How would I hook a switch up to this?

shpigfordSeptember 11, 2010

We just purchased an "older" house (1984) that needs a little work.

We came across this little beauty that seems to go to the attic fan (if you jostle the wires a bit, the attic fan turns on).

But I have no idea how to hook up a switch to this thing. Any ideas?

As you can see, there are 2 black, 2 white, and 2 ground wires. It basically looks like one main wire was cut in half.

Here's the photo:

Here is a link that might be useful:

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kudzu9

Since you have no idea how to hook this up, you should get help from a knowledgeable friend or electrician. I say this because I am concerned about your remark that jostling these wires turns on the fan. Does that mean that the fan turns on without the black wires touching? And is the picture you included a previous location for a switch or what?

Also, do you know what those two cables are and where they go? If one of those cables was power, and other one went to the fan, you would just hook the two blacks to the switch and wirennut the other connections.

However, until you are sure about the function of those two cables and can clarify the issue about jostling the wires, don't do anything.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2010 at 8:47PM
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hendricus

If there was a switch here originally then there is only one black wire, cut in two for a switch. A white wire cut at the same time and then rejoined, ditto for the ground.

A switch always goes on the black, or power, line.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2010 at 8:54PM
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shpigford

Jostling the wires (specifically the black ones when they touch) turns the fan on.

The picture is what I assume to be the previous location for a switch for the fan...the previous owners were evicted and left it in a pretty odd state.

    Bookmark   September 11, 2010 at 10:55PM
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kudzu9

Then it's pretty likely that the hookup is as hendricus and I described. In addition to the existing wires, a new replacement switch should have a ground screw and you need to run a bare copper wire from that to the two existing ground wires, and wirenut all three.

My remaining question, however, would be why they removed the switch...i.e., was there a malfunction problem with the fan?

    Bookmark   September 12, 2010 at 3:15AM
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petey_racer

From the tone of the original post I agree that this is probably not within the scope of what the OP can do. Regardless of how simple.

One of those black wires is HOT, so BE CAREFUL. DO NOT go near it until you can get someone in there to fix it.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2010 at 8:25AM
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DavidR

With that large amount of NM sheath extending into the box, the existing installation (such as it is) doesn't look to me like professional work. I'd question what's inside the walls.

That said ... most likely, to get it working, you'd put wirenuts on the twisted ends of the ground and neutral wires. Then connect the two black wires to a 2-pole switch. The wires go clockwise round the screws on the switch. Tighten securely.

See Wiring Simplified (available at Home Depot or from your public library) for more information on basic wiring.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2010 at 10:33AM
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brickeyee

"Then connect the two black wires to a 2-pole switch."

Single pole switch.

You are only switching one connection.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2010 at 12:53PM
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DavidR

Yeah, that's what I said. "Single pole switch." :)

Oops. Thanks Brick, my brain missed third gear and ended up in neutral.

    Bookmark   September 13, 2010 at 10:33AM
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smithy123

use a hubbell spec grade switch. dont settle for a cheapie, they will wear out quickly

    Bookmark   October 16, 2010 at 10:59PM
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