attn: Jakuvall or anyone- Please help, inset drawer framing ?
Hoping someone knows the answer to this. I have read the 'everything you want to know about drawers' thread a couple times and mucho internet searching, but still have some questions that I hope someone can answer for me.
I'm strongly considering going with the Amish folks that made Badgergals cabs, but alas, no frameless= loss of space. I was thinking that as long as I'd be going framed, I might as well go inset which I love the look of, but: how can inset be tweaked to get as much space as possible?
Can anyone advise if my thoughts are correct/incorrect?
1. Either drop the toekick to 3" high (or no toekick?) allowing for more vertical room. Would this offset the height lost to the undermount glides?
2. Lose the intermediate rails, except for the one under the top drawer. Guessing this would mean that all top drawers would be the same height or look wonky?
3.Ask the cab maker to shave the frame frame down to... what? The cabs I have now have 2" face frames! My 17" wide cab has 12" usable drawer space. I think that is crappy, so how small or narrow I guess is the right word can the face frame pieces be and still be strong and not look toothpicky?
4. Would it be better to have lower (or no) toekicks and the corresponding deeper drawer height or have standard tk's and get tk drawers? I can think of one perfect use for a tk drawer but if I could drop all the tk's and get more depth on each base, that might offset the one perfect use for one tk drawer.
Am I trying to get 10# out of a 5# bag here or is it possible to squeeze a bit more out of inset? Is there another way that I haven't thought of?
final question: would framed full overlay help with gaining inches vs. inset or is that nonsense?
The 8 base cabs save for three will be drawers so I really need to get every inch that I can. Sizes are: 37, 18, 36 LS, 18, 30 (sink), 24 (top is DWD, bottom will be whatever is left over for a drawer) and a 30". Drawer heights/config TBD.
I'll also have a 27" w x 15 d base cab with doors for appliances and a 60" x 12" x 84" pantry for food and other storage. Plus mondo open shelves and two uppers.
I am still going to get an estimate from Shiloh on frameless but my gut tells me that the Amish place will be significantly less $$ which does matter at some price point that I haven't figured out yet. 1k might not matter, 3k probably will.
Drawers are giving me a headache so I'd really appreciate any help, advice, etc. Thank you.