Bad News for MI Windows

websnooperAugust 23, 2012
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EcoStarRemodel

If this is true, I hope these homeowners receive justice. This is also another example of why those of us who have been around recommend the products we are familiar with. This will also serve as. Reference for the next person who comes on here and starts arguing that all windows are the same and the lowest price is the best buy because it has a lifetime warranty and they sell it at Orange or Blue.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 1:46PM
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Windows on Washington

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Well said John. I am sorry to see any company (more specifically the employees that work for said company) go out of business.

You are 100% correct that we make the recommendations that we make for a reason.

I wish them luck in weathering what will likely prove to be and expensive lawsuit.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 2:47PM
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EcoStarRemodel

MI is a big enough company to survive this. They will come out a better company more focused on quality design and implementation in the manufacturing process.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 2:52PM
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Jumpilotmdm

I was on a job yesterday with 19 yr. old MI vinyl. they looked terrible, exterior faded badly, but only a few failed sash plus 2 door panels. I was surprised by that.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 3:24PM
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mmarse1

MI should survive simply because there is a huge demand for low quality windows that are used in rental properties.. i guarantee this will still not deter some homeowners from just going with the cheapest window and trying to convince themselves all vinyl windows are equal.
by the way, MI Windows make certainteed bryn mawr windows as well so be careful out there. there are tons of " jack of all trades" contractors pushingbthese cheap windows just so they have enough money to buy a few cases of beer. we call silverline windows " beer windows " because of the low skilled contractors that use them.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 4:04PM
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EcoStarRemodel

It's our job to try and educate consumers to the differences between the better brands and the junk. I know full well how frustrating that can be with some people who think you are just trying to sell them a more expensive window so you will ake more money. The truth is, it's easier to make a larger profit margin on cheap windows than it is on the better brands. But, that's OK. I sleep better at night knowing my customers have a quality window and that we did an excellent job installing them.

I have never had a customer tell me 5 years later that they felt the windows we sold them weren't worth paying a little more. I have however, had then tell me stories about how unhappy their friends were with XYZ Windows or XXX Contractor.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 5:03PM
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Windows on Washington

+1

It is easy to question a quality window sales model when your competitors in every direction around are selling junk and undercutting you with the price only shopper.

That being said, there is a reason that we choose the windows and the labor force that we do.

What little sleep I do get is not disturbed by any guilt to be certain.

    Bookmark   August 23, 2012 at 6:13PM
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Debbi Branka

I'm in Michigan and just considering the window replacement process. We have builder grade windows now (house built in 1999). They have rust between the glass panels, and the 1/2 round upstairs keeps condensation in it. We need colors - DH won't go with white as our house is tans. Have no idea what companies to look at.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 10:37AM
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EcoStarRemodel

You have one of the best vinyl window manufacturers in Temperance, MI. called Sunrise Windows. I would recommend checking them out. You should also be able to get Softlite/Gorell.

Here is a link that might be useful: Sunrise Windows

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 2:12PM
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Sunrise is right at the top of the 5 best vinyl in my opinion. Can't go wrong there.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 2:26PM
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Debbi Branka

Thanks Eco and Windows. I looked at the Sunrise website. Wouldn't mind an estimate from them if we decide to go with vinyl. I've looked through this forum and it seems Marvin Integrity is pretty highly recommended. I'd like to see those too. Would still like to hear from Ribs. Thanks!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 2:34PM
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If you are looking at fiberglass, I would look into InLine as well.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 6:17PM
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Debbi Branka

Thanks for the tip on Inline. Looking at their website. How do you find great installers for these in the area? Any tips on that?

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 6:25PM
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EcoStarRemodel

Give Inline a call and ask for Mark Bartolini. 416-679-1171 xt-261

Tell him John w/EcoStar Remodeling in Virginia told you to call. He should be able to connect you wih an Inline dealer.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2012 at 7:13PM
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Debbi Branka

Thanks John. I got a quote from a company last night who said they are the exclusive Inline dealer/installer in my area. I left a voicemail for Mark this morning verifying that. I liked the windows he showed us, although I really wanted brushed nickel hardware and the dealer didn't think it was avaiable. We have a Marvin dealer coming next week for an estimate.

    Bookmark   September 7, 2012 at 9:21AM
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Windows on Washington

I think he is correct on this one.

I think InLine on has the brass option right now.

    Bookmark   September 8, 2012 at 10:07AM
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jocobe

There's a large development in Havre de Grace Maryland. A golfing community, that is full of MI leaking windows. It leaks right through the glazing tape. We just caulk where the glass meets the plastic, Andersen calls it a fillet bead.

    Bookmark   September 8, 2012 at 10:43PM
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