Here is a link that might be useful: MI Windows Class Action
If this is true, I hope these homeowners receive justice. This is also another example of why those of us who have been around recommend the products we are familiar with. This will also serve as. Reference for the next person who comes on here and starts arguing that all windows are the same and the lowest price is the best buy because it has a lifetime warranty and they sell it at Orange or Blue.
Well said John. I am sorry to see any company (more specifically the employees that work for said company) go out of business.
You are 100% correct that we make the recommendations that we make for a reason.
I wish them luck in weathering what will likely prove to be and expensive lawsuit.
MI is a big enough company to survive this. They will come out a better company more focused on quality design and implementation in the manufacturing process.
I was on a job yesterday with 19 yr. old MI vinyl. they looked terrible, exterior faded badly, but only a few failed sash plus 2 door panels. I was surprised by that.
MI should survive simply because there is a huge demand for low quality windows that are used in rental properties.. i guarantee this will still not deter some homeowners from just going with the cheapest window and trying to convince themselves all vinyl windows are equal.
by the way, MI Windows make certainteed bryn mawr windows as well so be careful out there. there are tons of " jack of all trades" contractors pushingbthese cheap windows just so they have enough money to buy a few cases of beer. we call silverline windows " beer windows " because of the low skilled contractors that use them.
It's our job to try and educate consumers to the differences between the better brands and the junk. I know full well how frustrating that can be with some people who think you are just trying to sell them a more expensive window so you will ake more money. The truth is, it's easier to make a larger profit margin on cheap windows than it is on the better brands. But, that's OK. I sleep better at night knowing my customers have a quality window and that we did an excellent job installing them.
I have never had a customer tell me 5 years later that they felt the windows we sold them weren't worth paying a little more. I have however, had then tell me stories about how unhappy their friends were with XYZ Windows or XXX Contractor.
It is easy to question a quality window sales model when your competitors in every direction around are selling junk and undercutting you with the price only shopper.
That being said, there is a reason that we choose the windows and the labor force that we do.
What little sleep I do get is not disturbed by any guilt to be certain.
I'm in Michigan and just considering the window replacement process. We have builder grade windows now (house built in 1999). They have rust between the glass panels, and the 1/2 round upstairs keeps condensation in it. We need colors - DH won't go with white as our house is tans. Have no idea what companies to look at.
You have one of the best vinyl window manufacturers in Temperance, MI. called Sunrise Windows. I would recommend checking them out. You should also be able to get Softlite/Gorell.
Here is a link that might be useful: Sunrise Windows
Sunrise is right at the top of the 5 best vinyl in my opinion. Can't go wrong there.
Thanks Eco and Windows. I looked at the Sunrise website. Wouldn't mind an estimate from them if we decide to go with vinyl. I've looked through this forum and it seems Marvin Integrity is pretty highly recommended. I'd like to see those too. Would still like to hear from Ribs. Thanks!
If you are looking at fiberglass, I would look into InLine as well.
Thanks for the tip on Inline. Looking at their website. How do you find great installers for these in the area? Any tips on that?
Give Inline a call and ask for Mark Bartolini. 416-679-1171 xt-261
Tell him John w/EcoStar Remodeling in Virginia told you to call. He should be able to connect you wih an Inline dealer.
Thanks John. I got a quote from a company last night who said they are the exclusive Inline dealer/installer in my area. I left a voicemail for Mark this morning verifying that. I liked the windows he showed us, although I really wanted brushed nickel hardware and the dealer didn't think it was avaiable. We have a Marvin dealer coming next week for an estimate.
I think he is correct on this one.
I think InLine on has the brass option right now.
There's a large development in Havre de Grace Maryland. A golfing community, that is full of MI leaking windows. It leaks right through the glazing tape. We just caulk where the glass meets the plastic, Andersen calls it a fillet bead.