Clever cats and retractable screens on french doors

jpollcrawJuly 14, 2013

We are moving into a new home in the city and are planning to replace the sliders to our patio with double, outward opening french doors. The problem is the cats. We have Phantom retractable screens now, thinking we'd keep the cats as indoor cats. Luckily we live in the country, because on about week 2 they figured out how to snake under the screen without releasing the magnetic closer.

Does anyone have framed screens (the cats don't climb the window screens very much but they aren't even phased by the taut screening on the bottom of the Phantom) on their outward opening screens?

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Sophie Wheeler

Create a catio for them with their own entry point from a window or cat door. When they have a safe enclosed area to go outside, they are far less likely to attempt to mastermind their way through the people entrance.

    Bookmark   July 14, 2013 at 6:59PM
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annzgw

You may want to just keep the sliders and add screens if you want the cats to stay inside. I have Pella sliders with a screen that's on the interior side of the sliding door and I consider it perfect for use with pets. It can be latched/locked so there's no chance my cat can get outside.

Since your cats are indoor/outdoor now, consider doing what holly mentioned. My cat has a cat door in the BR that opens to a wire tunnel. The tunnel then leads to a 10', six ft. high kennel that sits in the corner of the deck. Makes for a happy cat..........

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 12:25PM
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jpollcraw

Thanks all. I think the catio will be the best option since I'm fixated on losing the sliding doors. Now I just need to figure out where to put it and how big it should be. Hopefully, this solution will satisfy the kids.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 3:56PM
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annzgw

I would still look into a framed screen since your cats are going to look for any and all exits.
Even my cat will sometimes hide near the door and then try to dash out behind my dog. A squirt with a water bottle usually reminds her not to hang out around the doors. : )
What she loves to do when we go out the sliding doors is run to her cat door and try to beat us outside. Have to say that having a covered deck made setting up her outdoor area much easier...........

    Bookmark   July 15, 2013 at 9:01PM
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tinan

Definitely get framed screens. Even with a catio, cats will try to investigate where they should not be... and as someone who grew up in the country and had 2 cats hit by cars despite living on a country road set far back from it, I can say cats are no safer outdoors in the country than in the city.

You could perhaps get swing-out framed screens like a screen door on a front door?

    Bookmark   July 16, 2013 at 12:08AM
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jpollcraw

Swing out framed screens with swing out french doors? I'd love to see how that works. It seems that it would be the best solution but I've never seen both out swing doors and screens. Anybody?

    Bookmark   July 16, 2013 at 12:56AM
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millworkman

Nope can't have both outswing. Inside hinged are available but it defeats the purpose of the outswing and eliminating the space required for the panels to swing in.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2013 at 9:14AM
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tinan

Sure you can have swinging screen with french doors - I have seen them. Here are some examples (link) for sliding or swing.

Here is a link that might be useful: Screens with french doors

    Bookmark   July 18, 2013 at 12:22AM
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jpollcraw

Thanks, Millworkman. Just as I thought.

Tinan; the issue in question is inswing vs outswing. One set must swing inward and the other outward.

Thanks to all!

    Bookmark   July 21, 2013 at 11:41PM
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