New To Kitchens? Posting Pics? Read Me! [Help keep on Page 1]

buehlAugust 28, 2012

(One last time!)

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buehl

The following thread contains the information we need to help you find a layout that works for you and your family as well as how to draw up and label a floor plan.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg010521247761.html

What are zones and how do you design with them in mind?

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0508230128712.html

A piece of advice:

When you post a layout for comments, please do not take the comments you receive personally. Everyone here is trying to help, not criticize maliciously. We want you to have a kitchen that, in the end, functions wonderfully well and looks nice overall. This may mean that some of us may tear apart your layout and rebuild it to what we think will work better, but it's done with good intentions. We're not the best at just "validating" someones layout, we're best at critiquing!

I will warn you that most of us here are "function over form" (or "function first")...meaning we strive first for a functional layout and then fit the form or look around it. It is far easier to make a functional kitchen look nice than it is to make a nice looking but dysfunctional kitchen functional. So, if you are a form/looks over function person, be sure to state that when you post.

Some people here think "function over form" means that we want all kitchens to look the same....not true! What we do want is all kitchens to function well...which means that in 99% of the cases, the workflow is the same...so that will mean some similarities due to workflow. However, as each kitchen is unique, each will have its own unique quirks, etc.

In the end, remember this is your kitchen. You don't have to make any of the recommended changes if you don't want to!

[Note: If you're just posting for validation of your layout (i.e., you don't want comments that suggest changes), state that as well. If you don't, people will comment on it!

Warning: People may comment anyway, it's tough to let a kitchen go that you think is dysfunctional and will cause angst later...especially if it's not yet installed and we think we can help. Bear with us, we're just trying to help!]

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buehl

Contains: Links from the "Read Me" thread
Pantries
Useful Information (NKBA links, Other Forums)
Helpful Threads (a myriad of past & present threads containing useful/helpful information)
Tile Information.
Stone Information (how to shop/test/install stone counters, how to remove stains)
Cleaning Your Kitchen
Custom Cabinetmaker Sample Agreement

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0105344116836.html

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enduring

BUMP:)

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Bump

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Jump

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sump

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mpagmom

bump

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clump

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pump

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crump

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breezygirl

What?? No musical bumps yet? ;)

Angie's posting of the great song 'Hang Me' on a couple of other threads (thanks Angie!) reminded me of the several Flatt and Scruggs (Foggy Mountain Boys) songs my Dad had on his mp3 when he died. I've been devouring any of their songs I can get my ears on lately. Turns out I truly enjoy old bluegrass.

One of my many current favorites is....

Here is a link that might be useful: Roll in My Sweet Baby's Arms

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ellabee_2016

Let me take this chance to thank Buehl and the entire collection of bumpers for their persistence and effort that's made the collective trove of information here so much more available. Thanks very much; you've helped many more people than you'll ever know.

Here's one of my favorite pieces of music on the web, 'Free at Last' by the Blind Boys of Alabama.

Here is a link that might be useful: Free at Last

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tea4all

This is too good to be on pg 2!!

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Angie_DIY

Stump

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tea4all

Back to pg 1 you go!

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enduring

Mump(s)

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breezygirl

Music, anyone?

It's a sunny day here so I'm enjoying the heck out of it before the dreary rainy months start.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sunshine

    Bookmark   September 3, 2012 at 4:15PM
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blfenton

If I could post this song I would but I'm techno challenged so for me it's:

"School Day (Ring! Ring! Goes the Bell)" by the king of rock 'n roll - Chuck Berry.

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breezygirl

Blfenton--apropos! I'll link a YouTube video of it below. My little DS starts 1st grade Wednesday. I'll be sad to see him gone from me all day everyday now. His kinder year was mornings so we had lunch together everyday.

Ellabee--I just got done bopping along to that one. Very nice! And for a second I thought Tyler Perry was on the drums back there.

Here is a link that might be useful: Go Chuck!

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tea4all

Move on up to first page please.

Love the music links! :)

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mpagmom

Sorry I don't have time to get creative.

Bump!

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enduring

me neither, Bump

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Angie_DIY

Trump

What a voice:

Here is a link that might be useful: Davina and the Vagabonds

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mpagmom

bumpity bump

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breezygirl

Angie--Wow! I love her! Wow again! I listened to a few of her other songs. It would be fantastic to see her live. Thanks for introducing her.

The kids and I were grooving to this tonight at dinner. All I could find on Youtube were covers so this is from another site.

Here is a link that might be useful: Stuck in the Middle

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enduring

Lets slow it down a little

Here is a link that might be useful: Raitt & Jones

    Bookmark   September 6, 2012 at 7:54AM
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breezygirl

Enduring--Two awesome ladies on a great live performance! I wish Norah Jones' career had skyrocketed after her first album. I really enjoy her. That one is going on my play list also.

The first few bars of that song reminded me of this song.

Here is a link that might be useful: Still Crazy

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angela12345

With the current thread running on "Please show me your stools" in mind ...

Dump

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Angie_DIY

Angela! ROTFLMAO!

Sump pump.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sarah Mclachlan -- Hold On

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enduring

Rump - had to be

Thanks for the music Breezy and Angie and Ellabee. I haven't listened to all but am working on the play list!

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enduring

I Love the Cello. I either played a cello in a previous life, or I was a cello.

Here is a link that might be useful: Natalie Merchant on the BBC 2010

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enduring

Ump

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Angie_DIY

hump

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Lump

Here is a link that might be useful: I Blinked Once (and It Was Gone)

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tea4all

Bumpity bump.

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enduring

I think Norwegian Wood would look great on my new island.

Angie, great song you linked.

Here is a link that might be useful: Beatles

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Angie_DIY

trump

Enduring, embarrassingly, I never knew the title of that was Norwegian Wood!

I love this one:

Here is a link that might be useful: Crayola doesn't make a color for your eyes

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enduring

Crunch

OMG Angie that is the cutest song!!! I loved it!

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Angie_DIY

Grump

I love this one, too:

Here is a link that might be useful: I Don't Know (by Lisa Hannigan)

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enduring

Another great song Angie

Chump

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breezygirl

Frump.

You cannot be frumpy when you listen to this song.

Here is a link that might be useful: Susan Tedeschi

    Bookmark   September 11, 2012 at 1:14PM
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breezygirl

Jump.

Great rendition of a blues classic by another musician/sing lost way too young. Btw, if you don't know Jeff Healey, he's blind not stoned. :)

Here is a link that might be useful: As the Years Go Passing By

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Angie_DIY

thump

Here is a link that might be useful: On the Radio

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slump

Here is a link that might be useful: Torn

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mugwump

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enduring

Breezy, I listened to that song at 5AM, it woke me up! Very nice. And Angie another cute school room song. Haven't listened to the last one yet, but I better

BUMP

to get this up to page ONE.

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Angie_DIY

Bump

Here is a link that might be useful: Harvest Moon

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tea4all

Bump it up to 1.

Angie that's a great song! Love it.

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breezygirl

Angie-- that crayola sing has been stuck in my head for a day and a half now! So cute. I couldn't open the others you've linked recently. My iPad gets to YouTube, tries to load, and then a message box says movie could not load. I think the ipad has difficulty with some from google that have too many redirects. I'm no expert though. :)

Last night was the first night I've gotten off from the kids since mid-June. I wanted an escape so headed to the theater. The only movie worth considering within my timeframe was 'Timeless'. The title made me laugh as I now associate that word with the "timeless" kitchen style. Lol! Anyway, the flick wasn't too bad if you could get around the excessive gore. The soundtrack was enjoyable. Here's my favorite tune.

Here is a link that might be useful: White Light, White Heat

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Angie_DIY

Bump

One for the Waaay-back machine:

Here is a link that might be useful: Tanya T.

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Angie_DIY

Bumpin' for Brandi

Here is a link that might be useful: Turpentine

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Angie_DIY

Bumping.

Another Lisa Hannigan

Here is a link that might be useful: Passenger

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Bump

Here is a link that might be useful: Natalie Merchant -- kids' song

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enduring

Early morning Bump

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tea4all

Oh dear. It's on the bottom of pg 2 again. Gotta go to pg 1.

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enduring

Goodnight Bump!

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Angie_DIY

Bump

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Bumpity bump

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Bumpity bump bump

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tea4all

Bumpity bump bump bump.

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tea4all

What?? Still on pg 2?! Big BUMP!

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Angie_DIY

Bump

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enduring

Bump!!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Paul Simon

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Angie_DIY

Bump.

What were you doing on pg. 3, you naughty thread!?

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enduring

Caught before you turned the corner.
Bump

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Angie_DIY

Man this forum moves fast!!!

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Angie_DIY

Bumping again

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Molly Phillips

This page was so stinking helpful. My brain is fried, but I'm learning so much!

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Angie_DIY

Bump!

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Bumpity bump.

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leela4

bump

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Bumpity bump

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tea4all

Bumpity bump bump. Up you go.

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tea4all

Oh no, on pg 2 again. Bump you go.

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tea4all

Gracious sakes! Today you are on pg 3. UP UP UP you go!

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fouramblues

Bump....

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Angie_DIY

Bump. (Thanks to tea4all for her diligence!)

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Bumpity bump

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Bumpity bump bump

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tea4all

You're welcome Angie. I think the info on this thread is most helpful and should always be easily available. I've bookmarked it and even printed some of it for continual reference. I really appreciate buehl's compiling it all!

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Angie_DIY

Yeah, Buehl rocks!

Bump.

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donaleen

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enduring

Bump!

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tea4all

Bump!

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beachpea3

Bump- but I thought we had a Sticky now

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enduring

bump

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Angie_DIY

Bump!

Beachpea, the problem is that the sticky does not cover everything this one does, so we are keeping this one going, at Buehl's request, for the time being.

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tea4all

Bump up to pg 1 please!

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tea4all

Trying another bump.

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Bump

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tea4all

Bump

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breezygirl

I haven't been on the forum much lately, and every time I am this has already been bumped!

I've been missing my camera a lot lately. The expensive camera DH had to have and bought without talking to me or doing any research won't focus for the life of me. He has never even used the d@mn thing which makes me more frustrated. I hate to buy another one given that DH's "had to have" is only 1.5 years old, but I may have to since I can't take pictures anymore!!!!!

All summer then kids and I had lots of fun at dozens of parks, the beach, and various zoos. I only have a couple of pics to from all that fun. I don't have a fancy phone so pics are lousy on it. Enough whining.

Here is a link that might be useful: Kodachrome song makes me want a camera

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Angie_DIY

Breezy, I always loved that song. Had it on a "party tape" (remember them?!) back in college.

Thanks for the update and the tune.

Let's go back a little farther!

Here is a link that might be useful: That'll be the day

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Angie_DIY

Bump

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Angie_DIY

Bumpy

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Bumpity bump

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breezygirl

I remember party tapes! The concept makes me feel old now as the crazy young kids nowadays don't even know what records or even tapes are. Pretty soon, no one will know what a CD is either. Sigh.

Another of my all-time favorite Paul Simon songs, with a duet twist...

Here is a link that might be useful: Me and Julio and....

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tea4all

I've no music link. Just a big Bump!

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debrak_2008

bump

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tea4all

Bump, bump.

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tea4all

Here's a weekend bump.

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tea4all

Bump Bump!

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trailrunnerbiker

Why are you all bumping this when tamara has the sticky in a long term position at the top of the page ??? It is the exact same as this post. Seems like it is a lot of trouble to bump this :) c

    Bookmark   October 6, 2012 at 5:55PM
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buehl

Tamara's doesn't have all the other links, etc. It's just the first message...the other eleven posts that are the "meat" of the Read Me thread...layout help, planning for storage, etc...are not included.

When I have time, I work on the FAQ and it's close to being done. When it is, I'm going to ask Tamara to put up a different sticky or add to the current one that has a "directory" or "index" of the FAQ (similar to the FAQ list page). When that's done, we'll retire the last Read Me thread. We've been doing this since at least 2008, maybe 2007...I may miss it! :-)

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enduring

bump

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enduring

bump

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tea4all

Bump this good info up to pg 1!

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tea4all

Bump again please!

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Angie_DIY

Bump!

Here is a link that might be useful: And I moved...

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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump

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Bumpity bump bump

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oldbat2be

Tuesday bump :)

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Angie_DIY

Bump

Here is a link that might be useful: Momma's gonna bargain with the old cookpot

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tea4all

New day, another bump.

I like your music link Angie.

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Angie_DIY

Bumperoo

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enduring

bump

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Angie_DIY

Bumpin'

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tea4all

Bumping up to pg 1 before the weekend hits.

    Bookmark   October 12, 2012 at 9:06AM
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enduring

bump

    Bookmark   October 12, 2012 at 4:44PM
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Angie_DIY

bump!

    Bookmark   October 12, 2012 at 11:28PM
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tea4all

Bump!

    Bookmark   October 13, 2012 at 1:56PM
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tea4all

Bump, Bump!

    Bookmark   October 13, 2012 at 1:57PM
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Angie_DIY

Bump

    Bookmark   October 14, 2012 at 11:58AM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump

    Bookmark   October 14, 2012 at 11:36PM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump

    Bookmark   October 15, 2012 at 8:47PM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump bump

Wow, what were you doing on pg. 3?

    Bookmark   October 17, 2012 at 12:38AM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump bump bump

    Bookmark   October 17, 2012 at 12:48PM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump bump bumpity bump

    Bookmark   October 17, 2012 at 10:35PM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump bump bumpity bump bump

    Bookmark   October 18, 2012 at 1:10PM
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akrogirl

Bump

    Bookmark   October 18, 2012 at 8:40PM
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Angie_DIY

Bump

    Bookmark   October 19, 2012 at 11:23AM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump

    Bookmark   October 19, 2012 at 3:19PM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump

    Bookmark   October 19, 2012 at 11:00PM
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Bumpity bump bump bump

    Bookmark   October 20, 2012 at 11:30AM
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Angie_DIY

Bumpity bump bump bumpity bump

    Bookmark   October 20, 2012 at 4:07PM
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enduring

Doing my part to help Angie out with the "bump"!

    Bookmark   October 20, 2012 at 9:41PM
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Angie_DIY

Thanks, enduring! Right back atcha!

    Bookmark   October 21, 2012 at 9:08PM
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