New To Kitchens? Posting Pics? Read Me! [Help keep on Page 1]

buehlJuly 16, 2012

Welcome! If you are new to the Kitchens Forum, you may find the following information and links helpful.

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buehl

To make this thread more readable and to make it easier to find a specific topic, I have created separate threads for each topic and just point/link to them from here.

We will continue to bump this thread, but not the other threads I created. Please, do not bump the "subject" threads I will be linking to from here. We do not want to flood the first page with all those threads. To do so would knock threads from members asking for help, etc. off the first page and would be counter-productive!

Note: The subject threads have long since "fallen off" the thread list, so no amount of bumping or question asking will bring them back to the thread list. If you have questions, please start a new thread with your question.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2012 at 8:23PM
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buehl

The following thread contains the information we need to help you find a layout that works for you and your family as well as how to draw up and label a floor plan.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg010521247761.html

What are zones and how do you design with them in mind?

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0508230128712.html

A piece of advice:

When you post a layout for comments, please do not take the comments you receive personally. Everyone here is trying to help, not criticize maliciously. We want you to have a kitchen that, in the end, functions wonderfully well and looks nice overall. This may mean that some of us may tear apart your layout and rebuild it to what we think will work better, but it's done with good intentions. We're not the best at just "validating" someones layout, we're best at critiquing!

I will warn you that most of us here are "function over form" (or "function first")...meaning we strive first for a functional layout and then fit the form or look around it. It is far easier to make a functional kitchen look nice than it is to make a nice looking but dysfunctional kitchen functional. So, if you are a form/looks over function person, be sure to state that when you post.

Some people here think "function over form" means that we want all kitchens to look the same....not true! What we do want is all kitchens to function well...which means that in 99% of the cases, the workflow is the same...so that will mean some similarities due to workflow. However, as each kitchen is unique, each will have its own unique quirks, etc.

In the end, remember this is your kitchen. You don't have to make any of the recommended changes if you don't want to!

[Note: If you're just posting for validation of your layout (i.e., you don't want comments that suggest changes), state that as well. If you don't, people will comment on it!

Warning: People may comment anyway, it's tough to let a kitchen go that you think is dysfunctional and will cause angst later...especially if it's not yet installed and we think we can help. Bear with us, we're just trying to help!]

    Bookmark   July 16, 2012 at 8:25PM
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buehl

Contains: Links from the "Read Me" thread
Pantries
Useful Information (NKBA links, Other Forums)
Helpful Threads (a myriad of past & present threads containing useful/helpful information)
Tile Information.
Stone Information (how to shop/test/install stone counters, how to remove stains)
Cleaning Your Kitchen
Custom Cabinetmaker Sample Agreement

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0105344116836.html

    Bookmark   July 16, 2012 at 8:27PM
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buehl

~bump~

Will this bring it back? It's disappeared!

    Bookmark   July 18, 2012 at 9:49PM
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ginny20

I was wondering what happened after it reached 150 posts.

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willtv

Bump

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angie_diy

I'll try to bump again, even though you are MIA. Maybe you will hit 150 posts before ever appearing on GW's pages!

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enduring

I'll try too. BUMP

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susied3

It's still MIA! Wonder what's going on? After seeing the MIA thread, I'm saving this one!

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marcolo

What the...?

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leela4

Ok-me too-bump.

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purplepansies

Trying to bump as well. . . .

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ginny20

It's back! Hurray!

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enduring

Well, HELLO!

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buehl

It's about time! :-)

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angie_diy

So glad you are back!

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breezygirl

Happy bump.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2012 at 7:28PM
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beekeeperswife

I said hello, NewToKitchensThread,......well, hello, NewToKitchensThread
It's so nice to have you back where you belong
You're lookin' swell, NewToKitchensThread.......i can tell, NewToKitchensThread
You're still glowin'...you're still crowin'...you're still goin' strong
I feel that room swayin'......while the band's playin'
One of your old favourite songs from way back when
So..... take her wrap, fellas.......find her an empty lap, fellas
NewToKitchensThread'll never go away again

(instrumental break)

I said hello, NewToKitchensThread,.....well, hello, NewToKitchensThread
It's so nice to have you back where you belong
You're lookin' swell, NewToKitchensThread.....i can tell, NewToKitchensThread
You're still glowin'...you're still crowin'...you're still goin' strong
I feel the room swayin'...while that ole band keeps on playin'
One of your old favourite songs from way back when
So...golly, gee, fellas....find her an empty knee, fellas
NewToKitchensThread'll never go away....i said she'll never go away
NewToKitchensThread'll never go away again

    Bookmark   July 24, 2012 at 8:37PM
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aliris19

Nice to see you again .... now back where you belong! oof.

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ginny20

bump

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darbuka

LOL, Bee!

And...a ***bump***

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angie_diy

bump -- Bee, too funny!

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angie_diy

bumpity bump

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darbuka

***bump***

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leela4

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breezygirl

I LOVE Hello Dolly!! Its been too long since I've seen that movie. Gotta remember the nextflix password. ;)

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angie_diy

bump

    Bookmark   July 27, 2012 at 12:16AM
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breezygirl

As long as we are quoting songs, here's an oldie and a goodie from my teenage hood.

'Look out weekend cuz here I come!
Because weekends were made for fun!'

Can anyone name that song?

    Bookmark   July 27, 2012 at 2:08PM
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beekeeperswife

Oh Debbie....

"All you ladies, clap your hands, stomp your feet and grab your man"

Here is a link that might be useful: lol

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beekeeperswife

do the hustle,

I mean the

BUMP

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darbuka

***bump***

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angie_diy

bump

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angie_diy

bumpity bump

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angie_diy

bumpity bump bump

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angie_diy

bumpity bump bump bump

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breezygirl

When I hear music, it makes me dance....

Here is a link that might be useful: Better than Lookout Weekend?

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angie_diy

Always lovin' Breezy's bumps!

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angie_diy

Bumpity bump

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angie_diy

Bumpity bump bump

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aliris19

...bump bump

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angie_diy

bump (Aliris, I could almost hear your "bump bump" response!)

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BurnsFamily

Thanks for bumping this so us newbies could read and learn how to use the forum. If I knew how to delete my original post until I learn how to use the forum properly, I would. Thanks again for bumping!

    Bookmark   July 31, 2012 at 11:13AM
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angie_diy

bump

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breezygirl

Angie-- :) Thank you. For the compliment and for what you did for me a few months ago.

Here is a link that might be useful: Fallettinme Be Mice Elf Agin

    Bookmark   August 1, 2012 at 3:51AM
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angie_diy

Breezy: you are most welcome! (The few-months ago thing: I had a hunch, but was not sure, it was the right thing to do. I am glad it was a welcome gesture.)

The title to that Sly song is a bit ironic considering my post on the "What stage was the hardest for you?4 the lucky one's done" thread.

I played the Sly song, and my cat sat up and looked freaked out, looking around, wondering where the noise was coming from. (I don't often play tunes on my laptop.) Too funny!

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angie_diy

bumpity bump

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angie_diy

bumpity bump bump

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ginny20

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breezygirl

Angie--Ironic timing maybe, but I think the subject had to be broached. You weren't the only member considering politely asking the same. I stopped opening threads like that for that reason and others as bothersome.

This calls for another song.

Here is a link that might be useful: Don't Worry

    Bookmark   August 2, 2012 at 4:34AM
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angela12345

Angie and breezy ... No more talking in code !! Inquiring minds want to know what "the thing" you did was !

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angie_diy

Hi, fellow Angela,

I think this link should explain it:

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/con050122094808.html

Breezy:

Still lovin' the music choices!

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beekeeperswife

bumpin'

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beekeeperswife

....and again...bump

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angie_diy

Bump!

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 12:56AM
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breezygirl

Speaking of my Dad, can I share? I attribute my love of music to him. He always played tapes in the car and (I date myself) records at home. At the time, I wasn't a big fan of the Johnny Cash, John Denver, Neil Diamond, Linda Ronstadt, and the like that he listened to incessantly. I have, however, come to appreciate much of that music now as an adult.

The day my Dad died, I crawled up in his chair and found his headphones and mp3 player on the chest/side table. He hadn't listened to music on his house stereo much over the past decade or so partly due to his hearing and partly due to his wife's preferences, but I spotted him on occasion using the headphones. When I pulled them on, I felt so close to him sharing this very personal expression of himself that seemed recently a private experience with the headphones. Plus, it felt like a little escape from all the family goings on in the house without actually leaving.

Every song had a meaningful connection to what was happening that day. The first was Elvis Presley's 'Peace in the Valley'. No tears on that one. ;) The second was this John Denver song that he sung randomly in acapella to my brothers and I growing up. (He did his little annoying acapella renditions of many songs frequently, but what I wouldn't give to hear just one more.)

As a child, I thought Mr. Denver was singing about West Virginia. We live in the opposite side of the country, but my Dad grew up in the heart of our regions's Palouse farming area. Despite living most his adult life in the non-farming side of the state, I think his heart always belonged there as he spent weeks every year helping his farming cousins run the combines during harvest. He much preferred being outside farming, hunting, fishing, hiking, and whitewater rafting all over the West than persuing more urban activities.

I see a deeper meaning in this song now.

Here is a link that might be useful: Country roads (take me home)

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 2:25PM
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breezygirl

Another musical bump.

In addition to my previous song, my brothers and I included this one in the photo show that played both before and after my Dad's memorial service. My Dad also serenaded us as children with this "little ditty" as he called it. Then, as a final touch, he ended his little ditties with a "scooby-dooby-do" at the end. He thought he was funny. Us? Not so much.

I think this should be my last musical bump as I'm so OT.

Here is a link that might be useful: Country Boy

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 7:23PM
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angie_diy

I don't think you *can* be OT on this thread, can you?

I tried to do a musical bump, and I came up empty with anything I wanted to share.... :-(

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angie_diy

bumpity bump

    Bookmark   August 4, 2012 at 3:49PM
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breezygirl

Not OT you say? Ok then. Here's another musical bump in honor of opening night of Turandot and of the Seattle Opera. I think this is my 17th season at the opera.

Domingo isn't my most favorite tenor (I don't dislike him by any means), but I wanted the visual to go along with the audio.

Here is a link that might be useful: Nessun Dorma

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angie_diy

Bump.

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enduring

bump

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bump

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angie_diy

Bumpity bump

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breezygirl

Couldn't help think of this 80's flashback on our hot Saturday night listening to loud thumpthumpthumps while in the big city for the opera.

Here is a link that might be useful: Cars That Go Boom

    Bookmark   August 6, 2012 at 2:37AM
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angie_diy

Re: Cars that go boom. Wow, was that ever a trip down memory lane! Let's go back a little farther and sappier:

Here is a link that might be useful: Queen of Hearts

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ae2ga

Up to the top!

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darbuka

***bump***

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angie_diy

bump!!

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angie_diy

Bumpity bump

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CuteLily

thanks for sharing these useful things. It really help me a lot.

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    Bookmark   August 7, 2012 at 10:06AM
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breezygirl

Angie--I haven't heard a Juice song in quite some time! Honestly, when I saw the words 'of Hearts', all I could hear in my head was 'Two of Hearts.' Another of my old 80's dance faves.

Here is a link that might be useful: See your Queen of Hearts and raise you

    Bookmark   August 7, 2012 at 6:30PM
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leela4

~bump~

And breezy-another:

Here is a link that might be useful: DMB crazy dancing

    Bookmark   August 7, 2012 at 11:53PM
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angie_diy

I was just introduced to this song, and find it really pretty.

Here is a link that might be useful: Townes van Zandt

    Bookmark   August 8, 2012 at 5:35PM
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beekeeperswife

Breezy, my Dad had a love of music too, and I learned a lot from him . He listened to a wide variety of different styles.

But every Sunday, after church, this was the song, no, album of choice. I knew that entire symphony by heart.

Here is a link that might be useful: Capriccio Italien by Tchaikovsky

    Bookmark   August 8, 2012 at 10:02PM
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angie_diy

Keepin' it in the '80s (the 1980s, that is, bee! ;-) (The Tchaikovsky piece was from 1880.)

Here is a link that might be useful: And We Danced

    Bookmark   August 9, 2012 at 9:22AM
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angie_diy

And, of course, we cannot do the Hooters with Cyndi Lauper

Here is a link that might be useful: Girls

    Bookmark   August 9, 2012 at 4:18PM
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aliris19

slouching toward page 3.... and harboring interesting confessions I see, too. Another night though; this one's been long enough.

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angie_diy

Let's do another Townes Van Zandt

Here is a link that might be useful: Come tomorrow

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darbuka

***bump***

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buehl

~bump~

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angie_diy

What are you doing on pg. 3, you naughty thread?

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angie_diy

Bumpity bump

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angie_diy

Bump

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enduring

b.b.b.b.bump

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beekeeperswife

to page 1

    Bookmark   August 16, 2012 at 7:18AM
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aliris19

Aaaaah.... as this thread is about to be obsolete I wanted to be sure to read its secret OT contents before disappearance.

Breezy, thanks for the Q of H memories --- loving that song was always a dirty pleasure. But re-listening to it, it didn't even seem all that bad. I still think she has a great voice and the song is good. I wonder what happened to her?

And of course, those pictures of WVA are so deeply restorative. I remember driving through the blue ridge with some friends on college Spring Break and phoning my parents saying: "Why didn't you tell me there was a part of this country so incredibly beautiful"? I still think it's the most lovely from within an awfully crowded field of competition. Just when I was beginning to resign myself to living in this godforsaken desert....

And of course linking to Van Zandt is interesting too as there is such a culture of honoring folk music within and around those hollows of WVA. That song always was, probably still is a favorite among that particular crowd.

These nostalgic songs are about to have me weeping now, all on account of GW getting a sticky thread. Geeesh.

Thanks for the healing tones....

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enduring

I will miss this thread:(

Here is a song that I haven't heard in decades. And there is a kitchen.

Here is a link that might be useful: Pancho and Lefty

    Bookmark   August 16, 2012 at 7:06PM
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enduring

The best voice in the world

Here is a link that might be useful: Pancho and lefty by Willie

    Bookmark   August 16, 2012 at 7:08PM
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breezygirl

Leela--What a crazy DM! And that concert was in my area.

Angie--Thank you for introducing me to Townes. The first of the two you linked touched me. And the Hooters! Great! I was obsessed with CL's 'Girls' back in the day. I didn't so much like her crazy appearance, but loved the song.

Bee--I always enjoy Tchaikovsky and now my children are forced to listen to CI with me! Sounds like your Dad was a lot like mine. You've been a helpful inspiration to me over the last months knowing that you live a daily happy life despite losing your father. I don't mean it to sound dumb, just that I know (duh...) that I can make it if you did.

Aliris--WVA is area of the country I'd like to explore some day. Pictures make it look like misty heaven.

Enduring--I have to admit that Willie still doesn't flip up my socks, although I do have a greater appreciation for him now than I did when I was forced to listen to him as a child.

I've missed this thread! I've only checked into the forum a few minutes at night recently as life has gotten busy. My Dad's widow put her house on the market with all of us expecting it would take many months to sell, but she had an offer within 3 days. It's been emotionally difficult helping her pack up; try to divide her things from those of my Dad that go to my brothers and I; and say goodbye to my Dad's beloved hunting dogs. I have a particularly soft spot for the black lab Pete. His hunting skills and sweet personality were so dear to my Dad. I wish I could have brought him home to live with us, but we're just not set up for a dog. My Dad's former boss took the dogs on a temporary foster so we still need to find a home for them.

Here's a song that keeps running through my head lately because of the hook not the lyrics. When will my world change? When does the day-to-day grief change?

Here is a link that might be useful: Waiting on the World to Change

    Bookmark   August 16, 2012 at 8:38PM
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breezygirl

Oops. Forgot.

I was going to mention an idea I proposed on the thread about the excitement of having a new sticky. Now that we won't be able to have our fun bumping this thread any longer, how about a thread over on the Conversation side of the forum for our musical whims? We could check in every day or so and post music or...whatever. Just a place to share music. Thoughts?

    Bookmark   August 16, 2012 at 8:42PM
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enduring

Great idea, do you have a name for the tread?

    Bookmark   August 16, 2012 at 8:46PM
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aliris19

Breezy, Pictures make it look like misty heaven - "Smoky Mountains" perhaps? I always thought that was just a name -- I didn't realize it was a description! I hope you get there soon.

And I wanted to tell you of a sheet of paper a friend brought by for me when my Dad died. She'd been given it in hospice. The gist was, or at least I took away two things: it will take a minimum of a year to fall through to 'normal'-ish-ness. And that said, no matter how long you think it will take, double that. Sort of like a contractor's estimate of cost, eh?

It probably took 4 years for the horrible, sharp, acrid images of my father's death (also from pancreatic ca) to fade. But they have mellowed now. It will happen; it is possible to grieve through to the other end.

The only solution I know is to love every second of the here-and-now. I think Uncle Seymour (Van Zandt's buddy) mentions something about being thankful for every second you get. Love your babies, they disappear so fast! ... and that's what feels so sad, because your Dad did.

I'm going to start a music thread in the parallel kitchens forum world now. You can hear one of my favs there...

    Bookmark   August 17, 2012 at 1:40AM
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enduring

I'm headed to the IOWA STATE FAIR....Bump just for old time's sake

    Bookmark   August 17, 2012 at 8:30AM
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buehl

Sorry, but we need to keep bumping this thread as the sticky thread is not the real thread - it's missing the vast majority of information!

Since we aren't allowed to post it, I can't fix it!

I'm trying to get the FAQ online, but I'm waiting for the iVillage developers to fix an issue I'm having.

    Bookmark   August 18, 2012 at 4:51PM
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enduring

bump as Buehl requested:)

    Bookmark   August 18, 2012 at 10:33PM
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angie_diy

Still bumping until sticky is fixed.

Oh, and here is a link to the promised "musical thread":

Here is a link that might be useful: Musical thread on Conversations

    Bookmark   August 19, 2012 at 11:16AM
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enduring

More music links over there please

    Bookmark   August 19, 2012 at 2:45PM
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angie_diy

bumpin'

    Bookmark   August 19, 2012 at 9:31PM
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angie_diy

Let's bump again, like we did last summer...

    Bookmark   August 20, 2012 at 10:37AM
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angela12345

Well, iVillage must listen, because it seems that the ad is gone from the bottom of the page. BUT it pisses me off that the thread complaining about it has been deleted. That is very "Big Brother". It's not the first thread or certain posts from the middle of a thread to be deleted especially recently. Even from threads where the disagreements were pretty mild.

I do not care for censorship.

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/kitchbath/msg0805380617952.html

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=ivillage+michelle+add+ad+ipad+site:gardenweb.com

    Bookmark   August 20, 2012 at 1:01PM
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aliris19

"iVillage", aka Tamara as far as I can tell, is paying attention, sort of, recently. They still haven't fixed this stupid thread of course -- what's the point of a sticky thread that's not sticking what is needed to be sticked? stuck?

She -- or someone -- once removed a post of mine noting that Salvation Army was non secular. It was explained to me that "politics" is OT.

    Bookmark   August 20, 2012 at 1:47PM
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angie_diy

Bump!

    Bookmark   August 20, 2012 at 9:42PM
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lalithar

Bump

    Bookmark   August 20, 2012 at 11:51PM
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buehl

Just got word the iVillage developers should have fixed the issues I've been having with the FAQ! Stay tuned! I will see if I can finish the FAQ this coming weekend (after we take DS to college Saturday).

I can't believe he's going to college this fall! He was only 12 years old when we started planning our kitchen remodel and I joined GardenWeb!

    Bookmark   August 21, 2012 at 12:03AM
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aliris19

Yeah!

Works in progress...

    Bookmark   August 21, 2012 at 1:05AM
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angela12345

They must gave fixed the issues ?!?! I can see the FAQs and read all of them. YAY !!

http://ths.gardenweb.com/faq/kitchbath/

    Bookmark   August 21, 2012 at 10:10AM
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aliris19

Buehl, is Angela right? Is this thread now made redundant officially? sniff...

    Bookmark   August 21, 2012 at 11:36AM
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enduring

Bump, until Buehl gives the go ahead to let this thread sink.

    Bookmark   August 21, 2012 at 10:20PM
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buehl

No, the FAQs are not finished...

Keep on bumping! :-)

    Bookmark   August 21, 2012 at 10:28PM
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enduring

bump

    Bookmark   August 22, 2012 at 6:21AM
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angie_diy

bump

    Bookmark   August 22, 2012 at 1:46PM
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breezygirl

Here's an Angie inspired bump.

Here is a link that might be useful: Twist Again

    Bookmark   August 22, 2012 at 3:38PM
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angie_diy

Thanks, Breezy!

Bonnie Rait is in my town tonight. Here is a young Bonnie Raitt covering "Runaway."

Here is a link that might be useful: Runaway (Raitt version)

    Bookmark   August 22, 2012 at 10:27PM
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fouramblues

Just a bump, no tune...

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 9:37AM
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enduring

Got a tune, I know its early and the post is near the top.
Love Bonnie Rait this includes John Prine
And there is the word "kitchen" in the song:)

Here is a link that might be useful: Angle from Montgomry

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 9:57AM
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angie_diy

I used this tune on the Musical thread in conversations, but I am going to recycle it here.

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saw this awesome ensemble this weekend. There are three sisters from Donegal, Ireland called the Henry Sisters, and 4 Appalachian guys from WV called The Fox Hunt Band that met up and started playing wonderful tunes together.

Here is a link that might be useful: Hang me

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 11:47PM
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buehl

~bump~

    Bookmark   August 24, 2012 at 8:10PM
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breezygirl

Enduring--that's one of my favorite songs! Thank you for reminding me its been too long since I listened to it. Clever how you included a song with kitchen in it. :)

Angie--I'm off to listen to 'Hang Me' now!

'Angel from Montgomery' reminded me of another of my favorite BR songs. I'll link to the original singer, Sippie Wallace.

Here is a link that might be useful: Women Be Wise (not that we all aren't already!)

    Bookmark   August 24, 2012 at 9:20PM
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aliris19

breezy -- all better?

    Bookmark   August 25, 2012 at 2:41AM
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breezygirl

Aliris--Yes and no. I'll meet you over in Conversations on our musical thread. But tomorrow, okay? I must sleep now for a busy day tomorrow. :)

    Bookmark   August 25, 2012 at 4:41AM
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polie

bump

    Bookmark   August 25, 2012 at 11:08AM
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tea4all

Bump

    Bookmark   August 25, 2012 at 5:44PM
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tea4all

Bump

    Bookmark   August 25, 2012 at 5:45PM
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angie_diy

bump

    Bookmark   August 25, 2012 at 11:22PM
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angie_diy

Penultimate bump.

    Bookmark   August 26, 2012 at 7:03PM
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polie

bump

    Bookmark   August 26, 2012 at 10:08PM
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liriodendron

The retiring of this thread will be a siginificant loss to the culture of the GW Kitchen Forum, in my opinion.

It orginated from a community perception of the need to organize and preserve valuable shared knowledge about kitchen renos.

Buehl stepped up and organized - and then faithfully maintained the thread over its many incarnations. And all of us watched out for it and threw in the needed bumps to keep it visible on the front page. We often referred newbies to it, confident it would be there for them, as it had been for many of us when we started out.

This thread perfectly matched the down-to-earth, problem-solving atmosphere of the KF in a way that having most of the same content parked up in a static thread by the management will not. I will miss it.

Though I can imagine Buehl will be glad of having it off her shoulders and out of her care. Thank you (again) Buehl!

Liriodendron

    Bookmark   August 26, 2012 at 10:57PM
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