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Trail, I think the house is lovely. I always enjoy seeing small homes, particularly those that are designed with a great deal of thought and care. Sarah Susanka's books are among my favorites.
Perhaps I shouldn't even say this - and maybe it's just all the in the way that the writing hit me today - but I found the description to be a bit ... well, pretentious. Maybe I should read deeper into the blog and see if I get a better feel.
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I just read some more of her writing, and must stand by my original feeling. Glad you weren't insulted that I was so honest ... Hers is just not a way of expression that I find appealing -- ("My husband and I speak of everything together. We eat and breathe each other's words." -- Well, alrighty then! ;-)) That said, I love the little house. I just viewed the slideshow on the blog, and every little thing about the house seems perfect.
Maybe even more perfect just for one. I can see living in a place like that all alone. (Well, maybe I'd have to have a cat.) I love my husband, but I don't eat and breathe his words, and I do love my solitude, so having a place to escape by myself is a vital part of living as a couple in my world.
The house is great. I think that woman's ego needs a house the size of Candy Spelling's though. I'm a pessimist but I believe that people who are truly the most contemplative don't become speakers, have a blog or need "followers". Her husband is very talented. Her schtick I don't buy.
How does she blog without electricity?
I'd have a nervous breakdown if I had to live in such close proximity to anyone. lol
Beautiful little house, the rest, not so much. What the he** is a private confident? And "people of the world who come to him for the special kind of conversation " ??? Really? Gag me. I love my DH but if I had to sit knee to knee with him having meaningful conversations every night I'd lose my flippin' mind. As a guest cottage, personal retreat, artist/writer studio - lovely.
It reminds me of the Old Presque Isle Lighthouse on Lake Huron in Michigan which I love. (The Front Range, not the newer one.) Can't find any pictures of the interior -- I'll have to go back and take some. It has a loft. It now houses a gift shop but you can still get the feel of it.
Most of the lighthouse keepers got larger dwellings, eventually.
There's a lot of pretentiousness in the world and I don't find it any worse when it's in a small package than when it's in a large package. It's pretty hard to be simple in this country today, yet you can always find someone simpler, as well as someone more grand.
The art of conversation is fine, indeed, and I wonder whether my husband and I could ever develop it to a fine and satisfying subtle level (where we talked to each other like Jane Austen's characters, all layered and nuanced) even if we lived in a sweet house like this. Maybe if we'd been working on it for 25 years..... It's a nice fantasy... books, minds, God.
I've been reading the blog on and off this afternoon ; I believe I read that she has an office to go to and write , away from the small house.
The books are all luxuriously bound, from what I see ; and about the books, she said
"that it was not until I saw them all together, illuminated by the fire at Innermost House, that I realized nearly every one was first written by firelight."
I do not understand that .
All the elements of the house are soothing and nice to look at, inviting.
Although I can't wrap my head around living with another being in such a small space.
thanks trail for sharing this, it's indeed fascinating.
Enjoyed looking at the pics of that small house - thanks for posting trailrunner! I find tiny houses interesting but couldn't live in one permanently.
Also read the innermosthouse site and suspect there are a few interesting stories we are not told. Their lifestyle certainly is not for most of us and how they came to it would be illuminating. It would be fascinating to hear either of these people speak.
The house is great.
The lady, not so much.
Sounds like they no longer live in that house. "For seven years my husband and I lived in...." Which leads me to believe that the photos represent an idealized version of what life was really like there. It's cute but not real.
"My husband is a private confidant and friend to people in public positions. Men come to him for the special kind of conversation he makes possible. Innermost House was built for us on the land of such a partner and friend."
DLM caught what puzzled me as well. What exactly does her husband do as a confidant to public figures? And why does a 'partner and friend' give them land to build a house? What exactly is this special kind of conversation he makes possible?
Clearly I have a petty and salacious mind because it rang a warning bell in my mind when I read it, of something that seems a bit shady. Actually tried to google the husband's name but all that comes up is stuff related to her blog and the house. Odd.
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Thanks for posting trailrunner, the house is wonderful. Lots of inspiration for my 'small' cottage (although at about 1400 square feet it will seem like a McMansion compared to this place I'm afraid). I'd like to do dark gray or black board and batten siding.
Could it be ashes in the fireplace? I love some of the pictures on the blog, particularly the still life photo, with the sink, the radishes, carrots - it is just lovely and I think really represents the mood of the cabin as a whole.
I'm not that into what she is selling either, but she isn't *that* terrible. I'm all for promoting meaningful conversation. Although when I have guests over meaningful conversation is typically lost by the third bottle of wine or mojito! Oh well, we try.
Pretty little house but I get cabin fever just from looking at it, and decidedly queasy from reading the text! This from someone who grew up in a remote location without electricity, hot water, indoor bathroom etc. and loved it!
Sorry, I could not do this. I've lived in small spaces for most of my adult life, but this is way too small.
One idea that resonates with me is the concept of living in one space within a home. I think someone here said recently that we all basically do that; when I started noting how we live in our home the truth of it was immediately clear. We spend most of our time in our living room--the dining area is right there and except for kitchen duty and sleeping it's where we are almost always.
So the images of that cozy sitting/reading/conversation area are powerful. Regardless of size that is something that I think is a wonderful image and goal to strive toward in any home: creating that 'center' in which those who live can feel utterly comfortable and protected.
But I still wonder just what the heck kind of services the husband is providing :). Trail, the kind of sensitive personal issues the powerful might need to confide seemingly would be better served by seeing a licensed professional who is bound by legal and ethical considerations...not a 'partner and confidant'. As we've seen all too often and just recently those kinds of special relationships can end up very, very badly in a very, very public way when things go wrong!
Interesting to surmise about such private and unusual people, isn't it! I doubt there is nothing "shady" about them but I expect their livelihood depends on their ability to remain private.
My theory is that he is a qualified psychotherapist to the very wealthy and powerful. I find it interesting that there is no google response to his name. That is difficult in this day and age. Even little ol' me gets a google response! One has to wonder how he finds his clients or how they find him. My theory about her is that she is a former nun. He may also have a religious background, perhaps in the priesthood.
OK, I'm now off to write my next novel! LOL
You are all much more gracious than I.
I surmised that they were growing psychedelic 'shrooms in the woods, which is the true impetus for all those scintillating fireside chats.
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Beautiful!!! A few things though:
Where's the TV? Sorry, couldn't resist.
How do they entertain with only two chairs & no room for anything else? She said they invite people over. I call dibs on a chair! lol
I found this sentence a bit contradictory: "It is the latest of many very small houses my husband and I have occupied over twenty-five years, all for the same reason�to make possible a simple life of reflection and conversation."
I guess all they talk about is building the next house? I'd be exhausted!
Again, it's beautiful and I could handle that in my backyard. I think my dh would love one and I could see him sleeping in it. lol
I would have to post a "snark alert" for the comments I would make.
The photographs are beautiful - some put me in mind of Vermeer - and everything so pristine and polished.
After reading through the entries in "Selected Writings," I found myself wondering how exactly you turn four ideas and utter self involvement into a high virtue.
I would be bored to the point of homicide in a week.
"The house is great. I think that woman's ego needs a house the size of Candy Spelling's though. I'm a pessimist but I believe that people who are truly the most contemplative don't become speakers, have a blog or need "followers". Her husband is very talented. Her schtick I don't buy."
Pal--you took the words right out of my mouth.
That little house gave me food for thought last night. I read some of her writing and was thinking I should be holding onto my wallet while at the same time I was yearning for simplicity and peace she speaks of.
I did a quick search and looks like he is/was a professor at a Michigan University? My guess is he counsels (consoles?) people on end of life issues.
It's an absolutely gorgeous little house, and I do very much love to see little houses that don't look like dorm rooms, the way so many of them do, but so many things make me wonder. They love their books so much that they cover them with unmarked matching paper covers, for instance? Hmmm. And have you ever tried really reading by candle light?
Here's another pleasant small house (but definitely not so romantic), and I have to say I'd rather the meet the woman who lives in this one:
Here is a link that might be useful: little house in little rock
Writersblock ... it's perfect. Perfect!
Writersblock, great house! Please keep the links to these perfect little houses going, they are great inspiration.
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Would someone put in a link to clue me in on what you all and Diana are talking about? I read her Nov. 2nd posting and I have NO CLUE what the heck she's talking about.
Is she dying? She's alluding to losing her Innermost House. The "Conversation." WTH?
Are they couseling people on giving up Christianity and becoming Athiests? lol.
How is Michael important? Diana just rambles and doesn't get to any point.
What am I missing? My curiosity is really up now.
"I guess all they talk about is building the next house? I'd be exhausted!"
Awesome, oakley! You truly made me LOL.
The Little House in Little Rock is right around the corner from me! I love it. And I wouldn't be lying if I said that that is what I thought the house next door would look like (I am bitter today about the house next door...I could use a private confidant or whatever)
"How is Michael important?"
Does Michael even exist? After spending way too much time googling this story I finally found a tiny supposed picture of him (gray beard) with Diana. It was on Kent Griswold's tinyhouseblog. Griswold writes about visiting them and being overcome with such a perfect experience. There were no real details other than the constant reiteration of the perfection of it all.
There were also a lot more pictures than are contained in the link above. The house is in a heavy forest, and its exterior is surrounded by a yard that consists of perfectly placed, raked gravel that has been perfectly curved along the edges of the trees. There is not one single leaf on the gravel. How do you live in a forest and have no leaves on the ground? The effect is very Zen.
Back to Michael. We can't find any example of his words or writing. Does he exist as a functioning person?
What dlm said.
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I googled him yesterday and he is a professor of law in ? Michigan, I believe. That's why they can live in that tiny house...he's never there. There were lots and lots of pics of him; I wasn't checking for some with her and him together, but her only claim to fame seems to be her adoration of him.
Lucky gal--- if their livelihood depends upon privacy, why does she blog and post photos of where they live?
Sorry, I found the whole thing rather unappealing. Why would anyone voluntarily live in an area of twelve square feet? Being mindful of one's carbon footprint, eschewing an excess of possessions to simplify one's life, these things I can understand. Her response to these issues, however, is irrational. It's like an overweight person who, instead of going on a sensible diet and losing the excess, makes herself anorexic. Pretentious doesn't even scratch the surface, IMO.
Kswl, I have no clue and the more I google and *seem* to learn, the more confusing this story is.
IMO the tiny house is staged, there is no way 2 people live in that house full time. I think it's a metaphor for what they are selling. And I know that sounds cynical but when people are all over the net, even on facebook, there is a product somewhere.
Olychick, the law prof spells his name differently - Michael Anthony Lawrence vs. Michael Anthony Lorence.
However, since doing this little bit of research I found the blog linked below and am beginning to see how I can apply "the Innermost principle" to myself. I think by "interviewing my Innermost self" I might more easily know how to decorate my house, choose clothing, and generally make better choices for my life. It's something I've personally been doing (or attempting to do) for awhile altho have never seen it in quite this way.
My Innermost house will never be a tiny 144 sq.ft. zen abode but thinking about this concept has been a valuable learning experience.
Here is a link that might be useful: the Innermost principle
It doesn't sound cynical at all, luckygal--- I think you are right. Cherchez l'argent!
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Never mind, trailrunner. The house is still charming.
And I was also wrong. I rechecked Griswold's blog and the picture is of Diana and Griswold, not Michael.
Trailrunner - don't worry; this has been a most interesting thread! I have had this house on my mind since you first posted; it has posed some provocative questions about simplicity, mindfulness, and identity.
Thanks for the clarification...not sure why google hit on a different spelling, but I should have noticed that. Ah, maybe Michael owns google or has been conversing with the owner so he has influence to have his info pulled. Anyone try bing?
The house is lovely. I was immediately drawn to the warm cozy feel of the space. The plaster walls and the wood make an incredibly welcoming feel even without fabric...something I usually rely on for warmth.
Living there as a single would be one thing, but as a couple? Not for long....one of us would wind up killing the other for sure.
I agree with the others though about this place being staged. First of all, if a couple lives there and then has someone over for private and deep conversation, where does the other person go? Does someone get banished to the toilet or the front porch? Second, if you are heating water in the fireplace to bathe in, how the heck do you get the pot past those chairs? Third, do you wear any clothing in this house? If so, where do you put them? Fourth, if you are living in a space and living with your books, they don't all come so beautifully bound and arranged like encyclopedias. At 3x5, barely a phone booth, what can one do in the study besides stand there...whatever work surface is available would seem to be taken up by displayed dictionaries.
Would someone tell me what is in the basket hanging in what I assume is the potty? It looks like a basket full of hawks feathers???? Do they not use t. paper???
If this is on the property of a friend, I suspect they are in the friends house quite often making use of modern conveniences and use this place like camping out in a solid tent...with running water. That at least makes sense to me.
Oddness continues-see the 'about' information below, from the Inntermost blog. Evidently they aren't living in that tiny house anymore! Stranger and stranger:
"I am Diana Lorence of Innermost House. For seven years my husband and I lived in an unelectrified, twelve-foot-square house hidden in the woods, in a world lit only by fire. Our life in the woods answered my deepest need for something the world has left behind. But the house was hidden in a way I could not openly share. Now we have gone to seek a new Innermost House where we may offer a wider hospitality. This journal is a record of home-leaving and home-seeking. It is a sojourner's retreat for conversation and all things concerning Innermost House and the Innermost Life wherever is lived, in the Woods or in the World."
I would just like to see *one* tiny house where you could make the bed without smashing your head on overhead beams, and didn't have to bend double while doing so.
It's a beautiful house. I love the bookshelves. But even as a single person, I'd need a tiny bit more room to live there full-time. As a retreat, it would be fine.
I'd need to keep a quart of Valium in the bookcase to be calm enough to move serenely and cleanly around in that house.
trail - don't feel bad! It is truly a beautiful and inspiring (very, very) small house. Whether we could live in it or not is irrelevant I think, as there is so much to take away from seeing it. Thank you again for sharing.
What sochi said. In ways, this reminds me of movie reviews; a movie gets dissected to such a degree from every angle that the reader decides never to watch such movie yet misses many wonderful ones because they are flawed.
A beautiful little jewel of a house.
But Oakly, so Funny!!
C., this is a GREAT topic! It appears that most of us do like the little house, it's just the author who seems a bit..okay..weird. lol
I don't see how they can take themselves off Google, though. The more hits, the further up the page one gets. Interesting.
Annie was spot on about the staging, etc. And putting large dictionaries out in much needed space?
I don't believe for a MOMENT that they lived there 24/7. Nope. There's absolutely no sign of life. I think they have a larger house somewhere and maybe go to the little one in their free time, or on weekends.
I'm not buying it.
Another cute *really* tiny house, this one with a sleeping loft and bathroom (not shown, but it would be tiny wetroom), 130sf. The owner really does live in this one.
Here is a link that might be useful: Britanny's Fencl
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Didn't click over yet, but wanted to post about missing google images.
I'm guessing the blog owner saw lots of hits on her blog from here. Will show up in statistics and decided to remove some pics for privacy purposes. Since google searches what is out on the Web it will only show what is available somewhere online, unless they happen to have a cached copy.
The house is really beautiful. Call me materialistic, I need electricity & a shower. Other than the those 2 items I think the house is great.
Oops, just found the blog for the last tiny house I posted and she's now using it as a B&B, not living there anymore. So for those who are wondering if you could stand to live in such close quarters, I guess that would be a chance to find out.
I have read some of her posts and still don't know what she is trying to say. Very confusing. I found one post of hers that say her husband is a tailor.
Here is a link that might be useful: Link
All: This is the funniest thread I've read in a while. Thanks! I had such a good time reading your comments......now I'd better mosey on and find information on narrow fridges, which is what I'm supposed to be doing.....I just bought a fixer-upper, adorable-but-badly-in-need-of-work, brick duplex as rental property, and I have a teeny weeny space for refrigerators. Wish me luck!
Thanks for sharing! While I find the writing on the blog rather off-putting, the pictures are neat and I also found myself redecorating.
The name "Innermost House" leads me to believe they're giving a nod to Henry Beston's "The Outermost House"href> which chronicles a year he spent living in a tiny cottage on what is now Coast Guard Beach on Cape Cod.
Here is a link that might be useful: The Outermost House
Maybe they discuss claustrophobia.
What KSWL said.
I must be really tired right now because I've found this thread absolutely hysterical! I just read the link about her husband being a tailor, but then talks about her husband's old clothes being made by his tailors. Maybe he's just the head tailor. And did you know she and Michael have identical outfits?
Maybe this has already been posted, but the youtube video gives a true feel of the house. Like others, I don't see how 2 people could 'live' in that house, and apparently from the latest update, they couldn't.
Here is a link that might be useful: little house
I think it's beautiful, too.
And instructive, despite my snarky remarks.
I kept thinking, if that's all I had, even I could keep it that spotless!
I wonder what they clean and polish with, and where they keep it?
Wow, such bogusness in that video. She blogs but had to look up luddite? If she'd really read any of those 19th century authors whose books she displays so proudly, she'd know all about the Luddite Rebellion. And I'd love to know how you blog from a calligraphy desk.
Exactly, writersblock, there is something quintessentially phony about her. If she wasn't familiar with the term Luddite she is an absolute fraud. You can tell she doesn't read much because her books are all for show.
I'd like to see the bathroom, or do they use chamber pots?
Kswl, in the video they show what appears to be a normal toilet and also what look like shower handles on the wall--only there are also coats hanging there, so who knows?
I'm also kind of kerflummoxed about the open fire cooking. Everyone had stoves a hundred and fifty years ago because they were so much more fuel-efficient (open range/open fire cooking was reserved for meat cooking in the homes of the very wealthy), besides making it easy to heat water and bake. (Although the fireplace is lovely, despite my concerns about having a charcoal grill inside for cooking/water heating.)
It's possible they have running water--I lived in a *very* remote place a long time ago and we had running water if someone pumped it up the hill into the cistern so that it could run down again. I suspect she doesn't do the pumping, though.
I clicked on that video link and didn't see a toilet. But I did not watch the last 20 seconds, so I guess I missed it. Agree that Diana doesn't look like she pumps much water :-)
No question that this tiny house is simply and beautifully designed and constructed. However their lifestyle is not one I want to copy. For me there must be a balance between conspicuous consumption and extreme simplicity.
There are so many questions I'd like answers to. In one post she talks about putting eggs and sweet potatoes in the pot overnight to cook for breakfast. Wouldn't that make either extremely overcooked eggs or undercooked sweet potatoes? I admit that cooking style would make meal-making so much simpler altho I know I'd be bored with eating veggies cooked that way every day. Also in this last video she shows the bathroom which seems to have 2 (shower?) faucets on the wall. I know in one post she said they took sponge baths using water heated over the fire. Curious.
I have the feeling there is much that is deliberately hidden in this story. Why is she away on weekends and not able to answer blog questions? Where do they go? Probably don't live without electricity or running water then.
Apparently she blogs from her small rented office space.
The Luddite thing got me also. Anyone that intelligent and who has had so many 'conversations' must have heard the term. Altho perhaps their 'conversations' are on more esoteric subjects. Love to be a fly on the wall. My curiosity knows no bounds - I must rein it in! LOL
Maybe they play at living like this on some days, and live more normally on others (with trips to a laundromat or bakery). I don't understand, if they aren't raising their own food then what do they DO all day? Sit in the chairs and look at eachother? Even the books wouldn't last long if they aren't working the land. But if they are growing crops then they must have space for implements and food storage (rakes, hoes, canned or dried goods).
I agree that something doesn't add up or isn't being fully shared. Which is their prerogative, if they are honest with themselves and their "followers".
they do have running water in the kitchen, I saw her prepare her pot of vegetables and add water to it from a tap.
>they do have running water in the kitchen, I saw her prepare her pot of vegetables and add water to it from a tap.
Yes, but both the blog and the video say they don't, which is why I'm guessing some kind of cistern. Yet another of the inconsistencies. She sure has a lot of water pressure for a cistern, though.
Something definitely fishy here...and clearly not what they're eating. Ok, if you're not growing vegetables then you have to be buying them from somewhere and you have to have some way of getting there...like a car. I dont see a horse or a barn or even a moped to get around, and its not like there is a grocery store nearby in the N Cal mtns....
I want to know what Pal knows that we don't. Up thread: "Her husband is very talented."
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Trail, you did find some interesting links. One explained that they were featured in House Beautiful. Hence the staged look and photography. I agree with most that they do not actually live there on a regular basis. It has to be a place where they counsel people. One of your links showed their visiting a Zen/Buddist program and spoke of the excitement of meeting all. Perhaps Richard Gere stays the night there.
To the OP: how does a house send a "deep message"? What "deep message" do you get from it? The message I get from the house is this: "I'm tiny, I'm in the woods, and those who resided within me looked for too much meaning in a tiny house in the woods." Even the name is pretentious.
I knew Mike Lorence before he preferred using his full name. He didn't come from wealth, but has a Middlewestern (Iowa) middle-class background nor was there anything "mysterious" about him. "Michael Anthony Lorence" had a very private nature, but his wheels were always turning. He was a nice, likable and charming guy and very good looking (dark hair, blue eyes, memorable body) with lofty ambitions and creative aspirations who wanted to write and "become one with nature" as cheaply as possible. I, too, am mystified as to why there aren't any photos of him to be found either at his wife's blog or by doing various searches, but I do remember that he was never comfortable being photographed and this quirk may have become more pronounced with time and age; I can't say with certainty.
While I admire the workmanship and aesthetics of their tiny house and would have enjoyed visiting, I wouldn't want to live there. Perhaps they no longer reside there because they realized that there's only so much knee-to-knee conversation, contemplation, reading and reflecting one can do in a small candlelit room before the urge to run screaming from the place overtakes one. There's also such a thing as too much closeness. And sponge baths? I can't even imagine living anywhere, tiny house or not, without a shower or tub! (I hope they frequently changed the stool they utilized for sponge bathing or at least gave it a good over-cleaning after each use.)
"Michael Anthony's" wife, Diana, is probably a nice enough person, and she's obviously intelligent and creative in her own right, but she does have a pretentious streak and some of her writing sounds too New Age-ish (even downright flaky) for my tastes, like someone who's trying too hard to give depth and meaning to everything. Sometimes, a twig is just a twig. Too often her words are just so much psychobabble. My impression is that there's more there than meets the eye, and not all is as it seems. And some of their "followers" sound like people who are looking for a messiah, the same type of minds that would eagerly and willingly join a cult. I say to these followers: It's just a tiny, unique house in the woods, people, and neither "Michael Anthony" nor Diana are messiah material. It's a lifestyle choice, and I'm sure, like every couple, they've had their issues. (Also, messiahs don't take sponge baths.) Don't attach so much importance to the wrong things or look for life's answers from a couple simply because they choose to live differently and sparsely. Other than being more well-read than the average person (then again, who wouldn't be well-versed if one had very few if any responsibilities and plenty of spare time for reading?) "Michael Anthony" and Diana really aren't that different from the rest of us mortals. Some people always seem to need someone to follow, and that's just sad.
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This just keeps getting better. My thanks to CucumberSandwich for signing up today and posting so that this thread could be resurrected - especially since somehow I missed it the first time around. What an enjoyable 30 minutes this has provided and it serves to remind me of so many posters who no longer frequent this site.
At the moment the words to Brad Paisley's song 'Online' is playing in my head! It's a sweet house, but the inhabitants, or maybe just the wife, is dillusionable.
Dilusionable is 'urban dictionary' usage, and not my intent. Delusional is the 'proper' usage, I think. ;)
I've seen that house before and thought it was really cute. A lot of ideas that could be incorporated into a larger home.
When I saw it the first time I thought it was more a retreat than a permanent home, but I could have it confused with another small home too.
But if they did have this as their full time home, I can see where they would eat and breathe each other's words. When you sit knee to knee with another person, you wouldn't have much choice, especially if they had garlic for lunch. ;)
Well, this is wonderfully mysterious and strange. It seems the man is a tailor but also holds mysterious conversations. Maybe they're magical suits? Superpower suits? Fun way to spend a half hour, I agree. If you look through the link, you'll see images of the tiny house. And CumcumberSandwich, reveal more! I love the idea of a serial novel narrative through a decorating thread.
Here is a link that might be useful: Michael Anthony Lorence
"I knew Mike Lorence before he preferred using his full name. He didn't come from wealth, but has a Middlewestern (Iowa) middle-class background nor was there anything "mysterious" about him."
WHERE in Iowa?? I don't recall running into him and I'm sure I would remember anyone who appeared to be a crack pot. Lady Diana has her Martha Stewart accent nearly perfected.
I hope neither of them sleep walk. I couldn't even share that space with myself without having a breakdown. So many things are just wrong with those people/that house. Why are they punishing themselves. No running water? Cooking over a fire? Hello!! Next small house should be a cave dug into the side of a hill and a couple of big leaves for clothes. I want to know where they take a bath. Front porch? I've lived without electricity and running water but not for long.
I found lots of hits for him on google. From his web site.
The truth is missing in a man's life today. It was missing to me, and I sought it
everywhere in everything��'in people, in places, in objects and ideas. Now it is
my privilege to serve as a discreet designer, furnisher and guide to men who find
themselves seeking, as I sought, a way to individual completeness, and a world
where experience, knowledge, wisdom and maturity are the measure of the man.
Here is a link that might be useful: Michael Lorence
Well, I agree that this is just curiouser and curiouser. My appetite is whetted more by CucumberSandwich, who seems to lend some credibility to these people by stating that he/she actually knows them.
I was born and raised in Iowa, too, and I'm searching for a memory that I perhaps ran across such a person as Michael. Hey, it's possible!
This also brings to mind a group of people who live and teach near Fairfield, Iowa, which is the home of the Maharishi University of Management. Fairfield is not that far from where I live now, and conversations I've heard about that University are sometimes conducted in hushed and somber tones, as if we shouldn't speak of it aloud. Sometimes us Midwesterners are very cautious of those who appear to be different from us. Maharishis in Iowa, of all places, you say? Yes, there are.
I have a friend (who was very strange in her own right - extremely wealthy but lived in a straw bale house without running water) who recently divorced and moved to the Fairfield area. She was EXTREMELY intelligent, well-read and well-traveled. She always seemed to be reaching for something more, some stimulation that was over my head, so to speak.
Is Michael a (former) resident of Fairfield? A product of the University? One of its promoters? Inquiring minds want to know . ... . .
curiouser and curiouser
Does she lecture? Does he? Is he a tailor? Making 52 suits a year? Counseling world leaders? His profession is conversationalist? There was a woman at work who never shut up. Little did I know........nor did she, apparently.
Here is a link that might be useful: Diana
My KSWL BS-o-meter is in the red zone.
I have just read this thread with interest (saying mildly)
and my response is..........what everyone said above!
I think they are just two intelligent very strange people and like kswl........I have a bs-o-meter and it woke up the dog and kitty cat.
Have enjoyed the posts.
Ah, yes. Fairfield. that would explain it. Is there a membership there or a list of people who've taught classes? anything?
How old is this guy? I found one at ancestry.com but he was born abt. 1927 in Penn. 1940 Penn. census lists John, Eva both 48. then Joseph, Andy, John, George, Mary, Michael, and Anna.
Thanks to those who posted more links which attempt to explain this couple.
"Otherworldly", "deeper dimension of existence", "conversation closer to a 'pure' university life", " we individually build fifty-two bespoken suits of clothes and jackets a year, suiting the man in the true style", "a tailor out of time". The more I read the more confused I feel.
Is 'tailor' a metaphor for what Michael does? Is it similar to calling Jesus a "fisher of men"? Not that I am equating the 2 personalities. My natural inclination to cautious paranoia prevents me from placing Michael on such a pedestal. Have always avoided accepting exclusively any guru in my life.
Both Michael and Diana seem to be very charismatic people. However, as one who lives very much in the real world I find their lifestyle difficult to comprehend. Perhaps I might understand if I went to live in the forest in a tiny house to meditate for years. Sounds interesting, but really how would that work? So many things most of us face daily in real life that are not addressed on any of the sites.
My experience with charismatic, otherworldly people has taught me two things:
1. Make sure you still have your watch and jewelry before they exit stage right, and
2. If you listen very carefully you can hear a small child's voice saying, "But he's not wearing any clothes......"
You're correct, littlebug5, Fairfield it is. And before dropping out -- Michael considered "just living life the most important education" -- he was a product of the University there. As far as his birthdate, it's Sept. 27, 1956. In my view, he was someone who was perpetually unsettled and at odds with himself, especially at that time. We were lovers before his marriage (I must admit to being rather shallow at that young age because I enjoyed and was more impressed by his lithe, toned, Adonis-like body than his unusual mind) and eventually we went our separate ways. I wanted to get my Masters and he wanted to live by the sea and write poetry all day. In other words, I was too rooted in the real world for his tastes, and he couldn't understand why I didn't want the same things. We remained friends, as much as former lovers can remain friends, and periodically corresponded for several years after parting company. Sometimes, at his request, I sent money; not a fortune, but enough for certain essentials. Mike was the type of person it was difficult to refuse, and from what I've read it sounds like he still is. He also had a talent for seeking out those with wealth -- money's much more important to him than those who admire and follow his "simplistic, bare-essentials lifestyle" will ever know. Eventually I lost track of him because he moved so often -- and apparently still does. It sounds like Michael is still a person who's continually re-inventing himself and more than likely always will.
During the years he and his wife resided at "Innermost House" ("Little House in the Woods" would have been less pretentious; I'm inclined to think his wife named it) I had to fight the urge to contact Mike because I very much wanted to visit him and see their tiny house, but because of our history, albeit long ago, I finally concluded that it might be uncomfortable for him and his wife. From what I had read, Diana sounded brittle and off-center to me, so I resisted getting in touch with him again. Maybe I should have contacted him when I had the chance because now they've moved on to some unknown "college town in the East to seek out more conversation." (translation?) I'd like to get in touch with Michael now for no other reason than to see if he retained his good looks with time and age. Shallow again, I know, but nobody can have "deep conversations" with another every waking moment without getting tired and annoyed. One occasionally needs visual stimulation as well, and Michael was very good at providing it...
P.S. To those following this thread: please forgive my silly username, but I had a craving for a cucumber sandwich when I first signed up and posted a comment here, a craving I've since satisfied, so there you go!
This post was edited by CucumberSandwich on Wed, Jan 8, 14 at 13:50
You can find pictures of Lorence conversing in his little house...from his web site.
I recalled this thread and was surprised to see it pop up again, so I went back to look at the house, and there is something very elegant and inviting and attractive in the simplicity of the design and atmosphere it creates. There are plenty of tiny houses out there, but I've not seen any that provide this kind of warmth and coziness.
Re running water, I believe in the video Diana says no "hot" running water...she does have and use the tap in the kitchen sink.
They may be off the main stream for sure, but sometimes that's what it takes to create this level of uniqueness. I certainly wouldn't want to live there, but for maybe an overnight, sure.
Here's Steinmetz's cabin...he was an electrical engineering genius who worked with Edison and created much of how the A/C electrical grid still works today. He too was happy with a minimalist lifestyle.
Here is a link that might be useful: A look inside
Self-appointed gurus and cult leaders have also been described as "charismatic," Annie, and there's a difference between leading a minimalist lifestyle and retreating from the world (think Unibomber). No one has disputed the "uniqueness" of their house, but Diana Lorence -- and possibly Mike -- is another matter. Don't confuse "uniqueness" with strangeness. Regardless of the facade they present, there's something not quite right there; I'm sure of it.
And what Diana Lorence has written at her blog is that they boiled water in their fireplace for hot water. You also mention their tiny house's "coziness and warmth." In what sense? Isn't stating that a tiny house is cozy being redundant? And I don't think Diana would agree with you about its "warmth" since she's also stated that "in winter it can get down to 40 degrees in the house and the only warmth that can be felt is if we're right next to the fireplace." What fun! You mean their love and "uniqueness" didn't keep them warm on such chilly days and evenings?
You mention Mike (oops, Michael) having a website, but you don't state its address. I have done a number of searches trying to discover if he has a website/blog and couldn't find anything, so where is it, please?
And how kind you were in your word usage when you wrote that Michael and Diana "may be off the mainstream." (I suppose that's one way of putting it.) When Mike wrote to me ages ago asking me to live with him at a nudist colony near Big Sur, instead of refusing him I guess I should have said to myself, "oh that wacky Mike! He's so 'off the mainstream,' so why not?!" I'm no prude, but I prefer to be nude with those I at least know. A large group of naked strangers doesn't fill me with joy and uniqueness, so I must not be "off the mainstream" enough.
It's a tiny house, Annie; keep it in perspective. They no longer reside at their tiny house, either (and Diana Lorence has been secretive and cryptic as to why they moved) so evidently it wasn't unique enough for them. My guess would be that it was either a matter of finances or Mike felt the need -- his "compulsion" he always called it -- to move on once again. He never was able to settle in one place for long no matter how unique and ideal the dwelling. And if, according to Diana, they've moved "over twenty times" since they've been married, it doesn't sound like he'll ever take root, tiny house or not.
This post was edited by CucumberSandwich on Wed, Jan 8, 14 at 11:50
He may have left Diana and gone into Saynyasa. I think they are a pair of phonies craving attention and her blog is a means of monetary gain and that is, perhaps, all they have since there is most likely a paucity of men who want to be tailored in Michael's not-so-unique way.
I couldn't finish the video because of my gagging. I'm sorry I didn't read all the posts here, but where the hell do they do the laundry?
I live in No. California. There are a lot of preciously pretentious people in these parts. OMG, so annoying.
Edited: BTW, I think the house is as cute as a button. A retreat, a studio, workshop, etc.
This post was edited by linelle on Wed, Jan 8, 14 at 12:22
Yes, there is definitely something off here, cucumber, including the fact that my post was not about you. I don't know and don't really care what your history is with this person. I was posting about the house.
I did post the link to the website...you will find it if you click on it.
When I was talking about warmth, I was not talking about physical temperature but a feeling one gets from the finishes, materials and decor. When I posted about coziness, it is not just because it is small. After all, a homeless person's cardboard box is small, but I wouldn't call it warm or cozy.
My point was simply that it is a unique small space that has more elegance than most. There are many tiny homes out there, but most with less ambiance. The lifestyle is unusual for us today, but hardly for people of 150 years ago. And that sometimes unique people offer different and interesting perspectives or unusual creations that are strange to their contemporaries, but add value to in ways that may not be immediately apparent. Sometimes, their strange ways are just simply that, strange, but that's a far cry from cult status.
linelle- Somewhere, maybe on one of the related web sites she says she washes their underwear in the sink and they brush their other clothes of which they don't have many. I think she said most of their clothing was wool, summer and winter. I know what I smell like after a couple of winter days in previously worn clothes and no shower. Summer.........? His clothes were black and I think white, hers brown and white.
I expect someday to watch their story on 20/20 or Dateline. Unique isn't the first word that comes to my mind.
lov_mkitchen, thanks for the update. Unique indeed. Her dress reminded me a bit of Whistler's Mother. It gets hot in N. Calif. in the summer. I like it hot, but can't remember ever being able to wear wool in the summertime here.
CucumberSandwich - pardon my questioning - but I'm curious as to how you happened to find this thread and what compelled you to resurrect a post that has been dormant for over 2 years?
I'm beginning to feel like I've stumbled headfirst into the proverbial rabbit hole.
No, you weren't just posting about the house, Annie. Read your original comments again. You also offered comments about Michael and his website as well as several comments pertaining to the house's former inhabitants in which you gave your impressions and opinions about them and how others view them. This is hardly writing "just about the house" as you now conveniently claim.
Since I was familiar with Michael -- I doubt anyone has ever really "known" him, including his wife -- this is the reason why many of my comments pertain to him and not just the house, plus others here have asked me to give further insights into him and validate certain information about him, and I was glad to oblige and fill in a few blanks. At any rate, to understand art, one first needs to understand the artist. (Since this adage is as thick and pretentious as some of your comments, I'm sure you'll appreciate it that much more.)
And as far as finding the link you posted to his website, I must be overlooking it because I still can't see where you supposedly included it, and believe me, I'd like to. Maybe your pretentiousness has blinded me, and this is the reason the link to his website continues to elude my eyesight.
As for your comments about the "warmth" of their tiny house, of course I knew your intended context, so please don't insult my intelligence. Ambiance -- "finishes, materials and decor" -- doesn't keep you warm, literally and figuratively, when it's 40 degrees indoors. Also, I wonder how appealing and "cozy" you'd find such an environment after spending days and evenings sitting knee-to-knee with another contemplating, reflecting, reading by candlelight and silently gazing off after you've tired of steadily discussing the meaning of life and the secrets of the universe. And how much warmth and coziness do you think a tiny house would convey if you opened your door one morning and found a bobcat on your porch looking hungrily at you while licking his chops? Join the real world, Annie. Innermost House may project "warmth and coziness," but try living in such an environment for awhile and then let's hear your comments and views. And AGAIN, no one has disputed the "uniqueness" of the house itself nor its aesthetic appeal, but the former inhabitants you've evidently put on such an artistic pedestal are another matter. So, you really should lower your defenses, light a candle, and reflect on that. (I know of a little house in the woods near Benicia, California where you could do that for days and evenings on end with wood rats for friends and singing bluebirds and butterflies that follow you everywhere. And instead of doing your own laundry, you could even have it sent out for others to do while you're lighting candles and contemplating what it all means -- talk about roughing it!)
You also wrote, "the lifestyle is unusual for us today, but hardly for people of 150 years ago." But it's not 1864, Annie, it's 2014, and unlike Diana and Michael Lorence, those in 1864 didn't have websites/blogs, cell phones, cars or septic systems nor did they take their laundry to a "fluff 'n fold" service and shop at a supermarket once a week, all of which Diana Lorence has written about in her blog. So, these "unique" people weren't really living like people did 150 years ago, were they, Annie? I guess they weren't the purists you'd like to think and believe they were.
Being a nudist is a different lifestyle too, but it doesn't mean that those who adhere to nudism are somehow unique, special and worthy of being followed. (Well, I guess some nudists are unique and special in their own way -- and some should be followed -- but that's another subject.)
As far as cult status, consult your dictionary and know Diana and Michael Lorence first and read some of the disturbing cult-like comments their "followers" have written about them before commenting once again on things you know nothing about. Be it houses or people, don't be so easily swayed by aesthetics and outward appearances, and above all else, please don't try so hard.
You also stated, "there are many tiny homes out there, but most with less ambiance." Have you seen them all in order to make such a claim? Do you know this for a fact?
I, for one, would enjoy hearing about all those tiny houses you've visited.
This post was edited by CucumberSandwich on Wed, Jan 8, 14 at 17:22
AnnieD, sounds to me like someone is two cucumbers short of a sandwich. What say we let this thread drop?
I'm with maire-cate. I'd love to know the answers to her questions, cucumber. Why did you seek this out and revive this thread?
I'm still not getting this animosity you express towards these people...and I'm certainly not getting all these presumptions you are making about me and my thoughts about these people and the tone you have taken in your response. There clearly is some anger here, even perhaps contempt...I'm not sure, but you might want to explore why you are feeling so strongly about this, and whether these people and their little house are worth all this negative energy that you are expending on them.
I suspect it's your strong emotions, not my "pretentiousness" that is blinding you to my post of today at 8:41 which at the very bottom has a hot link "A look inside". If you click it, will take you to lorence's website.
I never suggested they were purists or even that they were trying to prove anything. I'm perfectly aware of what year it is and know how uncomfortable I would be in a house that was only 40 degrees or had not running hot water. I also said I wouldn't want to live there. So what? I can appreciate the house for what it is.
I have not, nor need I see "all" tiny homes to opine about them...and you know that...don't be ridiculous. Of the ones I've seen, this is the most attractive to me. You clearly disagree. Fine. So be it.
I, too, find the little cabin both elegant and cozy, and admit a certain curiosity about it's former occupants. But I would hope that if I decided to spend time in a little cabin in the woods for whatever my reasons, people would not disparage me from taking advantage of modern amenities unless living there were for the express purpose of experiencing life in early days. (like in a PBS special, for example) That said, it does concern me that conversation has shifted from one of curiosity to mean spiritedness. Additionally, anyone who may have an axe to grind about someone could state a personal connection and spew forth words hurtful and harming. IMHO there is too much negativity out there everywhere right now for a civil society and is it becoming apparently more and more socially acceptable....I appreciate so much in this decorating forum the overall kindness, generosity and wisdom among the posters, and a general feeling of helpfulness, comradery, guidance and compassion. Lets not let this thread just die, as it can be resurrected again, but lets pull together and show our strength of character here, and get back on a less smarmy track.
Well, doggone it! I wanted to go back and re-read the original posts and view the little house again, but the posts and links have been edited out!
How come? I think I hear the Twilight Zone theme song . . . .
Peegee, just so you know--- I have no personal axe to grind and have no knowledge of these people IRL. They've put themselves out there and we as individuals are entitled to question, comment, opine, and even jeer when and as it seems appropriate. I'm not trying to answer you rudely, but I do not want to feel constrained to say something nice or say nothing at all on an Internet forum on a subject about which there is not much nice---IMO-- to say.
What caught my attention right off was that she looked well groomed, clothing starched and ironed and she was notably well coiffed in her cute and stylish haircut (imagining she has manual scissors and they cut her hair by candlelight before engaging in counseling, hair possibly used in some sort of new age cloth weaving), her face made up to a"tee" and yet she has no electricity so we can assume she uses bat guano for makeup preparation). She has no hot water and she "brushes" her clothes off. Once when she put clothing outside to air overnight, part of which was devoured by animals of the night, may have been one of the goats which pulls the shaft-driven generator that provides power for her internet. I suggest they are growing what they are smoking and they assume all readers and consumers of their tall "tales" are doing the same. Let the tailoring (and bashing) begin.
Little bug, just google innermost house and you'll find pics of the place.
Annie D., I'm with you on this. Despite the jokes about--not to mention the criticisms of--the Lorences, the house they built has a certain serenity in its order and plainness. I wouldn't want to live without a kitchen table, heat, etc., but Innermost House's photos and Diana's writings make me think more sharply about how I would like to live. Some of the comments seem to show that a prophet is without honor in his own land!
Someone asked if the fireplace has ashes in it, and it does. The Lorences originally had a shower in their house and heated the water with propane. That didn't prove practical without an electric fan to ventilate the shower, so they removed it. They rented an office in town and that is where their computer was used. Diana didn't grow food, but would buy it at the local farmers' market. They lived in the tiny house for 7 years, but would make an annual visit to Colonial Williamsburg. They got a car when Diana started accepting speaking engagements. When not at the house, they ate what they were offered.
Diana mentions in the blog that Innermost House is well insulated; they dressed warm and stayed near the fire. The house has a toilet and septic system and gravity fed cold water that comes from a pump in the kitchen--and Diana did operate the pump. There is a drain in the bathroom floor for the water from sponge baths. She also mentions on a tinyhouse blog that they used a "fluff and fold" laundry for their regular wash. There are two 4' x 6' lean-to sheds on each side of the house for storage, as well as a closet in the loft with poles for hanging and some drawers on the bottom--see
When Diana answers the many questions at the above blog, she is more practical and quite gracious in her responses. Most readers who asked questions were enthusiastic about the Lorences' tiny house.
Diana writes about the land surrounding the house and explains: "Those aren’t pebbles on the ground, but oak leaves. Our first year here I raked every leaf from the site, only to learn that they provide nourishment for the trees as they decompose, and that a thick covering on the ground serves as mulch against weeds." Someone raised this issue of "no leaves in the forest" in the 2012 posts on gardenweb.
There is a desk or table in the study, where one photo shows Diana sitting and writing. Diana also says that when people speak of the "mysterious" way the place looked--with nothing out of place--there's no mystery, as she kept it like that.
Diana reveals at www.innermosthouse.com that they thought they would not leave the house, which was built on a friend's property. But the friend married and sold the place. Then the new owners invited the Lorences back, and they returned. However, the place was not as quiet with the new owners in residence, so the Lorences decided to leave Innermost House.
There are some confusing and incomplete details. For example, a tailor who uses the most expensive materials and makes 52 handmade suits a year (http://www.michaelanthonylorence.com/#/who-we-are) seems to be an artist of his craft and would probably cater to the very wealthy. Still, on his own time and in his personal space he could well choose a "simple" life.
The Lorences may be rare birds, but they had the discipline and skill to design and build this beautiful little house, which I recently was happy to discover existed.
This post was edited by olderandwiser on Sat, Feb 15, 14 at 12:06
Correction: There are two 4' X 6' lean-to storage sheds, one on the east and one on the west side of the house. Some photos, including one showing the house exterior and one of the sheds, are at http://lucascountyan.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-innermost-house.html
There's a "Truman Show" interactive feel to this post. I like this site for it's design and decorating inspiration, especially from those posters who actually know what they are talking about when it comes to decorating and design. The space is a serene and cozy physical space, although it lacks the feeling of a "home." I do think the woods and creams, the books bound in all the same paper support that clean, uniform look, and in conjunction with the candles, fireplace, brick, appear to provide the cozy feeling discussed above. Realistically, though, It seems too cramped and not functional - (coats over toilet, bathing in kitchen, brushing teeth wherever...) - not even for a B&B overnight stay.
This post was edited by zen4d on Fri, Feb 14, 14 at 11:06
I joined this forum just to be able to post this; I'm usually a bit of a puzzle solver (of conspiracy theories, not jigsaws) and this house presents a fine puzzle indeed. The house itself is gorgeous but obviously staged, staged, staged; as someone above pointed out, it's like a Vermeer painting from the perfectly arranged vegetables to the candlelit glow. But that said, no this house isn't lived in full time by Michael and Diana. His web site refutes that completely. After reading the numerous testimonials on what a fine figure of a man Michael is (all written oddly like Diana writes, but perhaps the mind-space is contagious, or the customers are under some kind of hypnotic trance after being in his presence) we find that Michael produces 52 bespoke suits a year for rich men who want only the best of the best... not 51 suits, or 53, but one a week. I do some sewing myself and that seems unlikely unless what he's really doing is offering a choice of cashmere or vicuna, natural tan or dove gray, m'lord? and some real tailors, trained in the art, gentlemen from Turkey or Italy do the actual construction...; for a fee (but only after a suitable personal referral from one of their prior customers, apparently), you can have Conversations With Michael weekly or monthly; and for a somewhat larger (unspecified) fee, you can have him create for you a room just like Innermost House; complete with the books and other accouterments, (no plastic anywhere, but plenty of antiques) that would reflect well on your innermost mindset... be well aware that at every step of the way, Michael will make sure you realize that you are a refined individual, worthy of such connections and praise... because you have the weight of the world on your shoulders, and this is, well, not spectacularly self-indulgent therapy but something else... designed to help your friends and employees realize how truly unique you are, even if someone else has to set the stage, provide the phraseology and augment the setting..
I wonder if Michael (if he even exists, there are plenty of descriptions of the man and no pictures whatsoever) spent enough time at Esalen to realize, rich marks are far more lucrative than a 'real' job. For a price, he'll meet with you in San Francisco, Beverly Hills or New York. One wonders how much time he can spend at Innermost House if he's traveling the continent having these exquisite conversations with the powerbrokers of the world whilst providing them with vicuna suits, one a week.
I see a house where many of the books are covered with white paper; it makes them all look lovely and anonymous and matching, but any true reader would be appalled by such. I want to see those book's spines and titles when I look at my bookcase, to remember fondly the reading of them and have them available for the grabbing if I should get a hankering to read them again... not try to remember which one was "A Walk In The Woods" and which was 'The Joy Diet'... again, someone from House Beautiful came in and did that, or someone with a massive amount of OCD...
There's other things; Diana's tiny perfect handwriting shown in the video; her blog that reads like Thoreau but somehow manages to say nothing, really; the way the fireplace is perfectly clean gray with not a single black smudge even though it's supposedly in use all day long, ditto the front of the fireplace which should have just a tad bit of smoke staining on it, as every house I ever saw with a real used fireplace did...; the renunciation of electricity but writing a blog, having a website extolling your virtues with the utmost of pretense and ego, the white unused cushions of the two single chairs in the house (even though every evening is a long conversation, presumably whilst homemade meals are eaten with contemplation on laps, out of the single bowls available...), right next to that sooty and ever-so-slightly untidy fire...
The reason this appeals to us is obvious; it's gorgeous. There's not a single piece of plastic in evidence anywhere save a potscrubber near the kitchen faucet... the beeswax candles are always new and never melted down; there's not a single cobweb or speck of dust anywhere.. no modern paperbacks, only leatherbound gilt-edged antique volumes (none of them contain the word 'Luddite' except the newer dictionary, apparently even with all the reading Diana does, the word hadn't been invented in them yet).
Don't you see? It's beautiful, it's a blast from the idealized past (just like Williamsburg, where they met?), it's a con job and a sales pitch. One wonders if they had to move on to greener greenback pastures, now that Diana's advertising and the video made them a bit too famous... and maybe people started asking questions. One wonders where they find exactly 52 rich men a year to engage in these wonderful conversations, order a new suit and perhaps a special room of their own, and how meetings in Beverly Hills, San Francisco and New York jive with 'living in this house'...
Hats off to them, though. they've elevated flattery and 'con' way past the most Freudian of psychotherapists to something somehow Elizabethan and Shakespearian in its grandiosity. Well played, Diana and Michael Anthony Lorence. Well played.
Oh, and one other thing: There are numerous quotes about Michael from a piece GQ reportedly did on him. Can't find the article on their website at all, though.
this is a funny thread. this house is more like 12x12=144 square feet, not 12 square feet. a bed would not fit in 12 square feet.
it seems they do not live in this house, maybe they vacationed here.
they live on ocean front property in virginia in a 6000+ square foot mansion.
i read thru his website which is selling 52 suits per year. it is entirely possible that he does tailoring for rich men, charging thousands for each suit, making a good income. perhaps the wife is the marketing genius behind this venture.
Where is the link to this house?
Just google 'innermost house' and you'll come up with loads of info and videos
Alternate title for the blog: "Personality Disorders at Home"
That may be one way of looking at it. I find it fascinating that the testimonials all read exactly like Diana's style of writing, hyperbolic and overly effusive. A search for the innermost house website led me to the domain name info, and a rented office in Aptos.
Anyone seen anything from Diana and Michael since they moved to the East Coast in search of 'more conversations'? Do we have another House Beautiful living arrangement (unlived-in) to look forward to? Stay tuned...
This post was edited by signalfire on Sat, Apr 26, 14 at 11:06
I am not sure that this classifies as personality disorder, more marketing ploy.