water getting on soapstone and Pietra Cardozo

munchladylandDecember 13, 2012

Hi GWers,
I tried to search to find the answer to this very basic question but couldn't get it right, so I thought you all might know....Last week we finally saw some soapstone slabs in person (boy was it hard to find a place that had some in stock!) and they were completely natural and unoiled. The stoneyard had a squeegee filled with water that we could "paint" it with to give us an idea how the particular slabs would look once they were oiled. The water took several minutes to dry up. Does this happen every time some water gets on soapstone counters? Or does the oiling prevent it? Or does the unoiled soapstone need to be sealed? I know that I could get several samples of soapstone and roadtest this but if someone has a quick answer for this I'd prefer to avoid that.

We are also considering Pietra Cardoza and I have a sample in the kitchen on which I have noticed the same water phenomenon. Can anyone speak to this stone as well? Or have any general experience with Pietra Cardoza as a counter?

Thanks in advance. I don't want to consider either of these two options if simple water stains are going to take 20 minutes to dry and leave marks while they're drying. It would drive me nuts!!

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Angie_DIY

It is not clear to me what your question is exactly.

Water on soapstone appears visually similar to oil on soapstone, which is why they demonstrated this that way.

If you oil it, it will remain darker for a longish time, until the oil evaporates. This takes probably a couple of weeks at first. (Eventually, the oil polymerizes and so does not evaportate.)

If you get water on unoiled soapstone, the soapstone will remain darkish until the water evaporates (several minutes).

If you get water on oiled soapstone, the appearance does not change much, because the stone is already darkened by the oil. The water will evaporate at the normal rate.

Typically, you do not use a sealer on soapstone, because it is non-porous.

Hope I answered your question among all that.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2012 at 10:27AM
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leela4

I've had soapstone in our kitchen for over two years now. Since soapstone doesn't absorb anything (my understanding is that it is an inert substance), water does just sit on top of the surface without soaking in. Ours is unoiled, so when I wipe up the counters, it takes a a minute or two to dry. If I want it to be dry faster than that, I just use a towel. Not a problem at all.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2012 at 10:31AM
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athomeinvagw

A sealant can also be used, if you use a color enhancing sealant then the stone stays dark and water beads up. Soapstone does not stain so color enhancing sealants are just an easy way to keep the stone dark without oiling or waxing and are a possible way to avoid the water rings that a few people have experienced (not proven, just my theory).

    Bookmark   December 13, 2012 at 10:52AM
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srosen

Soapstone in my opinion is a wonderful stone non porous acid resistant. It is soft and may require maintenance overtime. It is pretty straightforward and you may be able to DIY. The most important thing is to fins a great fabricator who can educate the consumer. That way you will know exactly what you are buying-Its characteristics are important to know in making your choice.
Pietra is a different story-much harder to maintain. It is acid sensitive,will scratch and can be very porous.
I know many people who own them. Some do very well with them because there lifestyle doesnt keep them cooking at home. Other who have big families and live a more hectic at home type of lifestyle have had some issues with the stone. Nothing that couldnt be fixed by refinishing the surface.
The geologic name for pietra cordoso is calcareous phyllite.
I have heard it called everything from limestone to granite,even italian soapstone.

    Bookmark   December 13, 2012 at 5:32PM
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eandhl

If you would go nuts because you had a 20 min wait for water to disappear on unoiled or needing to be reoiled soapstone perhaps you better think about the scratches and dings that may happen. I love soapstone but it isn't a stone for everyone.

This post was edited by eandhl on Fri, Dec 14, 12 at 8:25

    Bookmark   December 13, 2012 at 6:16PM
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munchladyland

Thanks for all the replies. Angie, you did answer my question. Appreciate all the info!

    Bookmark   December 14, 2012 at 11:06AM
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breezygirl

I, too, considered Pietra (PdC) after seeking some intriguing slabs, but was put off when researching the stone. The scratching, staining, etching, and porousness even when sealed were not what was I looking for even though I was already considering less durable stones like soapstone and marble.

Have you done a thorough search here or used google to search the forum? You'll find many threads mentioning PdC, although few are very exhaustive. I'll link one below with some of the best info I've found.

Here is a link that might be useful: Good PdC thread

    Bookmark   December 14, 2012 at 12:43PM
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