Eco by Cosentino - recycled glass countertop

camarogrannyJuly 7, 2010

Hi everyone. Must admit that I've been eavesdropping for about a month and enjoying your posts and pics of kitchen makeovers. I'm about to embark on a kitchen redo myself and have fallen in love with this product (just from the sample).I was all set to place an order (for Riverbed color) and then realized that since it's new to the market the warranty only covers 5 years. Yikes! This particular brand is similar to vetrazzo which I have read in places has a 25+ years life expectancy. The main differences as far as I can tell are that the Eco brand is more eco-friendly, uses a corn based resin rather than concrete as a binder, and requires no special sealers/maintainence, unlike some of the other recycled glass brands. Does ANYONE here have recycled glass countertops, and if so....for how long, what brand, and how satisfied are you with them? TIA for any input that can be offered. LOL...I can't move forward with any decisions until I resolve this one and after 25 years of waiting for a makeover...now I'm in a hurry!

Here is a link that might be useful: Eco By Cosentino

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amysrq

Have you priced the Eco yet? I kind of fell for it too and my counter guy said it was a lot more than regular Silestone. Better check the price before you fall totally in love.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2010 at 7:12PM
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camarogranny

LOL amy....it's way too late for that. BUT....when I first priced it a couple of months ago at Lowes it was like $99. a square ft. I brought home a sample, looked at it lovingly for several days, then returned it to Lowes with a tear in my eye, smacked myself a couple of times and said "get over it". My practical side won...temporarily!

Then everytime I went back to pick up other samples of more practical surfaces my eyes would always wander over to the Eco. So I checked out the sample again and conducted a family survey (husband excluded). Without mentioning price (LOL...didn't want anyone to think I was insane) I asked what family and friends thought. They all LOVED it too. This was followed by several days of telling myself 1. I deserve to have the kitchen I want! 2. I'm only going to remodel once! and finally #3. TO Hubby....that if I die and he starts dating again, this is a counter that's sure to make a new woman fall in love with him! ROTFL

Not sure which of the arguments swayed him, but he finally said "get what's going to make you happy". When I went back in to start actually planning the space I got a wonderful surprise...the price had dropped to $75 a sq ft. I was all grins and giggles till I found out about the warranty today. Now that aggravating practical side of my personality is threatening to burst my bubble. I brought home several quartz samples today and hate them all compared to the Eco. So now I'm really looking for some kind of advice/personal experience that will help talk me down from the ledge.

    Bookmark   July 7, 2010 at 7:45PM
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wizardnm

camero... I saw the Eco at Lowe's too, they had just gotten it in, March maybe? Anyway, I fell in love too, talked myself out of it because of the warranty and have almost decided on Cambria. I'll have to look at it again at the lower price and do some hard thinking also!

I'll be watching this thread with you. Hope there is someone that has it....

    Bookmark   July 7, 2010 at 8:28PM
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camarogranny

Hi wizard. I've spent my evening searching the web for glass counter info. Again the problem is that the Eco line just came out in March of 09, which is why at this point the warranty period is so limited. There is a lot more info out there on the durability of those that use concrete as the filler and the reviews on them are great. Since the main difference is the corn based epoxy/polymer used as a binder, I did a bit of research on that as well and found that there are a lot of industrial articles on future applications, its eco-friendliness, and particularly how it incorporates both flexibility and hardness, which is supposed to increase strength and decrease the likliness of cracking and breaking. The bigger deal compared to other glass tops is that it doesn't require any sealers, because the concrete types require sealers that are not very heat tolerant. I think I may just have to take a leap of faith on this one. I did research the Cosentino brand name itself and found that they have been in business for like a 100 years importing stone/quartz etc. and there have been a lot of architectural and design publications that have have given it (Eco) high praise as well as several well known businesses that have begun using it (including the Ritz Carlton in NY). LOL...heck...I guess if it's good enough for the Ritz and high traffic places like Starbucks, it should hold up to my kitchen traffic.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2010 at 1:18AM
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chocolatebunny

I fell in love with the Iron Ore color but once hubby found out the price I had to put it out of my mind. One countertop guy that carries the Icestone line told me he has heard of lot of problems with Icestone (glass particles flaking out, penetrating stains) but he hasn't heard of such issues yet with the Eco products. Keep in mind too that the Eco tops are 2cm vs the usual 3cm you usually get with granite or quartz. I wish I could take your leap of faith! Good luck!

    Bookmark   July 8, 2010 at 10:52AM
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carol08

Hmmm...I haven't yet gone to a store to see Eco, but I had been looking at the product brochures online, and there it says that the product has a 10-year warranty...

Here is a link that might be useful: ECO Warranty Manual Online

    Bookmark   July 8, 2010 at 1:07PM
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camarogranny

Thank you so much Carol...LOL...now I am TOTALLY bewildered though. I did a google on the warranty after I checked out your link and GEEZ....I found several sites that said 10 yrs and several that said 5 yrs. The actual site where it said you would register for your warranty clearly says 10. At first, after I saw your post I thought that maybe the brochure I read at Lowes was just outdated, but after my search there were so many conflicting sites that now I have no idea. Since sites rarely show posting dates, I don't know which is the most current/reliable.Soooo I guess a call to Lowes is in order to try and clear this up. Thank you so much for the info and I'll get back when I hear from Lowes.

Here is a link that might be useful: Eco warranty registration

    Bookmark   July 8, 2010 at 2:19PM
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boxerpups

I have heard super things about Eco. I hope it works
out as this is helping our planet. I wish there
were more kitchen products that were green earth
friendly.

~boxer

    Bookmark   July 8, 2010 at 2:30PM
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camarogranny

Well Lowes called back and the warranty is 10 yrs (Thanks again Carol)! Looks like I may be the first one here to take the plunge because I'm lovin this countertop and I've waited a long time to get updates that belong to me and not the original owner. I'm not splurging on a bunch of new appliances, so even at the reduced price, these countertops will be my splurge.

    Bookmark   July 8, 2010 at 9:08PM
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carol08

That's great news, camarogranny! Keep us posted on how it all works out.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 11:00AM
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wizardnm

Camaro, how long before you plan on the install? I think I'll stop by Lowe's tomorrow myself and look again... There was on sample that was dark I liked and another that was light. The amount of mirror used is what intrigued me. I'm going contemporary and Eco just had the right look to me.
I like the fact that is a green product but wish I didn't have to go thru a big box store to get it...

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 11:58AM
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wizardnm

Camaro, how long before you plan on the install? I think I'll stop by Lowe's tomorrow myself and look again... There was on sample that was dark I liked and another that was light. The amount of mirror used is what intrigued me. I'm going contemporary and Eco just had the right look to me.
I like the fact that is a green product but wish I didn't have to go thru a big box store to get it...

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 12:06PM
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carol08

Hi, wizardnm--Have you checked Eco's "store locator" on line? In my area, there are a lot of dealers beside the big box stores. Maybe not where you are, of course.

Here is a link that might be useful: Eco store locator

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 12:15PM
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flwrs_n_co

Camarogranny, what I've learned from this forum is to always check your slabs before installation--no matter what the product is (granite, quartz, etc.). I would think that would apply to Eco, too. Lowes may give you a hard time about this, but I would insist on it. You don't want any unpleasant surprises as some have had.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 12:22PM
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wizardnm

I have to admit, I made my post and then thought about checking for other dealers. Found a couple in my area so I'll check them out. Thanks!

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 12:25PM
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sue_b

I have ECO by Cosentino Riverbed in my bathroom and I love it. It's been in 7 months and it looks brand new. It seems impervious to everything. Try the Gardenweb Bathrooms forum to search for others with experience. I have red polished marble on our kitchen island and it was etched and scratched at the end of day 1. My ECO Cosentino hasn't had the orange juice pitcher left on it overnight....they sell samples for $4 on the website you linked so do the countertop tests I've read about on this site like leave a red wine spill on it overnight and check it in the morning.

This little piece is 22 inches by 18 inches & was $700 with the side and backsplash. I don't think you'll see a slab. It goes to your fabricator, they template and bring it back to install. It's a uniform product so all samples are exactly what you'll get. Let me know if I can tell you anything else.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 1:04PM
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camarogranny

Thank you so much Sue. LOL...I even love looking at it in your bathroom.

I already have a sample size..a couple in fact. The very first thing I did with them and with all the other corian, quartz, laminate, and granite samples I brought home was...get ready....pulled a knife out of my drawer and tried to scratch them. First I tried with the serated edge knife in a normal cutting position and with good pressure gave them a good slice. Remarkably, the only two to pass this test were the textured laminate and the Eco. Then I took it one step further and turned the knife on its side and with a lot of pressure drug it along the surface. The laminate was still not too bad (considering this is a test most counters would not be exposed to anyway) BUT, the Eco did not show a single mark. Every other sample type I tried showed scratches. The next test I tried was on a white sample of Eco. I placed a blackberry, ketchup, lemon slice, peanut oil, mustard, and a piece of sponge soaked in wine and one in vinegar on the sample and let it sit overnight. Next morning I rinsed it off and there was absolutely no change. LOL...now it's not that I typically go to bed with a mess in my kitchen, but I never know what type of mess one of the grands or even hubby might leave sitting for me to clean up.

Sue, I did notice that you have a flat edge and an undermount sink. These are the only two things that concerned me enough to consider changing for my kitchen.
1st- I read that rounded edges on all types of counters are less likely to chip than flat or ogee style edges. 2nd-because of that concern I've also decided to keep my top mount sink style. I do a lot of canning and hubby uses large heavy pots for cooking crabs and I just didn't want to subject an inside sink edge to that kind of beating. It wouldn't concern me in a bath because the wear and tear is totally different. Love that yours is paired with the dark cabinetry. I'm choosing to go with solid oak stained with a chocolate with mocha glaze...(the color exactly matches the brown flecks in the riverbed).

Wizardmom...yep the mirror definitely gives it a glam factor, but what appealed to me was the actual depth you could see in the Eco. I was and am still in love with the Luna color as well. That was on display in Lowes and it was awesome. I'm seriously considering going with that shade on my island. My island is actually 2 bisque colored sideboards placed back to back to create a 3x5 area. The family (mostly mom and hubby) think that I should keep all the countertops the same, BUT going with 2 tones doesn't scare me. I just couldn't decide at first whether I'd like to go with the lighter luna color on the dark cabinetry and the riverbed on the island...or vice versa. But I think I'll stick with the dark/dark, light/light combo, just because I think the lighter center island will suit me best when it comes to decorating for Christmas. ( LOL..I try to plan ahead and think about how I like to change color schemes throughout the year!)

Sue, I definitely will check out the bath section today.

Thx for the tip flwers, but as Sue said, the fabricators come out and measure for this product and then it is poured as a single custom slab. No previews....just a grand surprise on install day.

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carol08

Wow, camarogranny. Those tests you did of the Eco samples sound amazing. I don't know anybody with Eco countertops and when I googled them for reviews I found one very negative reviewer who complained about scratches and divots--and not much else. Your tests are very reassuring.

I think flwrs' suggestion about previewing the slabs comes from GW discussions of potential problems with resin pooling in quartz countertops (which result in occasional ugly blobs of resin amidst the otherwise homogeneous mixture). I hope the binder used in Eco isn't subject to the same problem.

    Bookmark   July 9, 2010 at 4:35PM
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air_upser

I'm redoing my kitchen right now I'm pretty certain I'll be buying Eco. I like the "White Diamond" color. It's $70 sq ft at my local Lowes (Florida Gulf coast).

I'm installing white painted shaker cabinets and think White Diamond will look very nice with a light blue glass subway tile backsplash to set it off.

I know it's still a relatively new product but I'm not too concerned about the warranty.

Tipsy

    Bookmark   July 12, 2010 at 10:26AM
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sue_b

I just read about another material called Eco Top so I'll start a new thread about it. It's 50% recycled wood/paper and 50% bamboo.

Here is a link that might be useful: Eco Top PR article

    Bookmark   August 4, 2010 at 2:24PM
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daveinorlado

If you buy your countertop at lowes I suggest you go the the atm at the bank get out as many $100 bills as you can and light them on fire! That is what your doing buying countertops at lowes or home depot. They sell their cabinets at a low mark up and they know you are a sucker for the countertop and they make much higher margins on the tops regardless of type.

I have not got my supplier set up for ECO in Orlando. In Dc where I was a partner in a store till Dec I want to say dealer cost was 40's-60's depending on the color. those are not the exact dealer costs but it is in the range. I would not pay over 70 for it. 100 is crazy! Everyone got in the granite market as a supplier and fabricator. Eco and other products are intended to give dealers a way to make lots of money on tops again. Do not be a sucker! How is recycled glass which is sand heated up more less that much better then a rock from a hole in the ground? If you like its look that is great but I do not see the value of it as recyled product. I do not understand why we as a society do not mandate recycling of plastic products at fast food places for example. If the countertop was made of plastic I could see being oil based which I would think is less plentiful then silica.

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air_upser

Daveinorlado...I'm paying $70 sq ft installed at Lowes for Eco (White Diamond).

Doesn't seem so outrageous based on the dealer cost you suggest.

Tipsy

    Bookmark   August 7, 2010 at 10:20PM
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saltlakecityct

It depends on how the craftsmen would do that. But it would most be likely messy. Try the counter tops design from Salt Lake City. Could get an idea out there.

Here is a link that might be useful: Salt Lake City Countertops

    Bookmark   August 7, 2010 at 10:41PM
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dianalo

If you do order from Lowes or HD, make sure you get a 20% off coupon from ebay to help lower the cost. It is worth it on big orders!

    Bookmark   August 8, 2010 at 12:35AM
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typerex

Any update on the Eco kitchen counter installs? We're almost ready to pick our countertop, and I'm having a tough time deciding between granite and Eco. Love what the manufacturer says about Eco's durability and whatnot, need to back it up with some opinions from actual installs.
If we go with granite it will be a dark green almost black "Indian Green Labradorite". Afraid of the horror stories about granite etching, cracking, staining, etc.

Our kitchen is black/gray/stainless steel Ikea contemporary style.

    Bookmark   August 20, 2010 at 12:59PM
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air_upser

I changed my mind and went with granite instead of Eco.

Went with 3cm Shiva Gold.

Tipsy

    Bookmark   September 9, 2010 at 5:34PM
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achateau4u_aol_com

Considering going with Eco but worried about the 2 cm thickness. Anybody go with this width? It sounds awfully thin. Don't want to pay for added built-up edge. Costs a lot already.

    Bookmark   February 3, 2011 at 11:00PM
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tomson2101_yahoo_com

Great testing from camarogranny, you should try the heat test. put a nice hot pan on it, and see the result. I doubt anyone will be that aggressive with a knife, its probably more reasonable to put a hot pot or pan on it that attack it with a knife.

Here is a link that might be useful: Engineered Stone

    Bookmark   February 10, 2011 at 5:47AM
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cherjack_optonline_net

I was a little turned off by the 2 cm. thickness at first. But someone pointed out that that is a more contemporary look, and that's the look I'm going for, so it doesn't bother me now. Have no idea if it affects the durability, but somehow I doubt it. It's down to $68 a SF at my Home Depot.

Dying to know what camarogranny ended up doing!

    Bookmark   March 5, 2011 at 12:47AM
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newroads04_aol_com

I would love to hear more on the Eco counter install too. I just purchased the Eco Riverbed for ours. I was looking close at a quartz but just couldn't get my eyes off that Riverbed. lol!

    Bookmark   April 14, 2011 at 5:27PM
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Geanie_98513_hotmail_com

We put Eco white diamond in my Grampas vacation home in Maui. We put it in the kitchen,laundry and both bathrooms. The pics came out great but I have not had the chance to see it yet. We are going next month and it will be a year since the install so we will see how it has held up. The home is rented out constantly and we needed something that was going to hold up and require less maintenance. I now am looking at redoing my kitchen and I've got my eye on Eco terra. I'll make my decision after I see how the white diamond has held up.

    Bookmark   May 23, 2011 at 2:22AM
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katbourgeois_hotmail_com

I would to see an update from someone who has had the Eco countertops for a while. Home Depot has it for $57 all inclusive and I love the black. Trying to decide between Silestone Stellar night ($56) and Eco Starlight.

    Bookmark   July 2, 2011 at 12:47PM
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jhenders46

Does anyone have any stories on problems they encountered with purchasing ECO? I ordered my countertop from Lowes last month. The installer is now telling me that my counter is on back order from Spain and could take another 2 weeks or more to get in. I'm considering looking around for something else. It seems ridiculous to have to wait that long.

    Bookmark   January 9, 2012 at 1:09PM
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haj56

I'm new to these boards, too, so first a hearty Thank You!
Y'all are so full of amazing knowledge and experiences. I'm
in the design stage of a major rehab/remodel/addition and
have oh, roughly 10zillion decisions to make. Yikes!

I saw the ECO by Constantino countertops at Lowe's today
and thought they were lovely. I also love the idea of 75%
post-consumer recycled materials. They're down to $57/sf
with a sale on some at $47/sf.

Did anyone end up installing it? Geanie in Florida? Is it
holding up, easy to maintain, nice to work on? I'm hesitant
to use something with so little actual track-record info.

Heidi in Austin

    Bookmark   January 30, 2013 at 7:00PM
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aliris19

I'd love to hear and see photos too please!

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Bea74

I really like Eco luna and have gone out for bids. I paid $ 35 (non returnable) to Lowe's for the estimate. When I emailed back to all 3 bidders if their estimate included everything and listed some thing the other bidders had included that they had not, I was told by Lowes that to get a complete estimate I would have to pay another $75 for the more complete estimate. This $75 would be applied to the cost if they "won" the bid. Since they are presently the lowest bidder, I'm torn as to whether to pay the additional $75 because then with the extra they will be adding, they may not be lowest bidder. Have those of you who have used Lowe's been pleased with the final cost as compared to their estimate and the quality of workmanship?

    Bookmark   July 29, 2013 at 9:36PM
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Bea74

I really like Eco luna and have gone out for bids. I paid $ 35 (non returnable) to Lowe's for the estimate. When I emailed back to all 3 bidders if their estimate included everything and listed some thing the other bidders had included that they had not, I was told by Lowes that to get a complete estimate I would have to pay another $ 75 for the more complete estimate. This$ 75 would be applied to the cost if they "won" the bid. Since they are presently the lowest bidder, I'm torn as to whether to pay the additional $ 75 because then with the extra they will be adding, the may not be lowest bidder. Have those of you who have used Lowe's been pleased with the final cost as compared to the estimate and the quality of workmanship?

    Bookmark   July 29, 2013 at 9:41PM
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cindyrmax

Hello I am new on this because I am extremely interested in buying the eco white diamond for my kitchen. Any advice would help and if any one has any pictures and any other places I could purchase it other than lowes or HD I would appreciate it so much

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