3 way switch problem

yourmomNovember 17, 2011

ok there is a junction somewhere between the last light and the #2 3 way switch

#1 switch has no power it goes to the light and travelers pass through. #2 switch has 3 wires only a hot and two travelers / Neutral must be coming from a junction box.When i put the hot on the common on switch #2 and 1 traveler the light comes on and does not shut off. When i flip the switch on #1 switch the light makes one flicker and stays on. Not sure what to do

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bus_driver

For what reason did you begin to "work" on this system? Older 3-way hookups may have a neutral only at the box of the light fixture. And that was perfectly proper until recent code revisions.

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 5:46PM
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yourmom

the home run obviously comes from a junction thats coverd the netrual is not the problem cause the lights come on

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 6:05PM
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bus_driver

For what reason did you begin to "work" on this system?

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 7:38PM
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yourmom

for what reason do you keep asking did you not read the ?if you are unable to understand the problem please dont respond

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 7:57PM
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bus_driver

I hope no one responds. The answer to that question is quite important to understand the problem.

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 8:02PM
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hendricus

1. the junction box is the light

2. the neutral is only at the light. the switches only switch the hot line

3. your power probably comes through the light junction, goes to the common of the first switch along the travelers to the second switch and from that common back to the light.

4 the switches only go to one light, all the other lights , if any, get hooked to this light.

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 9:33PM
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yourmom

1) No junction is after first switch before light
2) The hot and neutral come from the j box and goes seperate ways hot goes to switch#1 and neutral goes to light
3) when i hook up the hot at switch#1to give it power to switch#2 and then flip the switch the light just gives off one flicker and stays on

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 9:54PM
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yourmom

i think the hot has to be hooked up something else in the j box its got to be feeding it twice

    Bookmark   November 17, 2011 at 10:06PM
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joed

How many wires in the switch boxes?

How many wires in the junction box and how are they connected?

How many wires in the light box?
Once we determine how the cables are run between the boxes I can tell how to connect them.

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 8:23AM
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yourmom

there are 3 wires in each switch box
The j box is covered behind drywall but was told all he did was extend the wires
the original splice point was in the light box and still is in.
im told that in the junction there is also another 3 way splice that is being extended to the same 4gang switch box.
in the light box there is the feed from the end of the 3way,a hot&neutral,and then the feed to the switch so there is 3 sets in the light box

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 1:41PM
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brickeyee

"The j box is covered behind drywall but was told all he did was extend the wires "

Junction boxes are must be accessible, and that means they may not be buried behind drywall.

The first step is probably to restore access to eh junction box and see what is there.

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 2:36PM
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yourmom

yea just hoping maybe in the light junction maybe i could change some wires around being as thats were it all comes in

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 5:14PM
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bus_driver

For what reason did you begin to "work" on this system?

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 5:53PM
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yourmom

cause im getting paid too

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 6:27PM
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bus_driver

For what technical reason is someone "working" on this system?
Four-year old boys often "work" on things simply because they are there. Paying someone to "work" on a system typically has other specific reasons.

    Bookmark   November 18, 2011 at 7:46PM
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brickeyee

"cause im getting paid too"

Unless you are licensed that would be a VERY bad idea.

Was it working previously
Dd it never work?

Dd it stop suddenly?

Any changes made?
We are not omniscient.

    Bookmark   November 19, 2011 at 9:24AM
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hexus

"it doesnt matter if im licensed or not if i took on the job i think i can handle it"

obviously you're doing a wonderful job too...
Hack job handy man at it's best

    Bookmark   November 19, 2011 at 7:22PM
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brickeyee

"it doesnt matter if im licensed or not if i took on the job i think i can handle it"

Um, no it does not work that way.

You cannot do electrical work in houses other than your own (as in the house you own ad live in) for pay without a license.

    Bookmark   November 20, 2011 at 10:05AM
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btharmy

"if you cant offer helpfull info there is no need to reply"

If YOU can't offer the required information, it is nearly impossible to troubleshoot the problem. Especially not having the luxury of seeing the situation first hand. Anyone who is any good at troubleshooting knows to ask as many questions that may relate to the situation as possible. When / why did the switches stop working? Did someone already fiddle with the wiring and make things worse, etc, etc.............Thus the questions about why you are working on the switching in the first place. Obviously, a handyman hack wouldn't know that. But, like you said yourself, "i can handle it". Yeah, it's obvious, you have it all under control.

    Bookmark   November 20, 2011 at 11:15AM
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