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| I'd like to give my son and his fiance an engagement gift of vintage silverplate flatware. I was fortunate to find a complete 5-pc service for 12, with their monogram, but the only serving pieces included were 2 master butter knives, and 2 sugar spoons. I had a few pieces of the same pattern already (Community/Grosvenor), then found another partial set that had most of the serving pieces (probably more than they'll ever use), but a couple of the larger pieces are quite pitted. They are useable, and once they're stuck in the mashed potatoes no one would notice the pitting, but should I include those pieces in the gift, or hold them back and ask my future DIL if she'd like them, later?
Or, should I give just the monogrammed set, boxed, as a gift, then quietly give them the partial sets and serving pieces later? I don't have a lot invested, less than $1.00/piece, but so far I've collected 153 pieces. The kids are fairly casual about entertaining, so I'm going to give them my blessing to use the silverplate for everyday flatware. Son and fiance were friends in HS, kept in contact, then started dating a couple of years ago, so fiance is very comfortable in our home, with all my vintage/antique/just plain old, stuff. I use mismatched pieces everyday, but I'm not quite sure about the gift-giving etiquette. I know some of you use silverplate or sterling every day, so I'd like your opinions. Thank you! |
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| I would give the good set that is lacking serving pieces....and perhaps a few of the serving pieces from the other set that are in good shape. Then later, ask about the not so good pieces and offer them to them. I use my sterling daily and it goes into the dishwasher. But plated ware doesn't do so well in the dishwasher if there is any tiny bit of basemetal showing, that will turn dark. |
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- Posted by sheilajoyce (My Page) on Fri, Apr 20, 12 at 20:42
| My mother used her Community silver plate every day and her sterling silver only for special occasions. I would do the same if I had silver plate, which I don't. I use the Onida stainless I have for every day and the Gorham sterling for special occasions. |
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- Posted by mama_goose (My Page) on Sat, Apr 21, 12 at 17:05
| Lindac, thank you, I think I will follow your suggestion. When I pulled out the pieces to photograph, I realized that they won't all fit in the same box anyway. Aside from the two pieces in the pics above, all of the serving pieces are in good condition--I just need to decide which ones to include in the box. Oh, and I also noticed that a few of the knife handles (from the major SP haul in December last year) are different--slightly smaller, possibly solid handles, rather than hollow. I'll pass along the info on hand washing vs. dishwasher. If you look closely at the carving fork, you can see that the edges of the tines and post are worn, showing the dark base that you mentioned. For many years I used an old set of Rogers (Inspiration), even putting it in the DW. Now I wish I'd known better--I'm trying to add to that set for one of my daughters. Even though it has that 'scoured' appearance, it's in decent shape, and it will have sentimental value to her. sheilajoyce, I don't have sterling, but I enjoy using my odds-and-ends silverplate pieces every day. I have some orphaned, ornate serving pieces that I use for special occasions, and I'm trying to collect a nice service for 24, for family dinners. I'm also collecting a set for my other daughter. I've been bitten by the silver bug! |
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| And the next thing is a nibble by the sterling bug.... Thank heavens I got most of it out of my system when sterling was still affordable!! I got into major trouble by saying when I was going to auctions a lot....that I would buy any sterling piece for $1.00. |
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| I think you should check to see if they'd actually use it. Most young people like modern stuff, as far I can tell. |
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| During a craftin binge, bought a few BIG lots of "craft" silverplate on Ebay. One lot was mainly one pattern... Patrician... and in seriously nice shape. Normal signs of wear for a pattern from the 30's, none of plating completely worn off. I polished it up and it looks fabulous! Another lot yielded more of the same pattern... some with initials. I SWEAR food tatstes better off silver... even if plated?!? Ended up with at LEAST 12 place settings... salad fork, dinner fork, knife, soup spoon and teaspoon. And a bunch of other pieces... little mini "ladles"??... butter servers, etc. I used it for a while and it went into dishwasher... with no noticable problems. Problem was, over time, it sorta yellowed... needed more elbow grease and silver polish. Has been sitting in a yard sale or thrift store find... wooden box lined with silver felt... and looks as good as day I last polished it. |
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- Posted by mama_goose (My Page) on Sun, Apr 22, 12 at 11:46
| Lindac, LOL, I understand exactly what you're saying. In addition to my '$1.00 or less' rule, I don't bring home anything unless I already have several place settings in the same pattern. My plan is to complete the collections, then sell the extras. We'll see... ideefixe, great advice! My son was raised with vintage /antiques, and so far seems to appreciate them--the first vehicle he bought on his own was a restored VW 'vanagon.' Future DIL is proud to have her Gma's sewing machine, and furniture that her Gfthr crafted. But for the price that I paid for the silverplate, they can use it and abuse it. Which reminds me of a story...When older DD was in college, she took some art courses. She actually won awards for some of her work, but imagine my surprise, when we went to the showing, to find one of my Rogers 'Inspiration' salad forks welded to a Calder-type mobile. Grrrr. Art or not, as soon as the piece came back, I took the wire cutter to it. The fork will never be the same--maybe I should re-think giving that kid her own set. :[ klseiverd, I remember you! You're right--I find myself reaching for the silverplate, instead of stainless. I'm not a 'frou-frou' decorator, but those silverplate flowers and curlicues make every meal taste better. You may remember my previous thread about finding a mass of silverplate via craigslist. I've had such a good time with it! While trying to complete several sets, I've given other pieces away: Traded some to another GW friend, gave my niece a small set, and gave my mother a set that happened to share her first name, 'Shirley.' She uses it to serve her card-playing pals. I used pieces engraved 'Mother' to decorate her Christmas package, and gave my sister some of the fancy, but worn, pieces to display with a tea set on her porch. Someday the younger generation will be telling stories and laughing about Grandma's silver obsession. Maybe they already are. :) |
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| Nix on using it as an engagement gift; Save it for a wedding gift. It'll make a very nice wedding gift. This way, if they break up and the wedding never takes place, you have a nice gift for the next one. |
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- Posted by mama_goose (My Page) on Tue, Apr 24, 12 at 7:51
| jemdandy, LOL! Son and fiancee (just realized I used the wrong gender upthread) share the same last initial--that's why the monogrammed set seemed so perfect. If it all falls apart, fiancee can keep it to remind her of how she missed out on having a wonderful MIL. ;) |
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| Mama goose...lovely name btw :). You should watch shop goodwill dot com for your silver. I've amassed a service for about sixty (we sometimes have to wash desert forks if we have a lot of appetizers) and I stick to the same price range. If your future dil ticks you off you could always send the service to someone else who wants it (me lol). :). For the pieces that don't pass muster you can have them replated (which is worthwhile to me for often used serving pieces) or you could try some of the less expensive replanting stuff you see online which actually does work ok...I use it for a snap on occasion |
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| Here's a service for 12 for not much money....if you are looking for more. http://www.ebay.com/itm/56-pieces-Oneida-Community-Plate-Grosvenor-Sil verplate-Flatware-Chest-/230780289503?_trksid=m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI% 26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D3%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D79827531205061989 86 As for replating worn pieces....it will cost about $40 to replate a gravy ladle....you can buy another used one for about $10. Unless it was my grandmother's ladle it's not worth it to me...I can buy a sterling one for $50. |
Here is a link that might be useful: $50 sterling ladle
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| Linda, you're such an enabler! :P |
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| I know I know....I can go broke saving money. I have right now 48 place settings ( knife, fork, spoon and salad fork) of sterling in 3 different patterns. Most of it due to "filling out" something I bought at a great bargain. No reason others can't enjoy the affliction too! |
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- Posted by mama_goose (My Page) on Thu, Apr 26, 12 at 11:03
| igloochic, LOL. I've wondered about the replating products that one can use at home--the reviews on several products were mixed. Thank you, I'll bookmark shopgoodwill, and start checking regularly. I checked Etsy just to see what was available, but of course their prices are set, and it's more difficult to find bargains there. Lindac, after posting the thread, I've found a few pieces to complete the 24 pl service. Thank you for the link--the box alone is really nice. I'm putting the set on my watch list, but I fear that if I buy any more Grosvenor pieces, I'll be teetering on the brink of hoarding. And as for sterling...I'm not even gonna go there! ;) Hi, fori! :) |
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| It's not hoarding when it's a gift. Plus it's really small and stacks with others. :P |
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- Posted by mama_goose (My Page) on Mon, May 28, 12 at 14:53
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| A lemon fork!!...Yep that knocks that average way out of kilter!! Glad they were delighted....and that you have all that awful old stuff finally out of your house...;-Q |
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- Posted by mama_goose (My Page) on Tue, May 29, 12 at 16:07
| Thanks, Lindac! My cupboards are becoming more bare. My BIL and his family were visiting from NH last week, and when SIL noticed that I was setting the table with my June II, and I showed her the Grosvenor before I presented it to son and future DIL, she commented that she'd never had silverplate. After dinner I gave her 8 place settings, plus extras, of Devonshire, from the original stash. She cried while she and I wrapped it for the flight home. OK, she always has dramatic reactions, but I've had so much fun giving this stuff away! |
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| Aren't you glad you didn't sell the extras??? Bet you have had way more than $50 worth of fun out of giving that stuff away.... Think of what a burger and a movie costs!! Linda C |
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| Aww that's sweet. Didja decide to have some extra fun and slip a butter knife into her carry on luggage? Hehehe! |
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| Fori.....you are baaaaaaad!!! |
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