Kitchen Cabinets: How to compare Starmark, Koch, Crystal??

Ski-meOctober 4, 2013

We are building our house and finally down to the kitchen and bathroom cabinets. We've had a design done with specific cabinets and sizes called out. That way, I think we are better at recieving "like for like" comparo bids.

These are fairly loaded up with options as the house is considered to be fairly high end.

Plywood boxes
Full Extension drawers
Soft close on everything
Stain with glaze
Tax and Installation
Knotty Alder

The bids we've recieved vary pretty dramatically, but I don't know where each of them fall on the quality built arena. The only one I can really see for fit and finish quality was the Crystal Encore/Keyline cabinets.

Here are the bids so far on Full Overlay (Kitchen only):
Starmark - $24,300
Koch - $34,500
Crystal Encore - $38,000

Crystal Keyline (Inset) - $42,000
Shilo (Inset) - $40,700

Quality wise, I don't really know how the Starmark/Koch/Crystal line up?!?

In our existing house we have fairly new (4 years old) Woodland cabinets with particle board boxes, glazing, softclose, etc. What I don't like are some of the pull-outs are cheap and falling apart, some of the staining is wearing off on high traffic doors/drawers, etc.

I don't want to get the same quality problems on the new house.

Any advice or guidence on this?

Because the Starmark is so much cheaper, we're going to go and look at them again today.....

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I can't speak to Koch or Crystal cabinets, however we purchased starmark cabinets for our kitchen reno. 18 mo ago. We absolutely love them. They are knotty alder. With 2 kids and 2 dogs they are holding up wonderfully thus far. Initially I was concerned with the wood being softer, but haven't noticed any issues and the kitchen definitely takes it's fair share of abuse.

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 11:17AM
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another photo. Our cabs have 3/4 inch plywood boxes and 1/2 inch plywood shelves, soft close on everything, full extension drawers, roll
outs, trash/recycle, fridge surround, we opted no glaze just went a shadr darker on stain, also added double wood pegs on doors. The knots are so striking in these cabinets...the photos don't do the cabs justice. No problem with delivery.
They were a week early and nothing had to be returned.

This post was edited by wonderrn on Sat, Oct 5, 13 at 12:59

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 11:19AM
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I have Fieldstone cabinets, which are made by the same company which makes Starmark; I've heard the two brands are equivalent, but carried by different places. Ours have plywood boxes, Blum soft close, full extension drawers, etc--we picked cherry with a toffee stain. Ours are only a year old, but we are very happy with the cabinetry both in appearance and construction and don't have any issues at all. We did have to have one cabinet replaced when the contractor ordered the wrong size, and Fieldstone had a replacement shipped within a week or so.
The link shows a pic from a previous post; my kitchen is second from the bottom. Sorry, not great quality, since it's from my cell.

Here is a link that might be useful: Fieldstone kitchen

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 12:19PM
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House I just sold had 9 yr old Starmark we put in. Loved them looked great still when we moved out. Had solid wood box cherry in a finish they called rattan.

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 1:01PM
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I've been very pleased with the quality of my Crystal inset cabinets. Due to sales and the dealer I chose for quotes, my Crystal quote was far below the Fieldstone quote and below the Wellborn quote.

    Bookmark   October 5, 2013 at 2:53PM
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Thanks guys for the input. After further review, both Koch and Starmark look to be fairly close to each other in quality/fit and finish.

We recieved some sample doors both from Starmark and Crystal.......and I must say the Crystal looks and feels so much nicer! My wife loves them and they are significantly heavier than the Starmark. Crystal gave us a Knotty Alder and also a Beach. The Beach is surprisingly heavier than the Alder by quite a bit. Must be a very dense type of wood.

We are trying to firm up the pricing for both and also see if we can get them a little tighter in numbers. The Crystal will definitely be higher.....but it's just if we think it's worth it or not.

I wish we could of found some of your pricing gooster! Hopefully our supplier can get a little more competitive.

    Bookmark   October 8, 2013 at 11:04AM
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