Moving doorbell transformer box-How difficult?

lsstFebruary 4, 2009

Our doorbell wired transformer box is right beside the front door and I would like to move it about 2 feet over. It is on an exterior wall and the wiring runs below the floor in the crawl space. I would like to move it to a room about 2 feet away on the same wall.

Is this a difficult thing? I have basic wiring skills.

I do have a wonderful electrician but do not want to bother him if this is a minor thing.

My main concern is that the wiring is probably cut for that location and I may not have enough wiring to move it.

If so, could I do a j-box in the crawl space and add more wiring from there and fish the line up to the new location?

Thanks in advance!

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heimert

If you can fish the wire, it should not be a big deal. But you'll have to fish two wires, if I understand what you're saying--the 120v to the transformer and the 16v (or whatever) for the bell wire. Other than that, this is no more difficult than wiring an outlet--just match up the wires to the same screws.

    Bookmark   February 4, 2009 at 5:56PM
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btharmy

Why not just leave it in the crawl if you have to go down there to move it anyway? Then it is out of sight.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2009 at 5:15PM
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lsst

The transformer has the sound with it. If I move it to the crawl space, I will not be able to hear it.
I am thinking I may move it to an interior wall as fishing would be much easier. Also, the wall I am thinking of moving it to may not require I add more wire.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2009 at 6:02PM
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lsst

I went down to the crawlspace and the transformer is there beside a j-box with the electrical wire.

I had my terminology wrong. What I would like to move is the box with the bell (Chime) sound. The box is right beside my front door about 8 feet high on the wall.

Other than sound transmission, is there any reason why the bell (Chime) box is usually installed fairly high on a wall?

I want to place panel moulding on that wall and the box is right in the middle of it.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   February 5, 2009 at 7:07PM
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btharmy

OK, so you are moving the chime, not the transformer. Got it. With a roll of bell wire (very in-expensive) you can easily move it anywhere you want. They are mounted up high to remain out of sight as much as possible and not in the way of pictures, shelves or whatever else you might put on a wall. J-box is optional for low voltage like a door bell. Some small wire nuts and a few wraps of tape and you are good to go.

    Bookmark   February 5, 2009 at 7:21PM
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lsst

btharmy,
Thanks!

    Bookmark   February 5, 2009 at 11:15PM
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lsst

It turns out, I will just have to reroute the low voltage wiring.
Does low voltage wiring by code require an electrical box inside the wall or can it be run straight from the wall to the chime box?

Thanks!

    Bookmark   February 7, 2009 at 5:26PM
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pjb999

I'm not exactly sure, but I think it's a good idea. I think if you delve into it, lv wiring still needs access to splices, and it is of course a/c anyway so is considered part of the household wiring, as is the wiring for built-in vacs. Even alarm system wiring is governed by the electrical codes in terms of how the wires are run and where the splices go. (note that I am citing Canadian rules but I am fairly certain they're the same) , in case the splice goes bad. Would it look terrible to have a blank cover plate over it?

If you go ahead with it, you'll want what's called a "remodel box" or "old work box," it's an electrical junction box that will grip the drywall so you can cut a hole for it, push it into the wall, do up the clips or whatever it has, and then you can put a cover plate on it. You could probably bring both wires in through one knockout, and use wire nuts to join them.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2009 at 7:15PM
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lsst

Thanks for the reply.
It will not have to be spliced but will come straight from the transformer to the chime box. It will not require wire nuts.
I do have an extra single gang old wire box I can use.
The reason I asked was that I did a google search on replacing a chime box and the electrician used LV coming out of a hole in the wall instead of an electrical box. The code may have changed since then and I want to make sure I am up to code.

Thanks!

    Bookmark   February 7, 2009 at 7:22PM
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rjoh878646

low voltage wire does not require a electrical box. Just pull it out a hole in the wall. You will not need wire nuts as it terminates to screws on the transformer and chime. I believe chimes are usually mounted high on the wall to be unobtrusive.

    Bookmark   February 7, 2009 at 9:08PM
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pjb999

That's true, if there are no splices, out of the wall is fine.

    Bookmark   February 8, 2009 at 2:59AM
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barkri12

As a Decorator and Home Staging Specialist I spend a lot of time shopping in general, particularly for great buys on a website called Craigslist.org for my clients too, but mostly for myself. It provides the ability for buyers and sellers to come together like eBay does, without the need for auctions or any fees. It is all done locally, so there usually isn't any shipping involved.

It's amazing to see how quickly Craigslist has taken off in so many major and minor cities. Daily there are free items up for grabs, listings for garage sales and any items from artwork and bedding to cars, appliances and clothing! It truly is a great way to save money and recycle, so you're helping the planet too with fewer items in landfills!

As with most things in life, there is a certain level of etiquette that needs to be adhered to for all to be happy in the world of online selling and buying. Below I've listed some guidelines for both buyers and sellers.

Here is a link that might be useful: Packing And Moving Tips

    Bookmark   March 24, 2009 at 1:41AM
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lsst

HUH?????????????????????
If I ever decide to move, I think I will leave the transformer box on the wall. LOL

Has any one else noticed the increased level of spam on this site?

    Bookmark   March 24, 2009 at 10:29AM
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andrelaplume2

just found Craigslist...welcome to the 21st century!

    Bookmark   March 24, 2009 at 12:22PM
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barkri12

As a Decorator and Home Staging Specialist I spend a lot of time shopping in general, particularly for great buys on a website called Craigslist.org for my clients too, but mostly for myself. It provides the ability for buyers and sellers to come together like eBay does, without the need for auctions or any fees. It is all done locally, so there usually isn't any shipping involved.

It's amazing to see how quickly Craigslist has taken off in so many major and minor cities. Daily there are free items up for grabs, listings for garage sales and any items from artwork and bedding to cars, appliances and clothing! It truly is a great way to save money and recycle, so you're helping the planet too with fewer items in landfills!

As with most things in life, there is a certain level of etiquette that needs to be adhered to for all to be happy in the world of online selling and buying. Below I've listed some guidelines for both buyers and sellers.

Sellers:

You've decided to do a little 'spring cleaning' and have several items you want to post. Setting up an account is very easy and fast. It allows you to edit your posting later if needed, add/remove photos and re-post days later again if necessary until sold.

  1. When posting an item or grouping of items be sure to provide photos (if possible) and provide an accurate description including whether the items are new, new in box, gently used or very worn. If you are misleading, the buyer can refuse the item when they see it, and that just wastes everyone's time.
  2. Pricing your items can be tricky. The object of Craigslist is to sell items at a reasonable price, similar to a garage sale but not necessarily as low. Feel free to list what you paid for the item, what it is selling for new and provide a link to compare so your price really stands out. This is not generally the place to sell a $5,000 sofa or period piece. It's not impossible, but those are the posts that I see up for several months often with no sale-an antique store would be more suitable for those items. Ensure you add the words "Serious inquiries only please" at the bottom of your posting. I find this minimized the amount of bogus calls and emails that come my way.

Here is a link that might be useful: moving box kit

    Bookmark   March 30, 2009 at 3:39AM
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