Follow up to Passive Aggressive Stepdaughter.

NadineVSeptember 11, 2013

Hi everyone, I posted last year about an ongoing problem with my husband's 2 adult step daughters.

Here is the link if anyone needs to review it:

Well, lets just say it has been one huge roller-coaster ride for me and my husband with a lot of aspects of life since my last post. His Daughters are huge players in that ride.

The daughter who was having an inappropriate relationship with a man 2x her age when she was still 16 is now 19 and has moved in with the man. She was the one that when I blew the whistle on her to her father back when she was 16, reacted as if her life was ruined and started to be mean and nasty to me while claiming that either the things she said were jokes or I didn't know what I was talking about. She still lies about the "secret relationship" the two of them had while she was under age even though she rushed to move in with him right after she turned 18. Ok, yeah she can lie all she wants but she doesn't know that someone she confided in told her father everything later and everything we suspected was being lied about was true. I already knew but there is the confirmation right there. But it is no longer our problem, she has moved away and cut contact. I personally am relieved and glad and the sad part is, so is my Husband.

Her sister has cut contact with us as well and here comes the real story to this post. Why?

The whole time this drama has been going on, her sister who is going to be 21 soon has been enabling the lies. Ok, whatever, I can understand not wanting to get in the middle of THAT situation. She basically claimed to be playing Switzerland. Problem is, for basically the whole time she has been around and I have been there, possessions of mine and my husband's have been disappearing. Whenever confronted about it, she would lie and act insulted, but soon it became pretty clear what was happening to them. I harbored resentment about it towards my husband for not putting a stop to it, especially when his new shoes went missing and they then appeared at their house later. Honestly, how can you swallow that insult? It was getting worse and worse, DVDs were disappearing, other personal belongings. Inside my head I was planning to trap her and catch her red handed because that was the only way I saw it being confronted.

Before that could ever happen, something else happened that turned the whole situation upside-down.

A bit of backround into the new situation. Right after I had my first daughter of my own, my mother came up for my birthday. My mom is pretty old school so when my husband's kids blew into the house coming home from school all loud and stuff she kind of bristled. The oldest left the door open for a teeny tiny bit longer than my mom would have liked with the baby in the room and snapped at the stepdaughter to close the door. The stepdaughter pulled an attitude telling my mom not to tell her what to do. Mind you this was their first meeting. My mom shut her down completely. Not that big a deal it seemed like to me but apparently my mom and my husband's two daughters were now enemies.

So a few weeks later my husband and I were out to dinner with his 2 daughters and it came up and I started to try to explain that my mom can be a bit eccentric and rough on the surface and his YOUNGEST (the one who wasn't snapped at) Told me something about my mom that I can't type here LOUDLY in the middle of the restaurant.

I was stunned at the time and didn't know how to react other than to just keep eating. My husband didn't say anything either. I thought about that moment a lot after that and it just brewed and brewed in my mind, helped along by the other crazy making antics from both of them until one day I wrote an email to The one who said it telling her that it had hurt and how I felt about it. She first said that she didn't remember saying it, then that is sounded like something her sister would say, then that if she did say it, it was probably a joke and that I should have already known that she has a rough sense of humor and that it was on me to let her know if she had said something to offend. I then told her that she was old enough to know that what she said was insulting and anyway it wasn't on me to police her behavior. Ok, I didn't see a point in trying to make her acknowledge her wrongdoing after that because I could see that she would play little miss never wrong.

For a while after that the issue was left unresolved in my mind and I told my husband that for anything concerning his kids that added to it, the cup was full, brimming at the edge and the next time they messed with me, it would overflow. He said ok.

Then his ex wife attacked a friend of mine over facebook for a joke he posted. She took it way out of context and professed to taking the moral high-ground and saying it wasn't ok to be insulting while hiding behind humor. I probably could have done this a bit better but that is when the cup overflowed. I decided to "Challenge" her proclaimed morals and see what she would say to an example of someone doing the very same thing she was protesting. The example just happened to be her daughter. So I posted the story publicly as I remembered it and asked her if it was ok. Let's just say the birth mom flew completely off the handle condemning me for daring to bring it up publicly. Told me that it wasn't the daughter I said it was at all who said it and that it was her SISTER who said it anyway. It was said as if it didn't matter what was said, but it did matter who said it. They acted like since the OLDER sister said it, it didn't matter.

I remember vividly who said it, the tone, the look in her eyes, the sneer on her lips and the venom in her voice. My husband remembers the same as I do. It is pretty hard to forget who said something like that to you and embarrasses you in public but I believe that Older sister is trying to cover for younger sister so that younger sister looks good in the eyes of her boyfriend because she is scared that he will dump her if he finds out what kind of a person she is capable of being.

The whole thing degenerated into a contest of insults between the ex wife, my husband and I until the ex wife blocked us. I felt betrayed by the older stepdaughter and told her what I felt. I told her that I knew she was covering for her sister and that at the time she was actually pretty respectful to me concerning voicing her feelings about my mom and that it had meant something to me. But now that she is so determined to take on the responsibility of the lie, she would be treated as if she actually did say the insult. I told her that I no longer considered her a friend at that point and that the ball was in her court as to how to resolve the issue. I then unfriended her from facebook. The next day me and my husband found out that most everyone on that side of his family had blocked us on facebook.

I never did hear anything from the older daughter, no defense, no confrontation, no explanation, and this is the one who threw a fit a few months before demanding to know why I had unfriended her when I hadn't and she was looking on the wrong account. Nothing. It almost seems as if she is a puppet for her mother. But she's an adult and she can make her own decisions and if she ever decides to contact us again, then we will talk.

Personally I am glad they are gone, the tension level has dropped sharply, there was a period of depression that my hubbie went through, but he holds firm that he will not accept the lying anymore and he realizes now that he was being treated like a dog and that he doesn't deserve that from his own kids.

The only thing that nags at me is what new kind of trouble will they think of causing when things finally settle down and contact is reestablished.

Thanks for reading

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Oh my what a mess.

So what the SD is having a relationship with a man twice her age. What do you care? Why you felt the need to go tattle to her dad is beyond me. Of course she’s going to resent you for doing that. It’s her life, let her deal with the consequences of the choices she makes.

Every single person in the situation is contributing to the drama. Your SD was wrong for calling your mom a name, but your mom should not have snapped at the SD when she didn’t close the bedroom door, especially since this was the first time meeting each other. Not a great way to start off.

And when your SD called your mom a name/insulted her, YOUR HUSBAND should have dealt with SD. But instead you had to send SD an email which accomplished nothing. Of course she wasn't going to admit she was wrong.

You warned your husband that your cup was brimming full and what does spineless wonder do? He says ok. Your husband’s lack of action is like someone watching a pot of water boil over and doing nothing to stop it. He just sits there and watches it burn.

Regarding the facebook fight. I don’t understand why your husband’s EXwife is still friends with him on FB, but whatever.

She attacks a friend of yours, so you respond in kind by airing your SD’s dirty laundry. You are ALL to blame. Your mom for snapping at your SD, your SD for insulting your mom, YOU for airing your SD’s dirty laundry on FB, but most importantly, YOUR HUSBAND for not putting a stop to all this.

At least the exwife had sense enough to finally block ya’ll on FB. But now the damage is done.

STOP contacting the SDs, do not engage in FB fights. If your husband wants to spend time with his daughters find somewhere else to be, go to the library, have a spa day, spend time with a friend. Take yourself out of the drama.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2013 at 8:56AM
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First of all, I agree that what I did over facebook wasn't the best of ideas and could have been done a lot better, but one cannot always make the best of decisions when stressed. I did what I did and it can't be changed.

However, the issue of His daughter dating the older man,

One she was underage, two she was living with us at the time and it wasn't acceptable or appropriate for her to be with a 37 year old when she was 16, three, her father had the right to know what she was doing and it was my responsibility to tell him. I ask you this question, how would my relationship with my husband been hurt if he found out later that I knew and didn't tell him? Also who would have been held responsible if it actually came to attention to the authorities? The man? Well yes, but also the party who is in the role of guardian (me) who had the responsibility to let her father know what was going on under his nose. If I had never found out and she had managed not to get caught in the act by me, I never would have felt the responsibility to let her father know.

It isn't as simple as "Tattling" when she is breaking the rules of the household and breaking the law, and I do understand why she reacted the way she did. I however don't have to like it or take it... I really don't care what she does with her life. Now that she is not underage and not living in the house, it doesn't matter.

As for my mother, I am not excusing or condoning her behavior, she can be pretty mean, I will not defend her actions, I was just stating what happened.

Why I sent the email, I felt obligated to try to resolve it personally before anything else. I guess I can't easily let go of an insult. It's a failing of mine. Why I finally blew it up on Facebook was a combination of resentment and frustration for how they were acting and my husband's lack of ability to stand up to them. It seemed at the time the only way to resolve it and it obviously didn't work.

Believe me, I will not be contacting any of them, I never wanted to even before the Facebook drama started but I felt that trying to ignore the insults and stealing wasn't doing a thing to help or hinder it and to change it in any way I had to act. I am really not that good at confrontations so I messed that up pretty badly.

My husband is actually doing a LOT better on the spineless wonder front, He told me that he was blinded by guilt about not being around much when they were growing up because he was in the Navy. He said that's why he let them get their way in a lot of ways when he was there and why they are used to him being the doormat. It's a shock to them that he is actually standing up for himself and I and they don't like it. He said that he still loves his girls but he will not tolerate the lies anymore.

The next time they establish contact, maybe then we can work things out like adults. However they will be treated like adults in all aspects and they may not like that.

    Bookmark   September 12, 2013 at 11:31PM
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I understand in the heat of the moment sometimes we don’t always make the best judgment calls. I’m glad you’re able to see where you did mess up. As you say, it’s in the past now and can’t be changed. The only thing you can do now is learn from your mistakes and not repeat them.

Now that you give a little more detail regarding your SD dating a 37 year old man, I understand your point as to why you felt the need to tell your husband about it. It’s sad that you knew about this but her own father for whatever reason wasn’t around enough to find this out himself. I'm glad he at least now sees he needs to stand up more to his SDs.

Regarding your working things out like adults with your SDs, remember to be treated like an adult, you have to have the mentality of an adult, and I doubt your SDs have developed that yet. Through my own experience with my MIL, I've learned that physical age has very little to do with a person's mental age. It may be you have to keep a cordial but distant relationship with them from now on.

    Bookmark   September 13, 2013 at 8:26AM
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wow, sounds dramatic.

    Bookmark   September 13, 2013 at 9:10AM
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Amyfiddler: You can say that.

Amber3902: Any relationship I have with them is going to be distant. I will be cordial to a point. I am not going to tolerate being lied to, talked down to or stolen from anymore and that will be the point in which it will cease to be cordial.

They both have demanded from me and their dad that they want to be treated like adults and the youngest has stressed that point very strongly. I will treat them as I would treat any adult as per their request. They may not realize or like the results if they pull the stuff that they pulled when they weren't adults. However if they act cordial to us, it will be reflected. Call it a learning experience, an exercise in cause and effect.

Won't have to worry about it anytime soon though, I think I've angered them good enough to stay away for quite a while. But we will take it as it comes when they cool off enough to have contact again.

    Bookmark   September 14, 2013 at 9:43PM
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