Help I need orange paint color...but I am scared! (Pic Heavy))

haley_cometAugust 27, 2009

So I purchased this piece of art on the weekend and now it is my color inspiration for my kitchen and dining area new paint. I love the picture and the warmth it will bring to the room.

My dining room and kitchen flow with each but at the same time are 2 semi-defined spaces.

I would like the dining area (see pics) to be an orange, rusty, coppery feel but a couple years ago I painted my bedroom orange and I picked the WRONG ORANGE and it totally looked like a bad Halloween day , really bad, so I am sooooo paranoid to pick a color - pay the money, do the work and have it go bad again. I have been looking at these paint swatches for days so I thought I would reach out to all of you for your suggestions. Do you know of a really nice orange I could use?

I was thinking along the swatch of BM - Pilgramage Foliage, DM Rust, or BM Aztec Brick...something like those. I looked at BM Buttered Yam thought maybe it was too light? Audobon Russet to me just looked browny red - even though online ppl talk of it as an orange? I just looking for something copper/rusty - rather then tangerine orangey.

For the kitchen area I am thinking of Decature Buff - BM or Dark Beige BM - but I am open to hearing any other suggestions from you.

Thanks for your thoughts!!! I will post after pictures.

Sorry if this is long.

I have access to BM, BEHR and CIL paints.

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rockmanor

Sorry I'm not familiar with your specific colors (& I only have a SW fandeck) but I want to encourage you to go with your desire for a copper color for your kitchen. I think it would look wonderful. Also, selfishly, I want to see the after photos...I'm on the fence about using orange in our house. ;-) I want to try it, but haven't yet found the right one.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 11:41AM
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awm03

Looks to me like several of those paint chip colors could work. Do you not like any of them?

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:10PM
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colorblind1961

HC - I LOVE orange's, russets and coppers - I have them throughout my home. Here is a picture of my kitchen which is painted a Behr color called "Grounded." It actually appears much more muted in person.

...and here's another one:

Good luck picking a color!

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:12PM
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readerlearner

Really nice painting, can you please tell me about it? I wondered what color you decided to paint. So you have decided to paint the two room different colors? Why? That BM - Pilgramage Foliage is pretty. But I think if it were me I would take the painting to a good paint store and have them help you match a color in the painting.
I did find a post in the kitchen forum by reedrune that painted his/her kitchen in BM Buttered Yam. It doesn't look to light on her walls. Sorry I don't know how to do a link.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:20PM
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awm03

colorblind, that's very nice!

Just wanted to remind haley_comet to look at the oranges thread over in the gallery.

Here is a link that might be useful: Gallery link to orange photos

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:20PM
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readerlearner

colorblind1961, you don't look color blind VERY NICE. I like all the colors I can see, will you show more on another thread please?

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:27PM
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parma42

Buttered Yam looked beautiful in a pic I saw in the Gallery.

I just looked up the LRV and it's 24. That makes it plenty deep.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:39PM
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haley_comet

AWM - I do actually like a few of them - but I liked the last orange swatch I painted with LOL and that turned out soooo bad! lol I don't trust my 'orange picking abilities' anymore!

Colorblind - very nice colors! Thanks for the pictures really beautiful.

Readerlearner - Oddly I can't tell you much about the painting. I was driving my daughter to a party on the weekend and someone had it for sale at thier garage sale and I just had to stop! I bought it for $3.00! What a surprize find. Yes I did decide on the two colors for the two spaces this time just to add some variation. Plus beside my kitchen is my mudroom which I will pull the kitchen paint into so doing 2 colors won't make the area seem too over drawn with one color.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:40PM
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awm03

You certainly picked out a beauty of a painting, haley. I'll bet your eye for orange is better than you think :)

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 12:45PM
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san37

We did BM Pilgrim Foliage in our dining room and then did a BM match of Glidden's Boujour Beige for our foyer and kitchen. Our home is very open so it blends well. Still working on the my renovation so no pictures as of yet.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 2:03PM
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readerlearner

Boy am I jeolous, $3.00, hey if it doesn't work in the scheme of things, I will take it off of your hands! Well that makes sence with two colors then, I didn't know there was a mud room and could see very little wall for the kitchen, and thought why have to buy and decide on two paint colors. I wish someone with photoshop experience would come and help you.

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 2:10PM
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mimi_2006

I could see a rusty color pulled from the picture in the kitchen/mud room then go with more of a warm beige or gold in the dining room, pulling a color from the painting again. Then you can bring the rust accents into the dining room with the painting, place mats, centerpiece, etc. I think the darker color in the kitchen would be a great contrast with your cabinets. It's hard to see what your floor is though. I love that painting, those are my favorite family of colors. Beautiful :-)

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haley_comet

Parma - can you tell me how you found the LRV of Buttered Yam. I would like to look up some other colors too. Thanks

AWM - thanks so much!!

San37 - Oh boy wish you had pictures! Over all you are happy with Pilgram Foliage and it is a nice orangy color?

Readerlearner - hehe thanks.

Mimi - I also thought that at first - to flip the colors but the orange I am thinking about is pretty 'in your face' kinda color and the mud room entrance is used alot by our guests and just wanted a more subtle entry color.

So would you all see Decatur Buff as a 'warm color'? The chip is a little hard to gage? Looking for a mid toned warm golden tan/coffee type color..not too light...not too dark. Decatur in photos on web is really nice...but trying to gage color IRL.

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parma42

"Parma - can you tell me how you found the LRV of Buttered Yam. I would like to look up some other colors too. Thanks "

Just Google the name of a paint color, in quotes (it's easier), and LRV. "Buttered Yam" LRV

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 4:25PM
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mom2reese

oooh, what a beautiful painting!

I love the idea of the orange, but I would be concerned that your painting would lose its impact on an orange wall, especially since your furniture is also in the orange range.

Would you consider doing the Decatur Buff/Dark Beige in the dining room and then using the orange paint in the kitchen? This would really bring the two spaces together but also let your painting shine and set the mood for the dining room.

Just a thought!

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 6:18PM
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Lori A. Sawaya

Do you know of a really nice orange I could use?
Ralph Lauren Tapestry NA25

    Bookmark   August 27, 2009 at 6:52PM
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loribee

It looks like your kitchen curtains match the painting perfectly and the rooms will flow nicely!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 6:39AM
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san37

I will take pictures this weekend and post -- that is, if you will excuse the mess -- to show you the contrast. It is not real orangy -- it is deeper and definitely not a Halloween orange more of a "mature" orange. (LOL) I'm pleased with it.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 9:56AM
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andee_gw

I agree with mom2reese about the painting losing its impact on an orange wall. I'd use something more subdued. I have BM Sea Urchin in a room that has orange accents in the fabric. I don't know how the name relates to the color; it went on the wall too orange (and I nearly had a heart attack) but dried to a bit browner/sandy color.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 10:30AM
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peaches12345

I was going to reply exactly as mom2reese did. I would put one of the beige/gold colors from the painting on the walls in the dining room to make your gorgeous painting really pop and stand out. And then a rust or orange in the kitchen tying it all together. I think you will lose a lot of the drama of the painting if you put the more vivid paint in the dining room. It will fade right into the wall rather than stand out.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 10:35AM
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Circus Peanut

I have BM buttered yam in my dining room and LOVE it. It is certainly not too light. Very yummy color. I'll try to hunt down a photo for you --

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 10:57AM
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haley_comet

San37 - thanks I would love to see a picture! Does this color sometimes seem on the reddish side to you? Or when it is on there is no doubt it is orange.

Circus Peant - to you also thank you I would like to see a photo, perhaps I am miss judging the color.

Orginally I thought of doing the orange in the kitchen but then decided to pull the mudroom into the mix and paint it too. Below is a picture of the mudroom you can see it is pretty narrow and does not get alot of light. For some reason my guests like to enter by this door and I thought maybe the orange would be too much of a smack in your face kinda color for them to walk into? It is true what you all are saying...I will lose the painting on the orange wall...omg so confused!

Thanks everyone for your posts thus far!

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 11:20AM
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teacats

How about:

BM "Earthly Russet" -- rich brown/orange that is the color of baked pumpkin pie (BM 2173-10)

And:

SW "Spicy Hue" #6342
SW "Roycroft Copper Red" #2839
SW "Gingery" #6363
SW "Yam" #6643
SW "Copper Mountain" #6356

Jan at Rosemary Cottage

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 11:42AM
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charleney

What Teacats say's. I am going to paint one 12' wall with SW Copper Mountain. And rest of sunny walls SW Lemon Grass.

If you go to Sherwin Williams site..they have Rooms and samples that you can click and drag. What a fantastic resource that is. I can spend hours painting and repainting my walls there. Good Luck

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 12:54PM
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awm03

Haley_c, what's the lighting like in your DR? Do you have a large window in there? I was thinking a warm brown would look lovely as a foil for your painting and your furniture. Could look nice with morning or afternoon sunlight and romantic at night.

Here's a crude mock-up using a rusty color. Hope this helps.

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awm03

Here's a brown. It lets the painting and the furniture do the orange glow thing. I like it! Maybe needs a tad warmer brown.

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teacats

JUST a stray thought that flitted through my brain ....

How about painting your kitchen island in the dark rich brown ..... and the dining room in the orange?

Or perhaps .... the other way around?? The island painted in the dark orange? And the dining room in the rich brown??

Jan at rosemary Cottage

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 2:05PM
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nodakgal

This is Valspar Medallion Burnt Umber, the tan is City BLock. I love the Burnt Umber!! It looks more muted IRL a rusty clay orange.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 2:09PM
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haley_comet

Thanks Everyone!

Jan/Teacats - thank you I am going to check my swatches for the Earthly Russet color you mentioned.

AWM - THANKS! That is so cool to see it visually. Thanks for taking the time to do that for me. Wow you threw me for a loop with that brown....it is BEAUTIFUL! The art and the lighting really pop.

Nodakgal - thanks for the pic - beautiful color.

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 2:55PM
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awm03

Hi haley_c, glad you like the brown too. Link below to a larger picture so you can get a better idea of how the colors work together.

Here is a link that might be useful: bigger brown picture

    Bookmark   August 28, 2009 at 3:46PM
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elle3

Ooo, I just painted my fireplace wall in my den the most wonderful shade of brown. It's called SW Toasty. It's a little lighter than the brown above and would look stunning with your artwork.
If I can find my camera I'll take a pic for you.

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 4:45PM
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awm03

I looked around for examples of SW Toasty, and boy, is it ever a beautiful brown:

So is SW Coconut Husk:

Hmmm...now what can I paint brown in my home?

(Hope haley doesn't mind the brown discussion!)

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 8:29PM
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beachlily z9a

I'm in FL and brown is so out of it! I'm into golds, aquas, and other colors that lift the sole. Out of step, but happy about it! Why paint brown and gray when the outdoor colors tend to decrease light and provide gloom? Don't understand it!

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 9:13PM
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awm03

Maybe because colors that look great in FL look so out of it in other parts of the country? I moved from NOLA to Connecticut years ago. What worked in strong, bright subtropical light there didn't cut it here with our forested shady summers and cool lighting. I then understood the "colonial" palette you see in historical paints: the strong, muted colors work really well here (but look lousy in NOLA & probably in FL too). They look good in autumn, provide cheer in winter, and are cool & colorful in summer.

Browns can be shady & cool in summer, yet look cozy & warm in cold weather months. Not gloomy at all.

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 9:47PM
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repaintingagain

We painted our kitchen an orange color. The color is absolutely beautiful, but in the end I repainted the kitchen because the orange just did not flow well into the family room. (essentially the kitchen and family share one wall and I could not get over seeing 2 drastically different colors). But as oranges go...this one is beautiful. It is C2 paint, not sure if you can get your hands on it or the sample. But if there is a C2 dealer in your area, give it a try.

C2 paint has incredible pigments that really help to make a color like orange have depth that a different paint brand may not do as well with .

The color name is: C2 Cognac

Here is a picture of the color:

Sherwin Williams has a color called Earthen Jug, that is very similar to C2 Cognac - but different enough, that I wouldn't be able to say how it would look on a wall.

Another color - slightly less dramatic, but still beautiful that I have used with success (and did not repaint) is C2 Gingersnap.

Here is a link that might be useful: C2 Paints

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 10:31PM
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repaintingagain

And here are some pictures of Gingersnap, which is a color that is slightly less dramatic than C2 Cognac.

However, the Gingersnap looks much more "maroon" in these pictures than it actually did when we lived with it.

Also, (back to the C2 Cognac), the thing that I really liked about the Cognac is that it looked like a spice on the wall - a little brown, a little orange. I think it does hit the nail with the rusty, coppery color you are looking for. I received many comments about the depth and beauty of this color. It just didn't work in my space.

I did have SW make a match of the C2 Cognac because we moved into an area where there are no C2 paint dealers.

If you would like, I can dig out the code and you could have Sherwin Williams make this up in the $5 try it on the walls container. That way you can see it in real life and not have spent too much money or time painting and then decide. Also, another way to go, would be to order a large paper swatch of C2 cognac (they are very nice and large) and have it mailed to your home. Then you can go to your local SW and have them make a match (or use my code).

I highly suggest this orange, only because a decorator told me about the color and it truly is a fantastic color and I think it is what you are looking for.

Okay, I think I might be sounding pushy about this color (sorry if I am), so here are the gingersnap pictures and I'll stop about the Cognac! :-)

    Bookmark   August 29, 2009 at 10:57PM
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msrose

I definitely see Decatur Buff as a warm color and I think it would look great in your kitchen.

Laurie

    Bookmark   August 30, 2009 at 6:34AM
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haley_comet

Oh ya SW Toasty is such a nice warm brown!

I love browns...I am not a fan of greys in my home but have seen it in others that has been nice. I am just drawn to the warmer colors which I see browns falling into.
I deffinately aggree different areas and lightings highlight some colors beautifully and others not so much.

Repaintingagain - (great name!) thanks for the pictures that is a nice orange Cognac. I don't believe I have access to C2 paints as I dont' think I have heard of it before. Not sure if it is sold in my area (I am in Canada)but I am going to double check. I really do like the color very much - like you said it has a little bit of everything.
**cool I checked the C2 web site and they are sold in my area - I think I will go and check out their swatches. Thanks I will look further into this.

AWM - thanks for posting the pictures...they are so nice. I think I maybe getting vetoed on the brown from the family for the kitchen but I think I may have another room in mind for it.. ;)

    Bookmark   August 30, 2009 at 11:56AM
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awm03

" I think I maybe getting vetoed on the brown from the family ..."

I hear ya. Our foyer is the perfect place for brown: loads of light, lots of white trim, light colored floor. But DH makes a gagging sound whenever he sees the brown paint samples on the wall there.

    Bookmark   August 30, 2009 at 1:03PM
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newdawn1895

Funcolors is an expert when it comes to paint colors.

    Bookmark   August 30, 2009 at 5:10PM
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moremoremore

Gosh...maybe it's me but I'm not loving the orange....

I think the color you have (or maybe a more gold green) looks great in both rooms.

I would leave the green and hang the painting as a nice contrast. To tie it in, I'd get a taller and more striking valance in the kitchen keeping those orange/gold colors...then I'd get orange/brown/green placements and a gold centerpiece...

Just my 2 cents....

Painting the rest of the room orange will take away from the painting instead of making it pop...

    Bookmark   August 30, 2009 at 6:10PM
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yogacat

Count me among those who think that orange will overpower your picture. Also, keep in mind that orange is used in fast food restaurants to stimulate appetite and get people outta there fast. I prefer more subtle colors in a dining room because I like to linger and chat.

Entryways and mudrooms are great places for strong colors because one doesn't spend a lot of time there. I don't have any suggestions in the paint brands you listed, but I really liked the mudroom someone did awhile back in Ellen Kennon's Pumpkin Spice. I can't find the thread for some reason, but one of the pictures is on Ellen Kennon's web site. It might be something you could use for inspiration.

    Bookmark   August 30, 2009 at 6:39PM
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haley_comet

Well my painting is complete. Thanks to those who gave me some insight on colors I really appreciate it.

As promised here are my final pictures - I am not 100% complete with the picture placements, curtains ect but thought I would share anyways.

Colors
"Falling Leaves" Behr Paint and Primer
"Ginger Root" BM color mixed in Behr Paint.

Colors photo a little more vibrant then IRL.

Again thanks for answering my plea for color help!
Haley

    Bookmark   September 14, 2009 at 8:10PM
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awm03

Oh haley! That is a BEAUTIFUL color! I love it! My goodness that is pretty...

    Bookmark   September 14, 2009 at 8:17PM
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awm03

The kitchen too :)

    Bookmark   September 14, 2009 at 8:19PM
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awm03

Coming back for a second look -- it's sooo pretty. Did you carry the Ginger Root into the mudroom? And did you do your own painting? If so, you did a great job.

    Bookmark   September 14, 2009 at 8:43PM
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haley_comet

Thanks AWM!!!! I am so glad you like it.

Yes I did carry the Ginger Root into the mudroom. It is a little darker in the room than I thought but at the same time it is a really warm feeling when you walk in. Ginger Root has a real 'Tuscan' feel which I do love.

Before

After

Thanks yes I did do the painting myself- I actually really enjoy painting but I was sure achey when I finished this job.

    Bookmark   September 14, 2009 at 9:08PM
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awm03

I just can't get over how beautiful your rooms came out. I like the Ginger Root better than the color I chose for my foyer to go with my pumpkin living room. The can of paint is still sitting in the basement as I was planning on painting the foyer this week. Wonder if I should return it...

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haley_comet

AWM - what's the name of the paint color you chose for your foyer?

    Bookmark   September 14, 2009 at 9:35PM
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awm03

It's Farrow & Ball Olive. I lost sleep last night for pondering over "Ginger Root or Olive? Olive or Ginger Root?" I've been trying to decide on a color scheme since January, thought I'd settled on one, and now you come along with your darn Ginger Root - LOL!

    Bookmark   September 15, 2009 at 9:00AM
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cam14

Your rooms turned out beautiful! You did a great job:)A little late now but I painted our foyer and laundry room SW 6347 Chrysanthemum satin finish.

    Bookmark   September 15, 2009 at 9:48AM
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ttodd

Wow you paint fast! I didn't even recognize it as the same house at first! I thought someone was posting more color suggestions. Looks great and I love the picture!

    Bookmark   September 15, 2009 at 10:31AM
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kmcg85

Love, love, love the colors you settled on. Absolutely beautiful, rich colors! For anyone else considering orangey colors, HB this month features 2 pages of designers favorite oranges. Thought of this post when I saw it.

    Bookmark   September 17, 2009 at 2:49PM
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haley_comet

Thanks everyone for your kind posts. So far I like it too...I am still trying to get use to the orange since it is a little different then I 'visioned' in my mind which is my own fault for not buying paint testers and just using the swatch.
It does make me feel good to hear you all like it.

Kmcg - Thanks! I would have loved to see that HB feature....it would have helped but I will still check it out as I am curious now what they say.

Thanks Cam14 and ttodd for your posts!

AWM - I have had many of those crazy nights of thinking about paint...my husband thinks I am nuts! LOL I am sure you will love your paint!

    Bookmark   September 17, 2009 at 7:59PM
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readerlearner

Bumping for desertsteph

    Bookmark   October 9, 2009 at 10:24AM
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cosgrovepj

Hi Haley Comet,

I absolutely love the green paint in you kitchen (before painting), By the way, I love the fall colors you painted as well...just beautiful. Can you tell me the name of the green paint that was in your kitchen? It is the exact shade I have been looking for to paint my kitchen. Thanks for any help with this.

    Bookmark   November 11, 2009 at 10:52PM
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kimmieb

Maybe this link can help to House Beautiful magazine's website:

12 Best Shades of Orange

http://www.housebeautiful.com/decorating/colors/orange-paint

I'm scared of dark colors too because repainting is such a pain. I think I read somewhere recently that when chosing dark colors pick one you like on the color card and then move to the next lighter color on the card and test that one. I think that might be good advice. Don't know for sure. Has anyone else ever read that?

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Lori A. Sawaya

Yeah, I can splain' it if you want me to. Won't be short tho.

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RoseAbbey

funcolors, please give us a paint lesson.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2009 at 7:24AM
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haley_comet

Hi All

Cosgrovepj the green color in my kitchen (post paint) is called Cactus Park by CIL - very nice green. I received a ton of compliments on it from guests. Hope you have CIL in your area.

Kimmie I totally area about picking your color then going one shade lighter - I have read this also. I find in my experience I almost always prefer the wet paint color to the darker dried color which to me proves I should be going one shade lighter then my swatch color choice.

I REALLY REALLY hate to type this and my husband REALLY REALLY hated hearing this the other day but I think the orange it too orange for me and I may repaint! LOL. I love the color so much it really is a beautiful orange but after awhile it is a little 'much'. Mind you my husband loves it so much (or maybe he is saying that to stop more painting! LOL). This is my third attempt to find a nice orange I love and my third failure...I think I will just become a neutral color girl... I see oranges I adore in other ppls homes but I never get it right in my home.

C'est La Vie...I guess.

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deniseandspike

On my monitor the orange looks beautiful! I hope you think it over a while longer and decide to keep it.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2009 at 10:01AM
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awm03

Darn -- and you've worked so hard to find the right color, haley_c, sorry this one didn't work out either. Hope you find true love in the near future!

    Bookmark   November 12, 2009 at 10:22AM
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Lori A. Sawaya

roseabbey,

The 'one up' thing doesn't always apply to the way paint works present day -- because paint color strips are not all created equal. Back in the day, there was a lot more consistency and 'one up' kinda sorta could really mean something.

Now-a-days if you go one shade lighter, it's a real possibility that it's not the same color that you initially chose. A lighter color, yes, but very characteristically different than the darker color on the strip.

Not all paint color strips are the same - these days they're arranged in all sorts of ways. Sometimes, 'one up' is a viable option because the strip really is a progression of color arranged lighter to darker. Oftentimes, that's not the case. The strip is comprised of anywhere from five to seven colors that can be very similar, but are essentially different colors.

The way to manage and determine what is too dark, too light or just right is primarily by using LRV. Light Reflectance Value. The number is a consistent piece of data that tells you a lot about how light or how dark a color can look/feel. LRV is especially useful if you have paid attention to it over time and have benchmarks for you, your house that you can refer to when choosing what colors to sample.

    Bookmark   November 12, 2009 at 12:05PM
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cosgrovepj

Hi Haley Comet,

Thnks for the quick response in regards to the green paint....I just love it!!!! I have never heard of CIL. Is this just sold in Canada? Is Glidden paint the same as CIL? Does anyone know how I can get CIL paint?

Thanks, Paula

    Bookmark   November 12, 2009 at 9:38PM
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haley_comet

Hi Paula - perhaps it is just in Canada, one of the main stores that sells it is Home Depot. Perhaps they can help you find the formula? Wouldn't hurt to try?

Good luck, that has happened to me loving a BM color to find it is from there US line and not Canada (like why would there be any difference? LOL)

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RoseAbbey

funcolors, thanks for the lesson. Now that I think about it, the color strip I had had colors that went well together but werent the same color.

    Bookmark   November 13, 2009 at 7:50AM
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cosgrovepj

Hi Haley Comet,

Okay, I just made many phonecalls (even to a store in Moncton,New Brunswick). They have no record of cactus park. Do you by chance still have the old paintcan? I just love that green and was wondering if you can send me the formula or if there is a number on the can that the store can then look up in the old paint catalogs. I'd be so appreciative with any help as I can't tell you how long I have been looking for the perfect green. Thanks, Paula

    Bookmark   November 13, 2009 at 7:37PM
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