Paint color

chloenkittyJuly 18, 2014

I am having difficulty finding a paint for the interior of our new build. This color will be on the entire first floor (open floor plan) up the stairs and in the second floor hallway. As you can see by the pics, there are a lot of windows, but no direct sunlight comes in because the home is surrounded by trees. I want something that's grayish tan I guess you would say. Not too gray and not too tan, it too dark, not too light. I put several samples on the wall and sherwin williams popular gray was the one we chose. So, we went back to the house a few hays later and the walls were sprayed with a white primer and the test areas were of course covered. So, I put sw popular gray back up and did not like it! I couldn't believe how different it looked when painted on the primer. It really looked pink. I hate to start from scratch with a bunch of paint samples again. I realize no one can pick the paint for you without being in the home, but I'd love some suggestions to look at particularly in SW because the paint is 40% off and the store is nearby. I'd have to drive a bit to get BM. Floors are a darkish scraped hickory. Thank you

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chloenkitty

Here is the wall to the left of above pic

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:20PM
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chloenkitty

Here is the hardwood. Armstrong American scrape in river house

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:22PM
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tibbrix

Check BM Silver Fox.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:27PM
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peony4

SW Mindful Gray always gets good press, and here it's used in a setting similar to yours.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:34PM
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tibbrix

I take back the Silver Fox suggestion. I suspect that too will look pink as it's similar, only darker, to SW Popular gray.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:41PM
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oldbat2be

chloenkitty - major jealousy here looking at your build pictures; wow, does it EVER look great!

I don't have SW paints for you but am so very happy with the BM Grant Beige we put in the bedroom; 25% on the ceiling. (Oak floors with a little orange, similar to your floor).

Looks like Mindful Grey would be a good fit. Looking forward to seeing your progress pictures. Best, Karen

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:42PM
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chloenkitty

It's amazing how different paint looks once on the wall. I was in love with every pic I saw online of BM Revere Pewter, but on my walls it looked like mud with a green undertone :(

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:45PM
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chispa

I'll cast a second vote for BM Grant Beige. I have used it in most of my house and I'm really happy with it. It took millions of samples and repainting twice to get to that point!

Also like Chloe, Revere Pewter looked terrible in my space.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:57PM
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peony4

Revere Pewter took on a purple hue in my space...

But Chloe mentioned a preference for Sherwin Williams paint, for good reasons, and so maybe more SW suggestions would be helpful. I'm not familiar with SW paints, but there are a few that seem to come up time and again.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 10:18PM
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chispa

I know Chloe said she preferred SW, but here are a lot more BM users here than SW users ... she can always take the BM chip and find a close SW match.

The colors that didn't work for me and had to be repainted were from SW ... I ended up with BM.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:01AM
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louislinus

SW Amazing Gray

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:02AM
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tibbrix

I also didn't care for Revere Pewter when I put it on my wall. It looked like cement to me.

Not going to knock SW overall, but I've used BM all along until I recently repainted my bedroom using SW. I regret it. Wish I'd stayed with BM. Could be just the one color, though, I'm not thrilled with, so who knows.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 7:42AM
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Annie Deighnaugh

Maybe someone else's struggle will be helpful...

Here is a link that might be useful: i am slowly going gray

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 7:48AM
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Annie Deighnaugh

SW Samovar Silver

SW Uncertain Gray

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 7:52AM
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tibbrix

I like that mindful gray peony put up, at least in that photo.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 7:55AM
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Annie Deighnaugh

Here's another article on grays that may help. This one from houzz.com

Here is a link that might be useful: Find the right gray

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 8:00AM
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tibbrix

I'd also look at BM Gray Owl and Moonshine - see on Annie's second link.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 8:06AM
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juliekcmo

It may be lighter than you want, but look at Kestral White. SW

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 9:07AM
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chloenkitty

I do love Ben moore paints and would take the drive to get them if I fell in love with a color, but the ones I've tried so far are just not the one. Can't help but want the 40% off sw paint tho as the BM store said they don't put paint on sale.

As far as the sw mindful gray suggestion, it looks just like what I'm looking for in the pic above, however, on the chip it's darker than what I want.

I like sw agreeable gray but it's too dark.

As far as companies matching other companies colors, does that really work? I actually may have found a valspar color I like at lowes but would use sherwin williams paint. I'm sure they can make a sample, but was wondering from experience if anyone knows if color matching really works.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 4:46PM
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Linelle

Why can't you have SW mix up a BM color?

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:18PM
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chloenkitty

I could Linelle, it's just that the BM colors I did try, I didn't like.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:24PM
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tibbrix

Chloe, do you want a cool color or a warm one?

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:28PM
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tibbrix

Warm: SW Simple White, or the next on the strip, Alpaca?

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:31PM
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raee_gw

My experience with my local SW store is that they are excellent at matching colors from other brands (and once,even another brand that I had fiddled with the can adding a bit of this and a touch of that).

Also, although the original gray that you had picked may show some pink undertones when next to the primer, remember that a lot of primers are not pure white either, and once the whole wall is painted that undertone may disappear. Do you have enough sample to paint a very large section of wall, enough to see it without much influence from adjacent primer?

Lastly, if you like a color but it is just too dark, the store can mix it in half strength or even 3/4 strength to produce a paler version of the color.

My only suggestion for gray is 'Campfire Ash' (Behr) which was my first choice for my cabinets. The cabinetmaker couldn't match that, so we ended up with Martha Stewart 'Gull' which I is more beige than you want I think.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 5:46PM
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peony4

Chloe, you can certainly color-match colors from other lines of paint to a SW paint base. I've done this many times over the years. The problem is when you walk into the SW store and say, "I want BM XYZ color..." SW simply looks it up on their computer, and the resulting SW XYZ will *not* match the original BM XYZ. This is what most who suggest color-matching don't understand. While you'd probably get more professional advice over in the Paint forum, here's what I suggest:

Each paint company's "base" paint, to which they add the color pigments, varies. So, the Valspar base is different from the BM base is different from the SW base, etc. This variance tends to be highlighted especially when using lighter colors, when even a slight variance in the base paint can impact the final color.

Each paint company has access to other paint company's color formulas (their magical computer systems). So, SW can pull a BM color or your Valspar color formula and mix it in the SW paint base. But if the SW paint base differs from the BM or Valspar paint base, the final color will vary from what you originally wanted. So, what you may like about the Valspar color in the Valspar base may differ slightly from the Valspar color in the SW base.

The solution to this is to get a sample of the actual paint color itself (like, your Valspar color mixed from Lowes), and ask SW to *scan* the color to color-match it. I don't know the precise terminology here, but what you don't want to do is give SW the paint name to look up in their computer... Instead, bring a sample of the actual paint itself (no names--no manufacturer), and ask SW to color-match it. This way, they will color-match it to their SW base.

This is a layman's explanation, so perhaps check out the Paint forum to see if they have suggestions.

This post was edited by peony4 on Sun, Jul 20, 14 at 0:46

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 12:12AM
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sweet_tea_

Which direction do your windows face, N-S-E- or W? Do you have low e windows or clear glass? Really that makes a difference on how the paint looks as well.

I just went through this picking colors for our new build and I'm using SW colors. So without knowing the details, I'd say to check out the chips for SW Agreeable Gray, SW Worldly Gray and SW Alpaca.

Beautiful windows btw. Good Luck!

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 11:00AM
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chloenkitty

Sweet tea I tried all of those and they were either too pink or dark on my walls. hOWEVER, I think I have finally made a decision! There were 20 samples on the wall and I am going with sherwin williams egret white. Never thought I'd pick a color with the name white in it. It looked good on all the walls I put it on thank goodness. It looked light gray with a little tan in it and did not seem to show any pink or yellow. I never even heard of this color before (but that means nothing since there are thousands of colors lol) I just pray I like it when it is all over the walls. My floors are on the darker side so the contrast should be nice.

I know all monitors look different, but it's the largest swatch.

Thank you all for your suggestions and keep your fingers crossed for me!

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 5:45PM
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chispa

Chloe, glad you found a color. Just be prepared that once painted on all your walls it will probably be a barely-there-color ... it seems darker now because you are comparing it to the white primer.

At this point, to be sure, I would buy a quart of real paint (not sample pot) in this color and paint as large a section as possible with 2 coats of paint. Preferably a small wall that goes trim-to-trim, so that it isn't next to primer. If you are still happy at that point, then you have found your color. Easy!

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 5:55PM
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chloenkitty

Is this true? Is there going to be hardly any color????? I painted almost half of one wall with 2 coats and liked it and it had plenty. That sample pic I showed above is pretty large too, it's about 2ft x 2ft. I don't want real dark walls anyway because we don't get any direct sunlight in the house and the floors are dark. Now I'm going to be second guessing my choice after all this time and over 20 samples darnit :(

This post was edited by chloenkitty on Sun, Jul 20, 14 at 21:38

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 9:08PM
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chispa

I'm just going by my experience. In my house I was down to 2 colors, BM Edgecomb Gray and Grant Beige. The samples of GB seemed so much darker than the EG. I went for GB and once it was all painted it was not a dark color at all. It worked out so well that I have used it in nearly all the rooms. But I wasn't looking for a barely there color ... the previous owners had that already. Things look much different on our monitors, so if you slept on it and still loved it the following morning then you should be confident in your choice. Yeah, I know, easier said than done!

    Bookmark   July 21, 2014 at 12:07AM
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