Have you ever seen a marble rangehood?

firstmmoSeptember 23, 2013

I am looking at the option to wrap my 48" range hood in slabs of marble. However, the slab would be 4feet x 11feet tall. That's a lot of weight to be resting on its edge. I have seen one range hood by a designer named Nicole Hollis where she did wrap the hood in marble but it was only 3-4ft tall, not 11 feet.

If anyone has ever seen anything like this, will you point me to a link or post a picture?

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/fb/a2/9c/fba29c56708812a7bf2ee40f93ce04a0.jpg

Here is a link that might be useful:

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Sophie Wheeler

You would need a LOT of steel tied into extra support in the foundation to be able to support 2000 pounds. You'd have to have at least a lip of some angle iron painted to match to be exposed.

A better alternative would be the new large format ceramic tile that mimics stone slabs and comes in 5x10 sizes. Or laminate that comes in those sizes. It would still be heavy enough, but it might not kill you if it cracked and came sliding down.

Also look at the scale of what you're thinking of here. You couldn't have any other upper cabinets in the room. It would completely dominate the whole space, and all of the other elements would need to be carefully chosen to be subservient.

    Bookmark   September 23, 2013 at 7:31AM
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firstmmo

Thanks Hollysprings. Yes, I am carefully considering this all. I don't have any uppers in the room right now, and the house is fairly modern, so the clean lines could work. But, as you mentioned, the sheer weight of the thing makes the engineering of it complicated. I wonder if I have never seen it done because it's just too risky?

Just another one of my crazy design ideas.....

    Bookmark   September 23, 2013 at 11:21AM
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fouramblues

How about Kerlite 3.5 mm porcelain tile, which comes in large (as in 39"x118") sheets?

Here is a link that might be useful: Marble look Kerlite

    Bookmark   September 23, 2013 at 12:18PM
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kksmama

Saw this while looking for textured glass and remembered the question! Hope it isn't too late to help.

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    Bookmark   October 12, 2013 at 6:57PM
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ineffablespace

What About Fiandre extra large format porcelain tiles?

Here is a link that might be useful: Fiandre

    Bookmark   October 12, 2013 at 7:25PM
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lazy_gardens

That would be the place for some really good faux painting, or laminate marble-look material as sheathing ... because even the ceramics are going to need serious engineering to support their weight.

You can get excellent copies of slab marble from Formica and Wilsonart -

    Bookmark   October 13, 2013 at 4:34PM
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firstmmo

Thanks kksmama....it's great that you saw this. Have still been investigating it and I think between my structural engineer, contractor and fabricator, they have it worked out, so I am seriously considering doing it.

If you ever see anything more like it, let me know!

    Bookmark   October 13, 2013 at 6:40PM
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bmorepanic

I admit to wanting you to do it so I could see the photos. It would be really amazing.

If you have some public buildings near by - like an old city hall, train station or court house - those kinds of buildings almost always have large sheets of marble, marble paneling. Just saying you might want to spend a little time looking around at one to see if you're good visually with big pieces of marble.

    Bookmark   October 13, 2013 at 7:26PM
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la_koala

Wow, it's a good thing (for my pocketbook) that I didn't know about Fiandre before choosing my backsplash tile. :-)

ineffablespace, thanks for posting the Fiandre info. Their Web site has the most gorgeous photos.

--Lee

    Bookmark   October 13, 2013 at 9:37PM
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firstmmo

ineffable: have you seen this Fiandre in real life? I noticed that there's only a few places in the USA that carry this. I am going to go see this next week when I am near SanFran in that area, just out of curiosity. Their website is indeed gorgeous!

bmorepanic: I was thinking about the large slabs when I was first pondering this. I was in SF and saw an old bank and noticed how large of space the flooring was and it was all huge marble tiles. Then I searched commercial bldgs with large slab walls (found mostly travertine and other material, but some marble). My BIL is from Rome and said that many many places he grew up around had tons of marble that he knew were over 100 yrs old, especially the churches--whole walls made of marble.

Here is my quick Sketch-Up version of it. I think we have the mechanical requirements now understood, so it's just a matter of my designing it around those parameters. The pic does not show the rivets that I will need (3 at the least) along each side that will hold the marble to the frame. I am considering actually covering the rivets with marble buttons or making the rivets chrome.

    Bookmark   October 16, 2013 at 2:36AM
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scrappy25

that kerlite looks like it would work really well also. I'd really like to see if these large format tiles could used for coutnertops, but that would be another thread.

    Bookmark   October 16, 2013 at 9:33AM
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barthelemy

I have seen a full slab of Fiandre's Calacatta Maximum in real life, I even have a 45 x 90 cm sample standing on my desk, and it looks gorgeous.

The Calacatta Extreme does not look as nice in my opinion.

    Bookmark   October 16, 2013 at 9:45AM
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kaysd

The Fiandre looks gorgeous in the photo above. A large format porcelain tile like Fiandre or Kerlite could work well for this application. I saw a vanity display in a slab showroom where they used tiles like this to create a vanity top with a 4" thick mitered edge and an integrated sink. It looks like it was all carved out of a large slab of stone.

I don't think I would attempt to mix a porcelain "marble" hood with real marble counters. I would either use the porcelain for the counters too, or use something completely different for the counters, like grey or solid white quartz.

I love this hood from Houzz. It is a different material, but similar scale to what you are considering.

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    Bookmark   October 16, 2013 at 12:31PM
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kaysd

I posted photos of the porcelain counter and sink on this other thread on May 16th. (My firm blocks access to Photobucket, so I can't post them again in this thread.)

Here is a link that might be useful: porcelain tile counter & sink

    Bookmark   October 16, 2013 at 1:13PM
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firstmmo

Kay: That's a a wonderfully similar example--love it! Thank you so much for posting this. That's what I love about GW--so much great info sharing.

    Bookmark   October 16, 2013 at 9:09PM
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firstmmo

Did the layout with my slabs this morning....here it is, the front of the marble rangehood. 11' tall and 48" wide.....will sit on a steel frame reinforced into the wall. Crossing my fingers it will all work out well. Because of the need to secure it to the frame, there will be bolts and so we are trying to figure out whether it will have a shaker-like stiles to cover the screws or whether I will make it look like it has rivets.

    Bookmark   March 8, 2014 at 11:27PM
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firstmmo

Here is a beautiful example of a much smaller marble rangehood.

Here is a link that might be useful:

    Bookmark   March 8, 2014 at 11:32PM
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romy718

Interesting to see your original layout again. Your progress post of windows, cabinets, buffet & bathrooms has definitely exceeded the high expectations I have of your remodeling projects. Your 1st kitchen is one of my all time favorites. This one-wow!
Please, keep us updated with pics. Gorgeous marble.

This post was edited by romy718 on Sun, Mar 9, 14 at 12:36

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 1:36AM
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oldbat2be

firsthouse_mp - love the slab and see you chose movement this time. I hesitate to broach the subject of range hood size vs. cooktop size but it did cross my mind that the capture might not be large enough with this configuration. (Your sketch-up hood height seems to be quite tall).

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 8:50AM
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Trebruchet

firsthouse_mp:

There is no need for exposed fasteners on your slab. Have your fabricator imbed bolts with epoxy, the same way he probably does sinks.

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 9:02AM
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firstmmo

Thanks Trebuchet! This tip might solve my design problem with the rivets. I will ask my fabricator who is worried about that slab staying affixed to the steel frame.

This has been an interesting "meeting of the minds" between my fabricator, the structural engineers, the frame fabricator, my contractor and myself. Each of us bringing our own set of worries to the table. I love that GW now has some expertise to lend to this idea.

OldBat: I used the calculation of 17 x 18 x 14 (room dimensions) and divided by 4 to get the min cfm. This calc comes to 1,071cfm. We are using a 1200 cfm insert, so hopefully I will be OK. I have a 48" range.

    Bookmark   March 9, 2014 at 12:39PM
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firstmmo

So, here is what I am hoping to achieve:

Here is where we are currently:

The mock-up using plywood instead of the real thing so that I could envision it:

The slab that will become the front:

Only 48 hrs from now, they will put on two sides, then put in the liner and then finally adhere the 3rd side....

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:08PM
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romy718

The excitement is building. Lots of pics please.

    Bookmark   May 12, 2014 at 11:16PM
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speaktodeek

Please take pictures of how the workers hoist the slab up there and how it's secured to keep from falling back down! It's one thing for a buncha guys to bring in a slab and tilt it up onto an island, but this is a slab hoisted up into thin air! I'm curious to see how they do it. Obviously the technology exists as many skyscrapers are stone-clad, but I'm curious how they will do this inside a residence.

I could NEVER have this hood. Every time I'd cook I'd wonder if it would fall down and crush me!

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 6:43AM
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oldbat2be

How exciting! Can't wait to see pictures.

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:15AM
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aktillery9

Wow! Cannot wait to see the progress!!

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 8:16AM
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ppbenn

Firsthouse cant wait to see this up and functional.
I lost out to DH when I wanted a similar rangehood only in soapstone. So am VERY excited for you. It will be fabulous!
Please take lots of pics (video?) of the installation. We all want to see the nuts and bolts of it so to speak ;)

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 11:14AM
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detroit_burb

firsthouse_mp,
First Canadian Place Tower in downtown Toronto is clad in Italian marble with careful attention to grain matching throughout, inside and outside. There are no bolts exposed. It is a 73 story shopping/parking/office tower built in the mid 70's.

If you love marble, you need to find pictures.

There must be a way to do this with no exposed fasteners...

    Bookmark   May 13, 2014 at 3:59PM
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firstmmo

The steel cage is up:

The sides go up:

The templating of the front:

The mechanics of how it is up there: epoxy, bolts, sitting on a steel ledge, wedged in at top with wood:

Inside the cage:

The front is up:


Today they will install the liner for the vent-a-hood, then tomorrow the last side will be placed on it. We are looking at how to "cap" the rivets so that the bolt side is covered. Originally thought we might cover them with stiles so that it looked "Shaker style", but I am liking the clean look.

This was a huge cooperative project between my structural engineer, my architect, my contractors, my fabricator and myself. My vision for a marble hood all coming together with a lot of collaboration, sweat but so far no tears!

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 4:44PM
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Texas_Gem

OMG!! I have never seen anything like that before. It is an amazing feat.

Do you have any other pics of the rest of the house? If I remember correctly you had marble everywhere in the bathroom as well. I was trying to find pics last night to show my husband but for some reason I couldn't find the thread.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 4:56PM
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chicagoans

It's going to be fantastic! Can't wait to see more. And that island... wow, it's huge. I'd love that much space. Please keep posting pictures!

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 5:00PM
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Gigi_4321

Stunning!!!! I bet you are glad you made it happen and didn't give up. The floors look awesome too, I might have to come by and pick up a scrap....

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 5:06PM
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speaktodeek

Wow, I feel so much better, now. I wonder why they have the bolts sticking so far out, and only on the one side?

Did those guys just manually lift that piece up there?

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 6:24PM
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oldbat2be

What a visionary you are! I couldn't imagine it until I saw it. Bet we'll see this again and again through the years in various magazines and online. How happy you must be, congrats!

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 6:25PM
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christina222_gw

Amazing!

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 6:34PM
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firstmmo

Thanks everyone....I feel like it was worth it to push the team. My contractors have been "pushed" on so many of these challenging things, but they always seem to make it happen. My contractors are beyond awesome!

I gave up a number of budgeted things for this hood and am so glad it seems like my risk has been successful. I deleted refrigerator drawers and a small bev fridge to pay for this! But, in the end I don't think it's going to prove to be any more $ than the ridiculous price I paid for a Modernaire custom hood from my other house.

texasgem: Here are updated photos of the master bath....my fabricators had quite a time executing on this design too. I think I drove them batty with my mitered edges and matching slabs. In the end, only one seam just wouldn't work and I had to "give" on it, knowing that we both tried to make all the seams perfect, but it can't always work exactly with limited materials and non-consecutive slabs.


    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 8:01PM
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mgmum

Wow! It looks amazing! I can't wait to see it when everything is finished.

    Bookmark   May 14, 2014 at 10:13PM
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romy718

Everything is beyond stunning. I love the bathroom floor too.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 12:32AM
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crl_

Stunning!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 12:39AM
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strayerdarb

That marble hood is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. You are so strong. I tend to let contractors talk me out of things. Not anymore!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 12:54AM
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MarinaGal

Your vision and hood are stunning. I also appreciate the detail on how it was engineered/installed - fascinating!! Can't wait to see your finished kitchen!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 9:47AM
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Pipdog

wow! It looks amazing. What a statement piece!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 10:27AM
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laurencp

Amazing is right! I commend your courage to even attempt this, stunning! Thanks for posting the photos.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 2:15PM
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OOTM_Mom

...picking jaw up off the floor! Love the hood and bathroom!

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 2:19PM
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bicyclegirl1

This is breath taking, firsthouse. Above & beyond anything I've seen. Thanks for sharing the process with us. I'm sure we'll be seeing more stone hoods in the near future. Wishing one would be mine!

I look forward to seeing how it's finished, as well as, the whole kitchen. And well, the rest of your gorgeous house.

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 10:40PM
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firstmmo

Today the Vent-a-Hood went in. They left this third side open so that they had room to work. The final panel of marble got put in in the afternoon but I didn't get a chance to photograph it yet.

Here is a close up of the rivets. I had originally thought to completely covering these, but am now thinking of making them look "industrial" and putting half-dome stainless covers over these. What do you think? Should I do stiles or rivets?

    Bookmark   May 15, 2014 at 11:11PM
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christina222_gw

I like the rivets with just the domes. I think covering them with stiles would disturb the clean lines of the stone that everyone has worked so hard to achieve.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 6:34AM
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ppbenn

Thank you so much for all of the pictures. I so want to do this but since my DH and I are DIY; it's not happening. Can you send your crew to Pennsylvania?
Your house is fantastic. That Bath! Did you design all this? My hat is off to you lady :)

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 8:16AM
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chicagoans

I also like just the rivets with domes. From a distance you don't even see the rivets, but stiles you would definitely see. It would be tough to match the veining of the marble and I just don't think it would look as sleek.

If you're worried about seeing the domes over the rivets, I think it would be pretty easy to paint them white (before installing) and then paint on some light veining after installing to blend in with the marble. But honestly, I don't think others will notice them.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 9:31AM
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OOTM_Mom

I'm leaning towards stiles to cover them. Just a clean border strip at the bottom. I assume they can make the strip lay flush against hood.

I think it depends on other elements of your final kitchen if you want to see the rivets or not.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 10:13AM
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bicyclegirl1

Either way you go, it's still going to be stunning. Since you're the very talented designer, I know you'll come up w/ the perfect decision. I'd come to you for advice on which way to go, so for what it's worth w/ my arm chair, emulating designer advice :), w/out the stiles, I think it keeps it a very clean modern(?) contemporary look. Adding the stiles will soften it up & give it a little more warmth. I'd love to see what it would look like w/ the stiles. I'm a very visual person!

Again, whatever decision you make, will be the perfect one for your kitchen. I can't wait to see the finale pictures.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 11:09AM
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feisty68

Domes over rivets please :) . I wouldn't clutter your beautiful clean design with stiles.

The space itself is absolutely stunning - kudos to the team and you. The hood just makes such a great focal point. Carbonate minerals never looked so good.

The bathroom is fantastic too. Love the tile floor.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 11:51AM
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firstmmo

Here is a SketchUp of the stiles. This is what I had thought would cover the rivets. Now that the rivets are in, it's very hard to see them. I am definitely looking at covering them with domed caps (see link below).

You can see the screws below. There are four on each side, including the side panels:

Here is a link that might be useful: Screw covers

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 11:05PM
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oldbat2be

Of what would the stiles be made? I think the screw covers will become invisible, fairly quickly. If not paint, then decoupage them. (Take remnant of slab to Staples, photocopy, playing with different color options).

P.S. - your master bath? The shot you posted has to be the 'money' shot. It made my head hurt trying to figure out all the decisions which you must have made. If you were closer (and if I could afford you!!), your phone would be a-ringing.

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 11:24PM
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firstmmo

oldbat:
You would not need my help! You have excellent taste and your kitchen is a testament to your design sense. I tell my clients to trust their gut (and I give little tips and helpful guidance along the way!). You are a great example of someone who has it all in their head, but needs to be reassured :)

Thanks for the nice compliments everyone. As with all of my homes, I put a great deal of heart, soul and time into these designs and I am lucky enough to have great partners along the way. My contractors, my architect and dozens of workers ALWAYS indulge my nickpicking, my crazy ideas, and my "have to have it this way" in order for things to look the way that my head dreams things up. I may have pushed my marble/stone fabricator to the very edge with this hood and the master bath! It tested the entire team and their talent to make these two things happen.

I can't wait to have many more fun pics to share to inspire you, as so many of you have inspired me. One of the most inspiring websites I have is this one of our local builders. Their homes are spectacular:
http://www.pacificpeninsula.com/

The stiles would be made of marble too, with an effort to try and match the graining. But I am VERY much leaning toward no stiles. I really want to tear away the paper on the island and the counters to get a picture and see the whole room, but the painters are there and are trying to keep things covered for the next week. I think once everything is cleaned up and uncovered, the clean lines and the marble impact will shine through. I hope "oldbat" is right and I have a "money shot" somewhere in this house because a year from now when we hope to sell, I will want it all to be worth it :) My middle child will be heading to cellege and lord knows we all need a moneyshot to send our kids to college!!!!

    Bookmark   May 16, 2014 at 11:58PM
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Gigi_4321

M, no, no stiles! I won't let you. I mean, I know it's your house, but I don't like them. (Quote from Mary McDonald, Million dollar decorator) But really, no. My suggestions
1. Leave as is for the industrial look
2. Faux paint the top ones, put a narrow (4"-6" or ? can't tell how high the screw is from the bottom) strip of stainless or black painted stainless around the bottom of the hood. The stainless will tie in with your range or the black will tie into your windows. I love the floor in the master bath, it's neutral enough, but mimics the grain in the vanity. Can't wait to come through again. I'm in the middle of three kitchen remodels, none of which will see any marble or high end finishes. Here's hoping for a college scholarship so you can stay in the house a little longer.

    Bookmark   May 17, 2014 at 2:19PM
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firstmmo

Final side went up:

They will be bolting that final side and then snipping the ends, then I need to figure out how I will cover these. Looking at a few options, but for now, I do love that clean look. A stainless metal piece will cover the underside rust colored frame, which should also be installed this week. Can't wait to see the backsplash too!

Somehow we are going to be all done in 5 weeks. I think a lot is going to happen between today and June 27th!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2014 at 10:19PM
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OOTM_Mom

Now that I've seen the stile mockup, I dont like it either. I thought it would just be one band across the bottom, not an entire frame looking thing.

So impressive cant wait to see the finished product!

    Bookmark   May 19, 2014 at 10:29PM
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Gigi_4321

Ok, now I see all the bolts, I thought they were just at the top and bottom. I'm kinda loving the industrial bolts. At least you can live with it for while, right?

    Bookmark   May 19, 2014 at 11:05PM
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feisty68

Yummy hood! I don't think the bolts need covering unless it's a practical issue - I like the industrial vibe.

    Bookmark   May 19, 2014 at 11:19PM
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romy718

Very impressive. Love the movement of the marble. Keep the pictures coming, please.

    Bookmark   May 20, 2014 at 11:27PM
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lisa_a

WOW! Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow!

I loved your previous kitchen and I can tell I'm going to love this one, too.

PS What's the paint color for your island?

    Bookmark   May 21, 2014 at 1:09PM
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chiefy

Wow. Absolutely amazing.

    Bookmark   May 21, 2014 at 1:22PM
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LizPel12

Wow! When I first started reading this thread, I couldn't envision what you were trying to do... but the results... SO stunning!!!

    Bookmark   May 21, 2014 at 2:37PM
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firstmmo

Lisa_a: The island color is a "stock" color from my cabinet company. It comes closest to Cape May Cobblestone by Benjamin Moore.

Appliances arriving this week and being installed next week hopefully. My newest challenge will take another few weeks to reveal.....a "hidden pantry". See that doorway next to the refrigerator? I am going to do a fake cabinet front that will act as one door, and it will swing in and my pantry will be behind that. Kinda like this:


The cabinet door will look exactly like my refrige panel except the panel will be one piece. Hopefully it will look like there are two cabinets on that wall and actually there will be a refrigerator and a pantry :)

    Bookmark   May 21, 2014 at 9:01PM
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feisty68

I'm looking forward to seeing that!

    Bookmark   May 21, 2014 at 9:43PM
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Gigi_4321

M, that secret pantry door is going to be awesome!!
I changed my mind, I think the screw cover would be a good compromise between modern and industrial. Looking forward to another visit, hint, hint......

    Bookmark   May 21, 2014 at 9:53PM
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firstmmo

Gigi: come over any time! They are painting right now (so the fumes are rather noxious), but seriously, you can drop by any time and take a run through. Otherwise, call me and I'll come over and meet you :)

    Bookmark   May 22, 2014 at 10:39PM
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detroit_burb

Looking wonderful! It is fun to watch this masterpiece come together :) though understand all of the work and planning it took

    Bookmark   May 22, 2014 at 11:15PM
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baileybug28

Love this design. I'm building a new home and I'm attempting to do this but not really sure how to do it? Can you give me some advice?

    Bookmark   March 7, 2015 at 6:45PM
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firstmmo

Bailey: Are you talking about the hidden pantry or the marble rangehood?

    Bookmark   March 8, 2015 at 8:04PM
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gardenamy

Firsthouse - Did you ever do a reveal? Did I miss it?

    Bookmark   March 9, 2015 at 10:50AM
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firstmmo

amy: No I haven't done one but I promise it will be soon! I had a few months that "went down the rabbit hole" when my mom had a stroke and moved in with us...me becoming her caregiver while she got better. I am just about ready, even if I have no exterior landscaping!

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gardenamy

Can't wait! And you can post exterior landscaping later! Hope your Mom is recovering and doing well!

    Bookmark   March 10, 2015 at 5:44AM
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Gemcap

No I haven't done one (yet)...
That;s good to know. I was so sure I had missed it, scoured google with all kinds of search terms with firstmmo kitchen reveal. I did see your first lovely kitchen.Waiting...waiting...

    Bookmark   March 10, 2015 at 8:51AM
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wongberneysonoma

firstmmo: sorry, but this is the only way I know how to reach you! I saw a picture from 2009 of your paper towel in-cabinet-nook holder. It looked like a little circular screw with a silver dowel. Can you please advise where you bought that dowel/screw set? Thanks!!!

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firstmmo

Berney: That's just a regular shower curtain holder with a place to insert a pole and then a cup to hold the other end. Like this but in stainless. Contractor cut the rod to fit inside paper towel holder.

    Bookmark   March 10, 2015 at 2:17PM
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