 (My Page) on Tue, Feb 5, 13 at 1:48
| I'm staying out of this one! To return to GromitInWA's question regarding Bosch oven reliability, I have had mine installed just 14 months with no problems with reliability. Mine is used primarily for baking. I have not used the self-clean feature as don't want to push my luck. I'm wondering how many Bosch owners do self-clean their ovens. |
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| I just posted this morning about my very noisy, newest model KitchenAid KEBS277SS so am also interested in the answers to this post. Taking price and on-line comments into consideration, I am leaning toward replacing the KitchenAid with the Bosch 500 series (I have to have a 27" size). Depending on when you (meaning other posters) bought your appliance and which model # you purchased, results can vary widely. All I can say is that my newest KitchenAid double ovens are noisy, with cooling fan turbulence so loud it makes a whistling noise like a teakettle. I have had authorized repair people out and the noise is the same in or out of the cabinet. Whirlpool/KitchenAid claims the sound is normal & 'subjective' as one other person mentioned. I am grateful to know that I am not alone. |
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- Posted by treetopviewer (My Page) on Sun, May 5, 13 at 20:32
| All my appliances have been Maytag so I just called Lowes and ordered a new double wall oven in my price range. It was Maytag so I knew it would be great. WRONG!!! As soon as it was installed we turned it on and the fans in the oven came on and oh my gosh! This is a very large kitchen 1k sq. ft. and we could not hear the TV at the other end of the room. Unbelievable! So I called Maytag. The service man and I got into a screaming fight on the phone until he said "Lady if you turn off the fan the oven will MELT!." That's right, that is what he said. THE OVEN WOULD MELT. I hung up and went to look at the oven. I had taken down a wall to take out the old oven and install the new one so one wall beside the oven was not there. The metal walls of this oven were from 1/4" to 1/2" thick. No wonder. It all made sense then. The oven will melt if you turn off that obscenely loud oven FAN. The walls were very thin with little or no insulation. I returned the oven to Lowes the next day and bought a Bosch 300 Series oven that was quiet and only a couple hundred more. Bosch is a VERY QUIET and wonderfully performing oven. Very good buy! |
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| Same experience here. I think that's the reason Bosch is the oven Abt uses IN the showroom to bake cookies...if they used the other brands people would be scared off by the noise (Whirlpool et al) or by the price (Gaggennau). The other thing we like about our Bosch 300 is it has knobs :) |
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| Just to jump on the Bosch bandwagon:) We love our 500 series oven (thought about the 800 but given the price point and the fact that I like knobs vs electronic control panel), went with it. Very quiet. I am sensitive to noise, and in an open concept kitchen/family room where we were unable to hear the television with our last oven, this has been a perfect fit. My only complaint is that the oven does take a long time to reach temps; once there, it bakes evenly. |
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- Posted by Alexand875 (My Page) on Tue, Jun 18, 13 at 15:18
| I am wondering whether any of you have a Decibel meter? This would be an objective measure of oven noise. (Can you tell my husband is a builder?) If you don't have a dB meter, you can download a free app on your iPhone. Decibel 10th is one app, but there are many. We are about to replace our GE Monogram. It has been unbearably loud the entire time we have had it. If anybody is able to measure Decibels of your oven and post here, it would be most appreciated! |
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| Well another way to measure the noise and demonstrate it to the folks here in Garden Web, is to use your video camera to record the oven noise, and in fact I've done so with my Electrolux Induction. My wife and I can not hear anything when it is running, but another poster, listened to my video and heard the high pitch sound She does not like. So She was not relying on "This 70 year old's Acute Hearing", LOL, She listened for herself. I could do that for my Elux oven but since it is 7 years old, It "May NOT" reflect accurately the fan noise of the current Electrolux ovens. Gary |
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