Canopy Room Just About Finished

KevinMPDecember 15, 2012

Excuse the double post, but I know some of you won't venture back to that old, long post. I'm finally just about finished the room. I just have to paint a piece of moulding to cap off the plaster/wood area from removing the loft bump out and pick up my tartan wool afghan from my parents' house over Christmas for the foot of the bed.

In my opinion (which is the only one that counts), it turned out better than I had expected. There's still the issue of what to do with the loft. That'll be the subject of another thread for another day. Enjoy, and thank you for all of your encouragement.

(You'll see that I painted the ceiling off white (MAB Luxe Low Lustre custom matched), the trim a high gloss off white to match the rest of the trim from my first floor (a BM custom match in the Alkyd variety), and the walls red (Pratt & Lambert China Closet Red in Velvet finish (historic Williamsburg color. I also changed the bed orientation, changed the bed linens, removed the extra slats from the blinds, removed the bump out from the loft area (PITA), added a Library wall sconce from the Restoration Hardware outlet here in vintage brass, and changed shades to get matching ones from Restoration Hardware outlet (European Drum Shades in Goldenrod).)

I'll take some photos in the daylight. The day escaped me. I was working on the damn thing from 9:15 until 4:30.

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bethohio3

What a wonderful room! I'd come stay in your guest room anytime!

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 6:00PM
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cyn427

The only problem I can foresee is getting your guests to leave. That looks spectacular-cozy, gracious, and charming. Perfect---as is your entire house. Thanks so much for the update.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 6:30PM
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daisychain01

So glad you kept the canopy. I adore the whole room.

My dd is looking for a new duvet cover. Would you share where you got yours with that lovely scalloped edge from? Thanks!

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 6:54PM
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Lyban

Oh, I have been waiting for this update.
Just beautiful.
Everyting looks so warm and rich.
Love it...

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 7:00PM
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Lyban

Oh, I have been waiting for this update.
Just beautiful.
Everyting looks so warm and rich.
Love it...

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 7:03PM
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teacats

Warm, charming and totally elegant!!! :)

Perhaps consider adding a small but sturdy (LOL! -- that would be a plus for me!) stool under the new lamp for folks to put on shoes etc.?

Really magazine worthy room! :)

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 7:11PM
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katrina_ellen

It's so warm and cozy and elegant as well. That makes me want to paint mine a warm rich color. Love the furniture, paint color, textiles, sconce - everything. Really lovely. Thanks for posting!

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 9:17PM
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KevinMP

The duvet is Ralph Lauren from the Spring Hill collection. It was just discontinued so you can get it for "cheap" at the outlet right now because of its extra holiday sale. I paid $120 I think (it's normally $300, I think). Its slightly off white (not really enough for what I was going for, but it'll do), and has textured seersucker stripes and eyelet edging. The skirt was $6 (yes, six) at the Restoration Hardware outlet (normally $129--an insane discount). It's from the Italian satin stich hotel collection.

Thanks everyone. I'm thinking of having my contractor put book shelves in the loft area above the bed. Or plantation shutters. I'm leaning toward the shelves but with a back. The reason for that is that I want to cut open the floor on the loft (but so that it could be put back) so that my walk in closet which is beneath it can make use of the skylight and pot lights and, at the same time use the remaining loft floor for storage. Hard for you to envision, but it makes sense if you know the space.

This post was edited by KevinMP on Sat, Dec 15, 12 at 23:20

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 9:37PM
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janetraz

Glad to see you kept the canopy. I really like it. The room is so warm, rich and cozy looking. I enjoy looking at your pics and I love your house. It's really, really beautiful.

    Bookmark   December 15, 2012 at 10:19PM
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EG3d

Very nicely done. Why does the red paint stop on the wall going into the loft above the bed? I think the red should continue on that side wall. I have to say I much prefer the position of the bed now. When it was perpendicular to the direction of the sky lights the bed canopy and skylights fought each other. Great house!

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 2:18AM
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Elraes Miller

You are ahead of me. I was going to suggest doors on the opening. Or a copy of the window with books in front. Agree with a small chair near the lamp wall, or short width bench.

I only wish my energy was at your level. Hang on to it, plus your eye for beauty. What a wonderful home filled with love and comfort.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 5:34AM
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palimpsest

The bed and canopy work much better in that orientation in the room.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 9:23AM
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KevinMP

Some morning pictures without flash:

And here is the chopped off loft and a picture of the ceiling in my walk in closet to show you what I mean. I want to just cut through the cedar floor boards in between the two beams, which will give me additional shelving above both sides of the closet and also give me direct access to the skylight and pot lights above the loft. In order to block of the storage I would gain from sight in the bedroom, however, I would need to erect something just above the canopy bed. As I said, I was thinking either book shelves or plantation shutters. I don't want it to be a permanent solution because some day, someone else may want to use this loft.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 9:29AM
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funkyart

Very nice.. so warm and welcoming. I've been eying that duvet too but decided it was too summery-- your photos have me rethinking.

Will you do something to protect your clothes from fading once you open up the skylight?

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 9:42AM
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geokid

What about hanging a pretty piece of stained glass to cover the opening? And it can be backlit by the light in the loft.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 11:27AM
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palimpsest

Are those oval slots hand-holds for the stairs?

I have not seen that before.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 11:58AM
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chibimimi

What a beautiful room in a stunning house! Love the cat, too -- a perfect accessory for the room!

If you add bookshelves or doors to the nook, it will make the room seem a lot smaller. What about building storage just across the back wall of the loft (maybe shelves with doors) then leaving the area from the skylight forward open to the bedroom?

Or, add the storage to the back wall with the opening to the closet below, then put a wall of frosted or "white" glass between the skylight and the front of the loft. You could then use the remaining ledge as a sculpture nook, backlit by the skylight/frosted glass. This would allow the skylight to light both spaces and give the appearance of more space in the bedroom.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 2:29PM
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crl_

So cozy! Thank you for sharing.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 6:41PM
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Kasy

That is a very beautiful room, I love that bed!

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 9:18PM
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cooperbailey

Thanks for showing the finished product! I love it.It is a jewel box of a room.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 10:51PM
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KevinMP

Pal, there is a center rail of wood that runs from the top of the third floor stair case all the way to the basement and there are those oval grab spots on each level where the stairs turn. I don't know if they're original or not, but I think the wood is because it's built in to the stairs. Regardless, they're convenient and a lot better than the grab bars and things most people use in these houses.

I went to Ikea today and bought 30" x 24" wide antique white cabinets with glass shelves. I'm going to put those in the loft and have my contractor trim out the opening with modest trim. With that color matching the rest of the trim and the glass shelves, I think it'll keep it very open, and it'll fit perfectly. And only $100 for the materials. The room really doesn't need any more light. It's very bright during the day as you can see.

    Bookmark   December 16, 2012 at 10:55PM
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Irish2

I love your style, KevinMP. Your cat blends in "purr-fectly"! Thanks for sharing your house with us.

    Bookmark   December 17, 2012 at 7:50AM
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ttodd

It's perfection! And Geokid - what a wonderful idea! Maybe even a leaded glass window. I love my stained glass windows but I love my leaded glass windows and doors the best! The prismatic rainbows that the cast are mesmerizing!

    Bookmark   December 17, 2012 at 6:29PM
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palimpsest

I am used to seeing cabinet handles and handicap grab bars, and the occasional vertically mounted handrail, but the cut in hand holds are a good solution.

I have made a number of Realtors kinda nervous falling down stairs like these during showings, but you can't hurt yourself very easily, they are so small you just kinda slide down.

    Bookmark   December 17, 2012 at 7:26PM
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gsciencechick

It is beautiful, and I agree, I'd never want to leave either if I was a guest. Clearly, it also meets the important kitty approval.

    Bookmark   December 17, 2012 at 10:45PM
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KevinMP

I've spent enough money on this damn house... I cannot justify spending countless hours (which for me is money) and money finding a non-hideous, non-obnoxious, correctly-sized window (stained glass, leaded, or otherwise) for that space, and it would always look like an afterthought.

I'm sticking with the cabinets because they match, they're practical, and they won't look like an afterthought once trimmed out. Plus, the room doesn't need any more light, and I'm a fairly basic person, not inclined for the bling factor that would come with stained glass (particularly in a house that wouldn't have had it to begin with). But I totally understand the recommendation!

What do you think so far (they still need to be trimmed out around the sides and with crown I have left over from my kitchen remodel, and I still need to add the glass shelves)?

    Bookmark   December 17, 2012 at 11:27PM
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igloochic

Kevin the room is smashing! I like the cabinets as well...though personally I wouldn't give up all that storage space (this is said by a girl with ten christmas trees so you have to get the context of my love of storage). That said, if you can do without it (gasp) the cabinets are a great solution.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 12:17AM
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KevinMP

At least I have one person supporting my cabinet bookshelves. Keep in mind that I'm not losing all of the storage; I'm just making the access point through my closet ceiling rather than the awkward access through the bedroom (it's awkward because there isn't much clearance between the ceiling and the floor of the loft on the bedroom side.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 12:28AM
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EG3d

Are you going to trim out the area around white cabinets above bed? If not, touch up the red paint under white shelves above bed. any dark color magnifies any mistake or missed area. The room is great!!

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 2:31AM
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KevinMP

The post says it's going to be trimmed out...

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 8:10AM
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Elraes Miller

With understanding that the unit will be trimmed out, I am not sure about the white. But suggesting painting them the same color as the walls doesn't feel right either. They seem to take something away from the beautiful bed. And I know I am of no help here.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 8:32AM
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katrina_ellen

Well its going to draw the eye up there, which is not really where you want to draw it. Honestly I would have just continued the wall. I don't have any suggestions other than maybe a picture behind the bed, or a curtain panel draped across the back hung on the back top piece of the frame of the bed. Maybe it would deflect attention. Maybe doors on the shelf? Its not ideal but its an unusual room with the skylights, so that helps. Sorry, I'm sure others will have more ideas or may like it, just my 2 cents. I love the room by the way.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 8:51AM
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ttodd

Sorry - by the 1st post I didn't realize that you had something planned for that space already. I didn't have chance to read each response so I just picked a few to read.

Your space is still beautiful!

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 9:29AM
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palimpsest

I think I would trim it out like the transom over the door, generally.

These houses take on a kind of organic growth, and the idiosyncrasies that result are just part of the whole charm. The original house would not have had skylights or various other details (including a kitchen or bathroom at all), so the additive quality is natural. If the other millwork is banged up on the edges, I would distress the new trim work a bit too.

I guess what I am trying to say is that in a newer house, I might not solve the issue this way, I would continue the wall up, or whatever I put there would have to align perfectly align with the transom, etc. Here, I think it just generally adds to the charm of the room. The original owners would have put storage where they could get it too. I have seen lots of little cubbies or cabinets tucked at the top of the stairs in such houses.

It's much better than the projecting piece was, in any case.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 9:43AM
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chibimimi

Kevin, just because some of us throw out other possibilities, this doesn't mean we disagree with your decision! We are simply offering different ideas for your consideration. Ultimately, you are the best judge of what works in your space.

The shelves are lovely, functional, and an immense improvement.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 12:00PM
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geokid

You will do what is best for you and your home, as you should. When I wrote my suggestion about stained glass, you had not yet decided upon a solution. I was offering another suggestion. Take it or leave it, but please dont be rude.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 12:38PM
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KevinMP

I wasn't criticizing anybody and apologize if that's how it can across. I was just trying to find an inexpensive but practical solution for the area that would be removable if the next owner ever wanted to reclaim the space for the bedroom (that's why I opted not to drywall it up).

If you really hate the shelves or have some other idea, I'm still all ears.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 12:49PM
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KevinMP

And geokid, stained or leaded glass would be nice, but I think for my tastes and the small space it may be overkill. Plus I know from looking around that there isn't much that'd fit we'll sizewise into that goofy space. That wasn't a criticism of you at all. I have found your and others' comments extremely helpful, but I just can't use/justify them all!

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 1:13PM
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EG3d

Ok, cool. Now what will you put in there facing the bedroom? What will go in there facing the closet?

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 1:21PM
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geokid

Thank you for your response. And I apologize for being so quickly offended.

I completely understand why my suggestion wouldn't work for you. It sounds like you've found something that works.

You truly do have a lovely space.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 3:15PM
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katrina_ellen

While I said I didn't like drawing the eye up there, I agree with pal in that older homes can get away with this sort of thing. I didn't know you wanted to give the next owner the choice of what they wanted to do, so I wondered why you didn't drywall over it. I don't think it detracts from the space, I just didn't understand why you wanted shelves there. I think once its trimmed out it will look good. I like it white to go with the ceiling and trim. Don't take this wrong but I love the quirkiness of older homes, so much charm!

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 3:44PM
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KevinMP

I'll take a picture tonight with the transom in the photo so that you can see what I'm trying to do (successfully or not!). Like pal said, I'm trying to match the transom's trim so that it looks natural. And i bought the glass shelves so that it will pick up the glass from the transom, reflect light, and keep it more airy. You're certainly all right that it'll attract the eye upward but short of drywall (which is more permanent than I want) I don't know what won't.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 5:14PM
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anele_gw

Love that red. . .saving the name! Beautiful room.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 5:53PM
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valinsv

Lovely room. My only thought has more to so with the safety of storing items directly above the bed, esp. with glass shelving. Myself, I'd lean more towards a paneled sliding door similar to the existing doors, so that the storage space could be accessed from either your closet or this room. I admire your creativity in transforming this old home and am sure the end result with look stunning.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 9:20PM
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KevinMP

Thanks everyone! Here's a quick try at making it look presentable from junk from my other shelves downstairs, just to give everyone (and me) an idea. (Repeat: still need moulding, etc.)

With flash:

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 10:27PM
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palimpsest

Some Imari porcelain would look awesome up there.

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 11:00PM
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KevinMP

Pal, in your free time, why don't you just come over here and fix this mess since you have such great ideas and are local! (I'm only half kidding.)

    Bookmark   December 18, 2012 at 11:13PM
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EG3d

Very interesting! You never have any earthquakes there, right?
Love that porcelain, esp the colors with your room.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 4:10AM
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palimpsest

We have had earthquakes actually.

But these houses are masonry construction, and if the earth moved enough to knock things off shelves, the entire fa�ade of the house would probably fall off, anyway. It only has strength in compression, nothing for tension or shear.

When my gable end, which is two layers of brick and nothing else, (some of the brick essentially powder) survived the big tremor (for us) a couple years ago I figured I would also not get knocked out by something falling off the wall. Unless the wall fell down first.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 8:32AM
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katrina_ellen

Looks great so far, it really does make more sense with the over the door window. If it were me I would not put photos up there, only objects that are easily seen, like the books and other objects you have up there. I hope you post after its trimmed out.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 8:49AM
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KevinMP

Some morning pictures:

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 9:38AM
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Annie Deighnaugh

Wow KevinMP, I confess I was concerned about the red, but you have handled it deftly...it looks great, cozy and wonderful. The bookcase idea was fab. Well done!

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 9:42AM
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marcolo

I love what you've done with that room, but I truly hate the shelves. They are too cluttered, mincing and busy to be sitting way up there where you see things from a distance far below. It looks kind of absurd to have books that high up with none below.

I would much rather see one simple panel to block your closet off, and then between one and three large objects with presence. Very simple.

The first thing I thought of when I saw your loft was this object that's over a cupboard at Beauport, the Sleeper-McCann House, home of one of America's first interior designers in Gloucester, MA.

This post was edited by marcolo on Wed, Dec 19, 12 at 12:25

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 11:25AM
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straitlover

I am no designer so take this w/ a big grain of salt. :) What about doing something to the back wall of the cabinet? Paint, wallpaper, fabric (wrapped on some cardboard or plywood)? Once the trim is up, seems like it might be too much white, even w/ all the stuff on the shelves.

I do love that bed. :)

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 2:15PM
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funkyart

I absolutely love the room.. but I have to agree with Marcolo that I think the shelves are too busy for the great space you've created. LOVE the Imari porcelain suggestion and I also like the chinese foo dog (is that what it is?). I think I'd edit way down and keep it visually simple for a stunning over all look.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 4:56PM
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KevinMP

So declutter the shelves, or scrap the shelves?

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 6:08PM
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outsideplaying_gw

Kevin, I love your room too, but having the benefit of seeing all the posts at one time, I too have to agree with Marcolo. The shelf seems out of place high above the bed. If you are putting things there, they should be for simple effect and not tempt one to stand up on the bed to get a closer peek.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 6:11PM
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chickadee2_gw

The room looks terrific. 'Love the red with your furniture and your rug. I have to agree with the others about the shelves though. I would wall that space up in a heartbeat. If I understand this correctly, that loft area is above those boards in your closet. If I were buying your house, and you told me there was storage area above the closet, I would remove those boards and raise the height of the closet. Then I would put in shelving for my purses, out of season sweaters or whatever. I wouldn't need to access that area from another room, nor would I want to. If you're worried about future buyers, store a couple of pictures of the loft and that opening with your deed and live in the house the way you really want it. You're not doing anything to jeopardize its architectural integrity.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 6:16PM
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palimpsest

If the purpose is like a niche for display, I would probably have a larger object or a grouping of similar objects, set on the lowest shelf of each niche--or limit it to two shelves but the objects should be such that they don't call for up close examination, they can be seen as a "collection" from floor level.

If you need the storage for storage, I would use it all for books or put decorative boxes there with things stored in them, not inviting individual examination.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 6:26PM
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marcolo

Since the shelves are already up there, start with a collection of uniform items or a few much larger objects, and see if that works.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 9:03PM
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palimpsest

I am not promising anything about budget:

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 9:24PM
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KevinMP

Just so you know, my first preference was to dry wall up to the ceiling and paint it all. I was just told by my neighbors (who live in similar houses and know what people who buy these houses look for) that I'd be better off keeping the loft for resale. It'll probably be cheaper for me to drywall up the space than it would be to trim out the cabinets (I can still return (or repurpose) the cabinets).

The benefit with doing that is that I'd have immense storage in the closet and it would be easier for a prospective buyer to visualize making that closet a small bathroom. (I'm not too worried about prospective buyers because I have no intention of leaving any time soon.)

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 10:19PM
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palimpsest

What was that particular loft area Used for? In my neighborhood there are still a number of lofted areas in apartments done in the 1960s and 1970s that couldn't be done today because of code issues and aren't particularly user friendly. My 14 foot ceilinged unit was lofted at one end but this left two areas of ceiling height at about 6'7 with an understructured (by today's criteria) floor in between. That was useable. I looked at a unit that had the same thing in a room with 13' ceilings, where the upper was supposed to be a sleeping area --but it was too big to just crawl into and too short to stand up: you kind of duckwalked around it. And it made for a mean little area underneath, too. The current owner of that unit just had stuff stored in cardboard boxes up there.

So, what is the purpose of it? Is it something that people would still really use it as today?

If I were you I would go by Your preference, drywall it up repurpose those shelves facing the other way, and be done with it. The shelves would work, I've seen that variation, but only if you want it or need it to be accessible to the bedroom would I do it that way.

The Imari bottle coolers were something like $8000., so I think the drywall would be cheaper and neighbors be damned :)

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 10:33PM
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KevinMP

I don't really need the shelves in the bedroom. The other major issue is that my access point to the roof is through the skylight in the loft. That can be reached with a ladder through the closet if I bust open the floorboard ceiling in the closet. I'd rather drywall it and but some sound insulation behind it.

I'm certainly not spending hundreds (let alone thousands) on pottery that would be seen only a handful of times per year.

As to what the hell it was used for...who knows. The people who owned this place were bizarre. I could certainly imagine a kid sleeping up there on a twin mattress, but there's only 26" of clearance, so it's tough to get into and out of there.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 10:42PM
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palimpsest

I knew that Imari was not in the cards, it was just the best thing I could find for illustration.

I would button it up on the bedroom side with drywall and go in through the ceiling of the closet. That height and access from inside the closet seems much more logical than preserving it as a slot accessible from the bedroom.

Sometimes neighbors have bad ideas.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 10:47PM
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patty_cakes

I don't understand why you went thru all the trouble to put the cabinet in. Just my 2 cents, but everything seens to be crowded on one wall, or one side if the room. One nightstand is right up against the door jam.

The room and furniture are so wonderfully traditional, adding 3-4 drapery panels on the wall between the windows, and one on the ends, drawing them back would have been an easier fix, w/more room for the nightstands. The bed would have become an obvious, and lovely focal point, instead of just a bed in a room. Sorry about my blunt honesty, but my visualization gets in the way.

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 11:29PM
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KevinMP

Patty cakes, in your effort to be critical (which is fine), your post really doesn't end up making any sense to me. It does appear that your "visualization" has gotten "in the way," but I'm just not sure what you're visualizing.

How would putting drapes on the window wall physically enlarge the room to make "more room for the nightstands" (and I only have one nightstand)? If you looked at the pictures, you'd see that there is a door to the stair landing (limiting wall space on that wall), two windows along a wall that is very low because of the ceiling's pitch (no furniture can go there), another wall on which there is a closet with a door (that cannot accommodate a bed because it's both too narrow and in front of the door to the stair landing), and another corner that is the only set of wall space that can accommodate the bed. If your point is that the bed is too tall for the space, I suppose I understand. If your point is that the nightstand is too close to the door, you're right, but so what? If your point is that you preferred the bed oriented the other way so that there was space on either side of the bed (but little room at the foot of the bed, far too little room to walk around the bed on the sides, and no room at all above the canopy), I suppose I understand (although there's a much easier and less "blunt honesty"-framed way to state that basic point.

Do you want to try again so that I can figure out what you're really trying to say?

    Bookmark   December 19, 2012 at 11:50PM
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Olychick

I'm not sure you need any more opinions here...but I'll venture one anyway. Beautiful home and furnishings, beautiful bed and cozy guest room. But I agree that the shelves (from the pics) look odd in that space. With the canopy, the skylight and the shelves, it just seems like too much going on in the upper part of the room. It doesn't show that gorgeous canopy to its advantage, but detracts from it. I would do as others have suggested and drywall it - or if you really feel you should leave it accessible, perhaps a wall of softly gathered fabric at the head of the bed. I'm thinking like this:

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 12:22AM
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KevinMP

olychick, that's always been a good option, too. I just don't want to drill into the plaster to deal with all of that, and I cannot put it across the whole wall because of the door to the hall way. I know, I know, I have lots of requirements.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 12:29AM
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cooperbailey

I think the shelves are very clever and are attractive! Again, the room is a jewel box, and I would love to stay in it!

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 12:35AM
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Olychick

Command hooks with a rod nestled onto them, lightweight fabric that stops just to the left of the door jamb. :)

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 12:45AM
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marcolo

I think you've made an extremely convincing argument for boarding it up. I've lived in small places and I know you can't spare perfectly good, usable storage space that you could use right now, just to please some possibly nonexistent future buyer looking for a convenient place to fling her children up at the ceiling. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Anyway. Close that up, then it's on to a wee bit of wall art and a touch more fabric. Not much. I'd be idly curious to see what that lace netting canopy you found looks like on the bed, just for s's and g's.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 12:47AM
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KevinMP

Marcolo, I never found one I liked that was the right size. Because of the arch it's difficult to find the right size.

If only I didn't hate painting so much...

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 12:52AM
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patty_cakes

I don't understand why you went thru all the trouble to put the cabinet in. Just my 2 cents, but everything seens to be crowded on one wall, or one side if the room. One nightstand is right up against the door jam.

The room and furniture are so wonderfully traditional, adding 3-4 drapery panels on the wall between the windows, and one on the ends, drawing them back would have been an easier fix, w/more room for the nightstands. The bed would have become an obvious, and lovely focal point, instead of just a bed in a room. Sorry about my blunt honesty, but my visualization gets in the way.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 1:13AM
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patty_cakes

I don't understand why you went thru all the trouble to put the cabinet in. Just my 2 cents, but everything seens to be crowded on one wall, or one side if the room. One nightstand is right up against the door jam.

The room and furniture are so wonderfully traditional, adding 3-4 drapery panels on the wall between the windows, and one on the ends, drawing them back would have been an easier fix, w/more room for the nightstands. The bed would have become an obvious, and lovely focal point, instead of just a bed in a room. Sorry about my blunt honesty, but my visualization gets in the way.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 1:45AM
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EG3d

OK, then close the wall up and paint it red. If you want to access that area from the closet open up the ceiling in that room. Then guest bedroom will be done and perfect.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 3:14AM
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palimpsest

Hating to paint is a very non-compelling reason to jump through a bunch of other hoops and still not end up with it how you wanted.

It was like a client I have who wanted to buy a terribly constructed house she was renting because the owners were going to sell it. Her only reason for wanting to buy it was she hated moving.

Rip off the bandaid and move on.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 7:33AM
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KevinMP

I meant that I hate painting and just when I thought I'd finished, I'm going to have to do more. It's not the reason I didn't do it from the get go.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 7:44AM
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palimpsest

I understood what you meant, but very little painting will have to be redone to finish up. Or get your first guest to paint the patch :)

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 8:20AM
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katrina_ellen

Well its been fun anyways Kevin. I don't think the next person coming in would want it open, what would they do with it with the shelving gone? Maybe hang an old blanket over it? I don't think so! I am no carpenter, but just a thought that you could frame out the opening and hang a single door on hinges that would open upwards, then paint that the room color. It could be a secret passageway.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 8:44AM
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KevinMP

I thought if that, too, but it's too odd a size to find a door that'd work. I'm going drywall.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 9:04AM
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cooperbailey

hmm, I still think it was a clever and fun idea.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 10:02AM
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funkyart

I dont necessarily think it's a bad idea either.. I'd just edit the shelves a bit. I also don't think you need to spend a lot. I could see a variety of things there.. vintage toys or stuffed animals .. sculpture.. I just don't think you want the shelves to be too full or too busy.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 10:24AM
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marcolo

By the way, trying to get around all the visualizations that are in the way, I do think you should think about window drapery. Panels on either side, hung from a rod where the wall and ceiling meet. Or do you hate drilling into plaster even more than painting, not to say I'd blame you?

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 2:51PM
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patty_cakes

Thank you marcelo, I needed that slap in the face to wake me up, but why do *our* visualizations get in *your* way? Visualizations are what help us with our insights and ideas. If *you* don't have it, I'm very sorry. Yes, it sometimes does get in the way, but I'm thankful I have the 'gift'.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 3:38PM
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KevinMP

Patty, your comment made no sense collectively yesterday, and it still doesn't no matter how many times you re-post it. I don't doubt that you had a point, and one I'd be interested and grateful to see in plain English. But drapes just have nothing to do with making the nightstand fit better or magically making furniture for against other walls. Whether I should have drapes is a different issue, and M's point makes sense.

Let's not get all high and mighty about your "gifts." Comments like those are why people wouldn't feel comfortable asking questions on this forum in the first place. I've not experienced it from anyone else. Perhaps they lack your "gifts."

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 5:10PM
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palimpsest

I just want to note that just because it might work out best to drywall it up and be done, that the other ideas did not become automatically bad ideas. It's just that the OP has to chose one. The cabinets would have been okay, too. There is more than one good solution to each problem.
It kind of reminds me of the joke of getting two shirts for your birthday, you wear one the next day, and get asked "So you hate the other shirt?"

I probably missed it way back but what was the purpose of the big curved projection you removed?

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 5:33PM
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patty_cakes

Geez Kev, take a chill pill. I re-read your post so I won't go into an explanation re:my 'visualization'.

My 'gift' is something i've given to myself, no explanation needed on that either. As to whether or not it would prevent someone from posting, that's your *opinion* not a fact.

Why didn't you just use a wood, sleighbed-style daybed? You could have created a beautiful fabric canopy w/o all the aggravation you seem to be going thru, not to mention the extra work you've made for yourself. Sorry Kevin, just keeping it real.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 6:08PM
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KevinMP

I just don't understand when someone asks a question about what to do with furniture the person already has and won't be getting rid of, someone sitting on her couch comes in a says "why did you buy that?" "Buy this". If I wanted your advice on what I should replace my furniture with, I would've asked it. I shouldn't have to explain to you that your comments come across as rude. I'm not paying you for advice, and I didn't ask for your opinion on the topic you provided your opinion on. Your question really seems to me to be, "why don't you do what I would've done even though you've already done it because I don't like what you've done." Who goes through the effort to be so obnoxious and then tells the person they've insulted to take a chill pill? I don't feel as though I've wasted any time at all (and its mine to waste, in any event); I have found nearly everyone's comments to be helpful. None managed to be delivered with your gift of disdain, fortunately.

    Bookmark   December 20, 2012 at 6:45PM
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