Rewiring 21 light chandelier

rosi_cheeksSeptember 17, 2010

Hello!

I have 2 questions regarding a very large, very old, 21 light chandelier I am refurbishing. This lamp has no arms or central hub. It is essentially 3 tiered rings with chains between tiers. It was wired with a hot going around the first tier, up a chain, around the next tier, up a chain and so on. The neutral wire did the same.

The problem was there were 4 wires (hot going up to the socket and back down and the neutral going up to the socket and back down) all trying to go thru this extremely small hole. I had to drill some of the old wiring out! So my first question is: Can I use a clamshell splice to just run 1 hot wire all around the first tier and splice up 1 wire for each socket? Then go to the next tire and do the same? I would have to do the same with the neutral. This would mean I would have two clamshell splices below each socket. Hmmmmm.... not sure how that would look from down below.....

2nd question and more importantly, what gauge wire should I use? I'm guessing 40watt bulbs will suffice. So 21 lights at 40watts= 840 watts. 840watts/120volts=7amps

But what if a few years from now, someone comes along and replaces all the bulbs with 60 watt. Shouldn't I account for that possibility? So my question is, what gauge wire do you think I should use?

Thank you!!

Rosi

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brickeyee

Splices must be contained in an enclosure, even on a fixture.

A typical chandelier has a central body that encloses the splices for the arms.

You need to find someplace on the chandelier to enclose the splices.

    Bookmark   September 17, 2010 at 2:58PM
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smithy123

use 14 0r 12awg. it can be a lifesaver in the future. take the screw out of the socket terminals. insert wires,.solder away!

    Bookmark   October 16, 2010 at 10:53PM
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DavidR

> use 14 0r 12awg. it can be a lifesaver in the future.

You don't use #12 or #14 to wire a light fixture.

    Bookmark   October 17, 2010 at 3:42PM
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smithy123

if you use a screw in socket adaptor at a party, it very well can be, especially if you use the full 600 rated watts(5a)

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 10:21PM
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ontariojer

Seriously smithy, WTF?

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 10:49PM
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spencer_electrician

Yeah better make sure the dimmer is rated for 2200 watts too. Just in-case the house ever becomes a frat house and they adapter the lights to plug in 20 amps worth of black lights at a party. better not allow dimmers at all actually, someone might plug a beer fridge into the chandelier.

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 11:07PM
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smithy123

beer fridges are grounded. wont fit into socket adaptors.
i dint beleive in 3 to two adaptors. they belong next to ge panels- in the dump. 2400w in 20a circut. black lights use ballasts.

    Bookmark   October 19, 2010 at 11:20PM
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brickeyee

"black lights use ballasts."

Only the fluorescent tube type ones.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2010 at 9:02PM
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DavidR

Please, folks, let's not feed the troll.

    Bookmark   October 20, 2010 at 10:19PM
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smithy123

what if you would (very stupidly) use 100w lamps? stop calling me a troll.

    Bookmark   October 21, 2010 at 5:30PM
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