OK to thin primer when using paint sprayer?

babalu_ayeFebruary 17, 2007

Today I began trying to prime the exterior of my house with Kilz water based primer/sealer using a Wagner PowerPainter Pro sprayer. For the first 15 minutes it worked great, but then the performance went downhill fast. The spray tip began to clog up and after about 1/2 hour I had to stop. The troubleshooting tips for the sprayer say that the symptoms I saw were the result of the paint being too thick. Does anybody have any idea whether it is ok to thin Kilz primer with some water? If so, how much?

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mightyanvil

The company says:
"Best results for stain blocking are obtained with no thinning. However, KILZ 2 Latex primer and KILZ Premium primer may be thinned up to 10% per gallon with water."

Also, this subject is usually covered by the instructions on the can.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2007 at 5:47PM
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babalu_aye

Well, I tried thinning it today about 1 cup water to a gallon of primer and the sprayer still plugged up after about 5 minutes of use. Very frustrating because in that 5 minutes I was able to cover an area equal to what it took two hours to do later with a roller and brush.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2007 at 5:58PM
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mightyanvil

Spray painting is for professionals where time is money. Stick with the roller and get it done.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2007 at 8:00PM
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babalu_aye

I really don't want to dedicate every weekend for the next six months to painting the exterior of the house. I was hoping to use the sprayer to get some quick coverage with the primer and then use roller/brush for doing the actual painting.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2007 at 9:40PM
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troubleseekeral

Do you have the right sized tip installed? Sounds like you may be using too small an orifice for a heavy bodied latex primer. I am not familiar with this particular sprayer, but don't have much expectations from anything with the words "Wagner Power Painter" in its name. Go to a local paint store like Sherwin Williams or Benjamin Moore that deals with professionals, and rent an airless for about 50 to 60 dollars for a day. As for the stain blocking, don't get your hopes too high for these latex primers to block much of anything.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2007 at 10:13PM
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HandyMac

Yup, renting the correct pro model will allow you to paint much faster and better.

I tried it with a Wagner PP---the thing it did best was put my hand to sleep from all the vibration. Borrowed a pro airless sprayer from a friend and did a 2 story 3 bed 2 car garage split entry with a hip roof in less than a day.

    Bookmark   February 18, 2007 at 10:38PM
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russmahogany

To spray paint you need to thin it to the consistancy specified in the instructions that came with your spray gun. This is commor pratice, whatever the can says. Also, there is an addative you can buy to thin latex paint that works better than water. I don't want to walk out to my garage to get the name. but you can just ask at the paint store and they will, or should, know. Just make sure you get the one for latex and not the one for oil base.

    Bookmark   February 25, 2007 at 5:25AM
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brickeyee

Use Floetrol instead of water for thinning, but you would be better served by renting a pro unit. Go a a full service paint store and talk to them. You may be able to get a pro unit on weekendds for a good rate.
All you have to handle then are the gun and the hose, and the tip size can be adjusted to elininate thinning in most cases.
Thinning primer is just a bad choice, almost as bad as thinning the paint intself (sometimes unavoidable but not often). I see a lot of paint being thinned to avoid having to get the correct tip ($$ and a trip to the store if forgotten).
Primer especially should be back brushed (or rolled) to make sure you have a solid coat and good adhesion.

    Bookmark   February 25, 2007 at 11:54AM
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wmurphiii_gmail_com

Kilz2 does not have any thinning instructions on the can

    Bookmark   May 16, 2011 at 5:41AM
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Srx72_yahoo_com

I had the exact same experience with identical products. Except, however, I thinned with 8oz water per gallon of Kilz AND used Wagner thinner for latex.

No luck, but for the first 15 minutes worked great. I thoroughly cleaned all parts and retried. Works for a few minutes at best. The ONLY thing I did not do was re-lubricate interior parts. I recall a very strong order of oil which I believe made a huge difference. Will repeat, but so far not sure if Optimus PP by Wagner was the right choice.

I will update if I can resolve this issue. Otherwise, the Wagner Power Painter Plus deserves to be off the market!

    Bookmark   July 6, 2011 at 12:34AM
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