shouldn't Marvin windows/doors last more than 20 years?

gibby2015August 1, 2012

I have some Marvin swinging patio doors that started leaking at the bottom recently. These were installed when the house was built 20 years ago. I've had someone try replacing the weather stripping at the bottom but this had no impact. I'm now looking at replacing these doors. I have another older home and as we've needed to replace doors and windows I've always gone with Marvin. So far no problems but none are 20 years old yet.

I'd like to replace these leakers with Marvin sliding french doors but I find myself asking - why am I replacing a failing Marvin product with more Marvin? Could it be an installation problem? The contractor who has been working with me to fix/replace didn't mention anything looking to be wrong from that perspective.

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millworkman

Without know more about the product, how it was maintained, type construction, condition of construction, and installation it would be impossible to give you a correct and proper answer. Pictures would probably help tell us more of the story. But in a simple answer yes a properly maintained, installed product in its recommended application should last more than 20 years

    Bookmark   August 1, 2012 at 8:24PM
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HomeSealed

The leaking could be due to a variety of things and is impossible to diagnose without more info. A picture would definitely help.
On Marvin, it is definitely one of the top offerings available in wood windows/doors. That said, any wood product is going to require maintenance if you want it to last.

    Bookmark   August 1, 2012 at 9:30PM
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HomeSealed

...or in other words, ditto to mwm's comments ;)

    Bookmark   August 1, 2012 at 9:33PM
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Windows on Washington Ltd

I think is about sums up your post....

    Bookmark   August 2, 2012 at 6:41AM
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millworkman

wow, I just spit coffee thru my nose and now to clean up my computer!

    Bookmark   August 2, 2012 at 8:25AM
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HomeSealed

lol, I actually wrote that a couple hrs earlier and never hit submit, but that's ok... leave it to WoW to draw from his vast library of cuddly kitten pics ;D

    Bookmark   August 2, 2012 at 10:48AM
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gibby2015

I'll try to take some pictures and post. It's clad on the outside wood on the inside. What type of maintenance is required for this type of door? What is an incorrect application for a six foot French door with one side that opens? It seems pretty basic.

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 7:46AM
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HomeSealed

Pics would definitely help, but the primary maintenance would be to maintain the finish and seal on the wood.

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 7:53AM
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gibby2015

Okay - I think that could be part of the problem then. I think there could have been some issues with how well the hinge sides of the doors were finished initially. At this point I am planning to replace with Marvin sliding French doors and hopefully the person doing this work will get it right. What do I need to look out for?

What are your thoughts on sliding vs swinging?

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 8:57AM
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Windows on Washington Ltd

HomeSealed...are you a felinist?

That is a hate crime in today's day and age. Be aware that I may report you.

    Bookmark   August 3, 2012 at 9:01AM
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WindowDog

With doors you want to make sure that the threshold of the door is set in sealant and sits solidly on the sub-floor. It's common for this to not be the case, and eventually the threshold bows down and creates a gap where dirt collects and holds moisture. Don't know if this is what happened to you, but it's something to watch for.

And like the other guys said, make sure that the bottom of the door itself is sealed properly from the get go. Also, personally, it doesn't hurt to remove the hinges and seal behind them as well.

    Bookmark   August 4, 2012 at 11:57PM
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brickeyee

New windows more than 20 years?

You must be kidding.

    Bookmark   August 5, 2012 at 11:06AM
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eastbay10

Gibby - To answer your question of swinging vs. sliding, there is no difference with Marvin as far as design pressure (performance) is concerned. There are more moving parts on the swinging doors thus, more to go wrong down the road.
As for the leak on your existing door, where is the water coming in? That can usually indicate if it is product or installation issue. Highly unusual for a door to remain dry for nineteen years and then suddenly leak without something happening (broken door sweep, etc..

    Bookmark   August 5, 2012 at 2:12PM
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